was 9/11 a conspiracy?

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#1 verparanoidpers
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if you do think that it was a conspiracy by the government, please, turn on the history channel RIGHT NAO!!
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#2 LJS9502_basic
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A terrorist conspiracy...yes.
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#3 tomxizor
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Whoever thinks that 9/11 was a conspiracy needs to be shot. :|
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#4 GamerPro1984
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hehe I see what hes watching in the background. There are so many diffeent conspiracy theories about 9/11. They'll go on for years and years im sure.
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Whoever thinks that 9/11 was a conspiracy needs to be shot. :|tomxizor

I has bulletproof vest.

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#6 _Marisa_
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Yes, it was.
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#7 Flange_Meister
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It was the US wake up call an they did .. they cannot act as the big bat .....

I would die inside..........(news ....US Armed forces moved to *help* this country )

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#8 tmac200913
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i dont know
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#9 Lord_Daemon
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From what I've witnessed I find no evidence of a conspiracy so I don't believe there to be one associated to that specific event at this particular time.
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#10 Abigorus
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Could be.
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#11 LJS9502_basic
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From what I've witnessed I find no evidence of a conspiracy so I don't believe there to be one associated to that specific event at this particular time. Lord_Daemon

Generally, if more than one person is involved....it's a conspiracy.;)

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#12 fizzlegloop
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No it was not a conspiracy and ill tell you why.

People mainly think that its a conspiracy because of the building coming straight down. And since most people see demolitions and they know that the building comes straight down and so they think that there was dynamite in the building before the jets hit.

There was no dynamite in the building at all and it was not a conspiracy because the jet that crashed into the building took off from only 150 miles away and because of that there was a lot of jet fuel. Also the building is made of steel when steel melts it goes straight down also and was melted by the fuel and the fire therefore its not a plot

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#13 GamerPro1984
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Some of the theories at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

Some are so out there , and some, if you pretend they're not crazy sound possible.

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#14 Flange_Meister
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was not in that cave .. lol
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#16 -Karmum-
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9/11 was an act of terrorism, so technically no. If it was a "conspiracy", it was still an act of terrorism. But it wasn't.

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#17 QuebecSuperstar
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Whoever thinks that 9/11 was a conspiracy needs to be shot. :|tomxizor

Whoever accepts whatever their government tells them without questioning doesn't deserve to vote.

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#18 paradigm68
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no 9/11 is not a conspiracy

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#19 GamerPro1984
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Good thing only killed dumb Yanks....lol Flange_Meister

WTF?

Thats like me saying The Metro bomb, good thing only killed dumb brits.... Get a life dude

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#20 PS2_ROCKS
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Well I'm still wondering is how tower 7 came down and where all those explosion noises came from. It's up in the air really. I'm not sure if it was planned or not but if I had to choose I'd say that yeah, it was.
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#21 TrailorParkBoy
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It's obvious some thing fishy happened that day, we will probable never know what really happened though.
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#22 Ezgam3r
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If by conspiracy, you mean that terrorists wanted to fly planes into the Twin Towers, Pentagon and possibly the White House to try to screw us over, then yes.

If you mean all the BS CTers like to spew, then no.

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#23 LoG-Sacrament
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this thread will be awesome.
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#24 mark4091
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Could be.Abigorus

Possibly yes...... a few things involved are far fetched, but then again why bush would kill innocent americans is also far fetched so atm I don't think it is.

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#25 limpbizkit818
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No, not at all. Why are we still talking about this.......
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#26 GIJesse77
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yes, the germans actually did it.
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#27 reddevilyi
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Any idiot can tell you a train hit the twin towers. Just ask Dick "Smoke Stack" Cheney.
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#28 tylerules1990
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[QUOTE="tomxizor"]Whoever thinks that 9/11 was a conspiracy needs to be shot. :|makaveli2344

I has bulletproof vest.

For your face?

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#29 ct1257860
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lol weird i figured this would be on the OT
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#30 Sprozelth
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They were running a test with a plane being flown into a building and then it happen for real. Same thing happen with the london bus bombing.
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#31 MichaeltheCM
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no it was not a conspiracy. it was a terrorist attack
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#32 GarchomPro
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If your asking if i think the US government had anything to do with 9/11, then i say yes
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#33 ninjacat11
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No.
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#34 artichoke
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My personal opinion which I know all of you have been dying to hear is that I'm not sure. There's lots of fishy stuff about it that make me wonder but not enough to declare outright that the president was behind it. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be true. I wouldn't put it past our president to kill innocent american's for his personal gain.
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#35 nuclear_cookout
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Lol, I can't believe some of you believe that it was, and yet I can because those "truthers" like to make things sound convincing.

Here is why the gov't was not behind 9/11:

If the gov't was behind 9/11, in order for us to attack Iraq, they'd have continued other attacks in order to keep the war popular.

More and more people are hating Bush, even people in his own party. Why can't he just attack another place to boost the war's popularity?

If Bush was after world conquest, they'd have already taken over Iraq and other countries. (just in case any of you think he is)

Why didn't NORAD fulfill its standard operating procedure and intercept the planes? They didn't see it coming. It was a big shock to everyone. The planes hit before they could do anything.

How could the pilots or passengers or even the Pentagon have known what the hijackers were thinking? They didn't. It had never happened before. There was no precedence for it.

There's probably more that I've not thought about, but w/e.

