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#1 pero2008
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Is it hard to learn? Because I have to take a class called Basic Programming and I have to learn that

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#2 mattbbpl
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Is it Visual Basic or QBasic? Either way, it's not hard.Both arejust a step above pseudo code :P

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#3 pero2008
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The book is Visual Basic 6 I dunno if thats the edition of the book or what

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#4 mattbbpl
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Also, I'm assuming it's Visual Basic .Net? Visual Basic Classic is all but dead for everything but maintaining legacy applications.
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#5 mattbbpl
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The book is Visual Basic 6 I dunno if thats the edition of the book or what

pero2008

Oh man. They're seriously still teaching Visual Basic Classic as an introductory programming class? Sigh....

Don't sweat it. It's not hard, the class is just borderline worthless.

Edit: Microsoft doesn't even SUPPORT the language anymore. Support for it ended over 3 years ago, and it's last major update was 10 years prior to that.

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#6 Vancelvany
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It's difficult, speaking from experience. I'm not gifted in programming so I found this difficult. :(

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#7 dbz345
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Visual Basic isn't very hard to learn, it's one of the easier programming languages to learn from my experience. It does baffle me though why for both you and me, our professors insisted on us using a Visual Basic 6 book. Especially considering in reality, I actually learned Visual Basic .Net.
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#8 mattbbpl
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Visual Basic isn't very hard to learn, it's one of the easier programming languages to learn from my experience. It does baffle me though why for both you and me, our professors insisted on us using a Visual Basic 6 book. Especially considering in reality, I actually learned Visual Basic .Net.dbz345
They don't even share the same framework or methodologies!
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#9 194197844077667059316682358889
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It's a shame they are touching a course in Visual Basic instead of, you know, a programming language.
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#10 mattbbpl
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It's a shame they are touching a course in Visual Basic instead of, you know, a programming language.xaos
Ouch, xaos... Coming from a VB .NET/C# house, that cuts me to the quick :P
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#11 dbz345
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[QUOTE="dbz345"]Visual Basic isn't very hard to learn, it's one of the easier programming languages to learn from my experience. It does baffle me though why for both you and me, our professors insisted on us using a Visual Basic 6 book. Especially considering in reality, I actually learned Visual Basic .Net.mattbbpl
They don't even share the same framework or methodologies!

Hence why I never even touched my Visual Basic 6 book while I took the class. Utter waste of money, and a pain to find considering its age.
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[QUOTE="xaos"]It's a shame they are touching a course in Visual Basic instead of, you know, a programming language.mattbbpl
Ouch, xaos... Coming from a VB .NET/C# house, that cuts me to the quick :P

I've worked in C# and have no big issues with it, but VB is (I'm sorry) one of the most inelegant, kludge-ridden languages I've ever encountered
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#14 pero2008
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I only have to take two COmputer Science and Information Systems classes one being this visual basic and another is computer information/systems which I heard is really easy

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#15 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="xaos"]It's a shame they are touching a course in Visual Basic instead of, you know, a programming language.xaos
Ouch, xaos... Coming from a VB .NET/C# house, that cuts me to the quick :P

I've worked in C# and have no big issues with it, but VB is (I'm sorry) one of the most inelegant, kludge-ridden languages I've ever encountered

It's,definitely inelegant, but it all gets pre-compiled down to MSIL in the end (aside from the "unsafe" blocks in C#, obviously). What can be done in one can be done in the other even if the syntax is awkward (and it is).
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#16 cd_rom
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There honestly should be a law against teaching any form of BASIC. No, VB isn't hard to learn. No, VB is not useful.
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#17 TehFuneral
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There honestly should be a law against teaching any form of BASIC. No, VB isn't hard to learn. No, VB is not useful.cd_rom

I concur.

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#18 markop2003
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[QUOTE="pero2008"]

The book is Visual Basic 6 I dunno if thats the edition of the book or what

mattbbpl

Oh man. They're seriously still teaching Visual Basic Classic as an introductory programming class? Sigh....

Don't sweat it. It's not hard, the class is just borderline worthless.

They did the same when i was in sixth form last year, though personally i chose to use .net 08 instead. The one problem with VB.net i've found and VB to an extent is that you become incredibly reliant on the IDE so most of the problems come from trying to coerce the IDE to let you do what you want rather than the language itself.
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#19 slamminjammin69
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I feel sorry for people in college who hae to be forced to take C++ or Basic Programming. I hated that class when I was in college back in 1998. I didn't know a damn thing about basic programming

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#20 PEELEDbanana
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I remember taking a programming class with QBasic. Biggest waste of my time ever. Seriously wish I didn't have to take it and just started with C or Java.

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#21 Diablo-B
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I took it. Its straight forward, simple, and fun. Not as powerful and C++ or Java, but more fun.
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#22 deactivated-5c37d3adcd094
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It's not hard. Similarly, it's not useful.
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#23 pero2008
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Ok, but basically this class is a waste since Visual Basic isn't used anymore?

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#25 gameguy6700
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That's dumb that your college is teaching their intro programming course with visual basic. It's an obsolete language and even when it was supported it was worthless. Are there any other intro programming courses being taught at your school that use other languages? Most colleges will use Python or Java in their courses which are actually useful. Speaking of which, I'd recommend Python if you're willing to do some self-study. I'm teaching it to myself right now and I'm finding it pretty straightforward for the most part. It also helps that it's very readable thanks to a lack of punctuation characters. And as another plus, you don't have to compile it to test it. You can run it straight from the editor. Both of those are big advantages over Java which, in contrast, is a much more convoluted language to learn (although from what I hear Java is more useful).
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#27 pero2008
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I'm sure there are other intro programming courses at my college but this class is mandatory for my major.
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#29 pero2008
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Yeah, my major is Management Information Systems and I have to take Visual Basic and Computer Information/Systems which is the understanding of computers, hardware/software, and the impact information technology has on society etc.
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#30 Xeros606
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It's a shame they are touching a course in Visual Basic instead of, you know, a programming language.xaos
Was about to say something similar. :P
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It's pretty easy to understand and work with. Visual Studio writes most of the code for you.
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#32 UltimoIce
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Is it hard to learn? Because I have to take a class called Basic Programming and I have to learn that

pero2008

VB.NET is easier to learn than C#, and just as effective, despite what the C++ leftovers from the '90s will tell you. I work with both C# and VB in my profession, and VB is five times quicker to write.