Villains who were in the right

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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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Aside from the obvious Watchman example, any other villains come to mind who were justified?

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I was watching "Hope And Fear" and it this fellow (Arturis) was completely justified in wanting them all dead.

> First couple of seasons Janeway refuses to share technology with the Kazon, against Federation values/rules

> Season 3/4 (Scorpion I/II) blackmails Borg with weapon of mass destruction to get through their space safely

> Dudes planet and everyone on it turned to drones as a result

> Janeway shrugs and claims species 8472 was "moar badder", get over it brah

> Arturis makes fake ass ship that they think will get them home faster, but will actually take them to his home planet

Rewatching this, she's kind of an asshole and poor old Arturis was totally justified in wanting her head on a pike.

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#2  Edited By madrocketeer
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This thread is kind of YMMV, you know?

I mean, for example, I'm a misanthrope, so I naturally always get a certain degree of sympathy for any villain who seeks to give humanity a well-deserved kick up the arse.

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#3 SOedipus
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Thanos for obvious reasons.

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@SOedipus said:

Thanos for obvious reasons.

Damn it, you beat me to it. Yes, the logical answer is Thanos, nothing comes closer he was in the right.

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Tha one guy from metal gear rising revengence

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Cobra Commander and Megatron from the original 80's toons.

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@SOedipus: I would say Thanos had a point, but not that he was in the right. His solution wouldn't even solve the problem, just delay it. Plus, his vision got myopic. The stones theoretically gave him the power of a god, but all he did was enact his temporary solution more quickly. He should have come up with a more permanent fix, like increasing infertility rates so populations stop growing and stay stable.

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@judaspete said:

@SOedipus: I would say Thanos had a point, but not that he was in the right. His solution wouldn't even solve the problem, just delay it. Plus, his vision got myopic. The stones theoretically gave him the power of a god, but all he did was enact his temporary solution more quickly. He should have come up with a more permanent fix, like increasing infertility rates so populations stop growing and stay stable.

Yeah, I don't understand the obsession with Thanos being "right". He wiped out literally 50% of ALL LIFE in the universe for no reason other than "they consume too much". Plenty of other comic villains have a twisted sense of "saving people from themselves" by utilizing violence against them.

If we are talking about "good" villains, and sticking with the comic theme, we should go with Magneto and Venom, and if we are going to get really vague about "right" then throw in Galactus as well (he's only a "villain" because he eats entire planets for food).

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@foxhound_fox: @judaspete:

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#11  Edited By Jag85
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Ones that come to mind:

  • Erik Killmonger (Black Panther)
  • Anti-Spiral (Gurren Lagann)
  • Johnny Lawrence (The Karate Kid)
  • Scar (Fullmetal Alchemist)
  • Magneto (X-Men)
  • Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
  • John Cawley (Shutter Island)
  • Tetsuo Shima (Akira)
  • Vegeta (Dragon Ball)
  • Hody Jones (One Piece)
  • Char Aznable (Gundam)
  • Solidus Snake (Metal Gear Solid 2)

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@davillain- said:
@SOedipus said:

Thanos for obvious reasons.

Damn it, you beat me to it. Yes, the logical answer is Thanos, nothing comes closer he was in the right.

So, two things. First, the directors confirmed that Thanos wiped out half of all plant life as well, leaving people with the exact same amount of food basically keeping the status quo.

Second, and I always point this out, Thanos could have doubled the resources, hurting no one, and everyone would have been on his side.

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Did anyone see that awful Jungle Book remake a few years ago? Mowgli essentially proved Shere Khan right by essentially burning down half of the jungle.

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#14  Edited By warmblur
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Pagan Min Far Cry 4.

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Walter White.

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Injustice Superman kinda make sense. The superhero world method of catching bad guys, throwing them to arkham or something doesn't work, metropolis even got nuked due to batman being damn lenient on joker. so superman decides to becomes a tyrant and facist to ensure world order. Maybe a higher power is needed for these thing and he is godlike.

Though superhero cliche he had to be ultra facist but it worked for a while.

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#17  Edited By Byshop  Moderator
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@warmblur said:

Pagan Min Far Cry 4.

Yup, those crab rangoon sure were tasty.

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I rewatched Blade Runner yesterday so I would add Roy Batty. He murdered a bunch of people so it's not easy to sympathize with him but at the end of the day, he just wanted to live.

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The nation of 01 in Animatrix prequel shorts The Second Renaissance I & II, the AI were pushed into a corner and man's biological enslavement came about from the actions they took to destroy them.