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#36 YeahYes
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Yes
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#37 lionheart1981oz
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i like you, yes.
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#38 Sajo7
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Short answer: No

Long answer: No

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#39 Kiss_Goodnight
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9/11 was not a conspiracy however you have to admit the goverment knew they could benefit from this tragedy.
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#40 Basic_Instinct
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I 100% support this conspiracy. After doing a lot of researching, this so called "terrorist attack" has too many "coincidences" and too much planning involved that nobody besides our government could execute. I am just not one to take whatever the government says as fact. People can say whatever they want about conspiracy theorists, but when the facts come, the so called "experts" only give a few blurry answers and claim that the debunked the conspiracies.
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#41 chrisrooR
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9/11 was sort of a modern 'pearl harbour' :| , basically a massive wake up call.

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#42 nuclear_cookout
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I 100% support this conspiracy. After doing a lot of researching, this so called "terrorist attack" has too many "coincidences" and too much planning involved that nobody besides our government could execute. I am just not one to take whatever the government says as fact. People can say whatever they want about conspiracy theorists, but when the facts come, the so called "experts" only give a few blurry answers and claim that the debunked the conspiracies.Basic_Instinct
Read my above post, please.

And I'm not one to take everything the gov't says as fact, in case you were wondering. I've seen their lies, but I certainly don't believe this is.
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#43 ss_713
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=pqKBnKlDYdw

I find it hard to believe that 9/11 was planned and carried out by a billionaire caveman somewhere in Afghanistan.

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#44 nuclear_cookout
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It doesn't take a genius to send some men over, have them trained as pilots, and tell them to fly a plane into a building.
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#45 MarkSmith
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Yes.

It was a conspiracy by Al Qaeda operatives to take down the Twin Towers.

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#46 g-unit248
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no, though their are some awkward coincidences
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#47 GarchomPro
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Would America been in Iraq if it wernt for 9/11? No, would they able to invade any part of the middle east without 9/11? No. Do they want to invade Iran? Yes. 9/11 is just an excuse to get into the middle east without it being called an invasion, now its a fight for peace. You gota look at the big picture here, even if the government didnt play a huge role in 9/11 it was definetly a great day for Bush. Hes getting what he wants and has the american people backing him. Whats this supposed "war" really all about? a group of suicide bombers? No, its about Iran and having controle over natural resources which are becoming more scarce as the world uses them up. Thats my point of view, im not gonna argue. If ther ever comes a WW III expect it to be between Iran and US.
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#48 ss_713
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It doesn't take a genius to send some men over, have them trained as pilots, and tell them to fly a plane into a building.nuclear_cookout

None of the four airplanes were intercepted by fighter jets. But NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) intercepts planes all the time, according to a NORAD spokesman. If they hear about it in time, anyway. It's strange how NORAD didn't hear about any of the four planes until it was too late. On September 15, 2001, the Boston Globe reported. Marine Corp Major Mike Snyder, spokesman for NORAD, as saying, "We scramble aircraft to respond to any aircraft that we consider a potential threat. The hijacked aircraft were normal, scheduled commercial aircraft on approved flight plans and we only had 10 minutes prior notice to the first attack, which unfortunately was not enough notice." So they scramble hundreds of times per year (Popular Mechanics is dead wrong in their claim that this never happens), and they missed four times in one day.

Follow the money. Ask yourself: who stood to gain? Who had the motive, means, and opportunity? Al Qaeda? Motive and opportunity, perhaps, but not the means to bring down the largest buildings in the world. Even jet planes can't do that-the towers were built to withstand multiple collisions with Boeing 707 jets. Coincidentally (?) a report written by Bush advisers over 10 years ago for the infamous Project for a New American Century seems to recommend a national disaster as a way to advance its militant agenda: "[T]he process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event-like a new Pearl Harbor." [page 51, emphasis mine]

Immediately before September 11, some unidentified investors shorted the stock of United Airlines and American Airlines. The person or persons have never been identified (and no one seems to know why). Snopes.com, the famous urban legend debunking site, reports the details of these transactions. Snopes goes on to (curiously) conclude that this was pure coincidence, based on a US government organization's assertions. Despite the facts like these:

But it was during the final few trading days (the market closes on weekends) that the most unusual variances in activity occurred. Bloomberg data showed that on 6 September 2001, the Thursday before that black Tuesday, put-option volume in UAL stock was nearly 100 times higher than normal: 2,000 options versus 27 on the previous day.

On 6 and 7 September 2001, the Chicago Board Options Exchange handled 4,744 put options for United Airlines' stock, translating into 474,000 shares, compared with just 396 call options, or 39,600 shares. On a day that the put-to-call ratio would normally have been expected to be roughly 1:1 (no negative news stories about United had broken), it was instead 12:1.

On 10 September 2001, another uneventful news day, American Airlines' option volume was 4,516 puts and 748 calls, a ratio of 6:1 on yet another day when by rights these options should have been trading even. No other airline stocks were affected; only United and American were shorted in this fashion.

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#49 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Anyone who honestly belives 9-11 was a conspiracy is either :

1. An idiot

2.Uneducated

3. Unamerican

Or a combination of all 3

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#50 nuclear_cookout
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Again, here is some logic on how the gov't didn't do it:

If the gov't was behind 9/11, in order for us to attack Iraq, they'd have continued other attacks in order to keep the war popular.

More and more people are hating Bush, even people in his own party. Why can't he just attack another place to boost the war's popularity?

If Bush was after world conquest, they'd have already taken over Iraq and other countries. (just in case any of you think he is)

Why didn't NORAD fulfill its standard operating procedure and intercept the planes? They didn't see it coming. It was a big shock to everyone. The planes hit before they could do anything.

How could the pilots or passengers or even the Pentagon have known what the hijackers were thinking? They didn't. It had never happened before. There was no precedence for it.nuclear_cookout