U.S. House of Representatives votes 245 - 189 to repeal Obama healthcare law!!!

Yes, it still has to pass the Senate, and yes, Obama won't sign a repeal, and yes, there won't be enough to votes to override his veto, but this is FANTASTIC news! It looks like our country is headed back the way it should be, rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years. Great news; I hope the backlash against Barack Obama's willfully ignorant and destructive agenda continues to grow.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47831.html

It looks like our country is headed back the way it should be, rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years.

Communistik

Because the 8 years before that were just so dandy.

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

It looks like our country is headed back the way it should be, rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years.

metroidfood

Because the 8 years before that were just so dandy.

I am glad that they passed it in the House, I hope the Senate will pass it too and Obama will be smart and sign it. CMFreezy

Awesome, the House wasted everyone's time voting on a bill that everyone knows will never become law.

I'm glad that the Republicans are focusing on the economy like they always implored the Democrats to do.

Now its time to strip it of all its funding and force there to be charges. I am glad to see they are keeping their word so far.

rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years.Communistik

I had no idea the health care bill has even been around that long... feels like just last year, for some reason.

Awesome, the House wasted everyone's time voting on a bill that everyone knows will never become law.

I'm glad that the Republicans are focusing on the economy like they always implored the Democrats to do.

GabuEx

Yes. The American healthcare system and the American economy are completely unrelated.

Well at least they held up on their promise of trying. Not going to get past Obama but its a worthy effort. Now hopefully Republicans can work on getting the spending under control.TheColbert

Spending under control? This is the republican party you're talking about. They haven't been fiscially responsible since the mid1900's.

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

It looks like our country is headed back the way it should be, rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years.

metroidfood

Because the 8 years before that were just so dandy.

Well it could be worse. A step in the better direction is an improvement.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Awesome, the House wasted everyone's time voting on a bill that everyone knows will never become law.

I'm glad that the Republicans are focusing on the economy like they always implored the Democrats to do.

Communistik

Yes. The American healthcare system and the American economy are completely unrelated.

Well they sure sounded like they were when the Republicans were telling the Democrats to stop bothering with health care reform and to focus on the economy instead. :o

[QUOTE="TheColbert"]Well at least they held up on their promise of trying. Not going to get past Obama but its a worthy effort. Now hopefully Republicans can work on getting the spending under control.Former_Slacker

Spending under control? This is the republican party you're talking about. They haven't been fiscially responsible since the mid1900's.

Yes, it still has to pass the Senate, and yes, Obama won't sign a repeal, and yes, there won't be enough to votes to override his veto, but this is FANTASTIC news! It looks like our country is headed back the way it should be, rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years. Great news; I hope the backlash against Barack Obama's willfully ignorant and destructive agenda continues to grow.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47831.html

Communistik

Just how exactly is Obama's agenda "destructive"? Do you have any evidence to back up that statement or your statement about being "willfully ignorant"?

It's mostly symbolic, but they promised to vote to repeal it during the campaign, and it's nice to see politicians keep their word once in a while.

Yes, it still has to pass the Senate, and yes, Obama won't sign a repeal, and yes, there won't be enough to votes to override his veto, but this is FANTASTIC news! It looks like our country is headed back the way it should be, rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years. Great news; I hope the backlash against Barack Obama's willfully ignorant and destructive agenda continues to grow.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47831.html

Communistik

[QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]

[QUOTE="TheColbert"]Well at least they held up on their promise of trying. Not going to get past Obama but its a worthy effort. Now hopefully Republicans can work on getting the spending under control.HoolaHoopMan

Spending under control? This is the republican party you're talking about. They haven't been fiscially responsible since the mid1900's.

The guy who lowered taxes and then massively increased defense spending? Are you kidding? I'm talking about Eisenhower, also Nixon and Ford. The republican party should listen to Nelson Rockefeller.

Let's bring it on to the Senate! Where it can die and people can shut up. Maniacc1

They can't shut up quite yet, there is the whole ordeal with the lawsuit filed against the Health Care Reform saying it is unconstitutional.

Insurance itself is a ripoff. I don't see how the new bill would have made everyone's lives better. Yes, I'm aware that there are some incentives to insurance but the whole system is flawed to a point where there's price increases for certain products that shouldn't be that expensive in the first place. Also, there's a lack of competition in the healthcare market so how this bill would have improved healthcare is anybody's guess. Then again, that's my opinion. Tell me if I'm wrong.

I hope none of the people who are happy about the repeal have a pre-existing condition, or don't develop one. Because then it would just be ironic when they were denied.

Then again, odds are a lot of them do and are just too stupid to realize what they want to happen.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]

Spending under control? This is the republican party you're talking about. They haven't been fiscially responsible since the mid1900's.

Former_Slacker

The guy who lowered taxes and then massively increased defense spending? Are you kidding? I'm talking about Eisenhower, also Nixon and Ford. The republican party should listen to Nelson Rockefeller.

:lol:

My bad I read it as 1990's, not 1900's. Somehow I thought you were saying they were fiscally responsible in the 1990's. That's why I responded.

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]Let's bring it on to the Senate! Where it can die and people can shut up. DarkGamer007

They can't shut up quite yet, there is the whole ordeal with the lawsuit filed against the Health Care Reform saying it is unconstitutional.

I see Republicans' haste to repeal HCR. Have they expressed any of their solutions to fixing the healthcare problem?

The only part of the ACA that will get possibly struck down is the mandate on purchasing insurance. The rest will stay.LukeAF24

Considering that that mandate is what makes everything else possible, we had better pray that that does not happen.

Either way, they won't ever shut up about it because it's a monetary disaster, and their big push right now is being fiscally responsible and reducing the deficit.LukeAF24

Considering that the CBO has estimated that repeal would increase the deficit, um, yeah.

I see Republicans' haste to repeal HCR. Have they expressed any of their solutions to fixing the healthcare problem?

LikeHaterade

Solutions!? Those are things that Democrats propose, man. :x

I see Republicans' haste to repeal HCR. Have they expressed any of their solutions to fixing the healthcare problem?

LikeHaterade

It will never pass the senate. And if they want to repeal it, fine. But first, they need to have something better to replace it.

LOL. Did you see what its called? Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act. LOL. The GOP is so good at branding and marketing. The Democrats should have called the original one Coverage Expanding Small Business Tax Cut Deficit Reduction Health Care Law Act.

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

Yes, it still has to pass the Senate, and yes, Obama won't sign a repeal, and yes, there won't be enough to votes to override his veto, but this is FANTASTIC news! It looks like our country is headed back the way it should be, rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years. Great news; I hope the backlash against Barack Obama's willfully ignorant and destructive agenda continues to grow.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47831.html

Trooperdx3117

[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]The only part of the ACA that will get possibly struck down is the mandate on purchasing insurance. The rest will stay.GabuEx

Considering that that mandate is what makes everything else possible, we had better pray that that does not happen.

Either way, they won't ever shut up about it because it's a monetary disaster, and their big push right now is being fiscally responsible and reducing the deficit.LukeAF24

Considering that the CBO has estimated that repeal would increase the deficit, um, yeah.

To be quite honest I do understand that the deficit is a vastly rising concern but under any current politics we cannot fix it. Basically in order to fix it we would have to raise taxes, cut spending on Medicare, Medicaid, Defense, and Social Security. Few politicians would run on that platform as it would be political suicide as many people like those programs and even more don't like tax increases.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

I see Republicans' haste to repeal HCR. Have they expressed any of their solutions to fixing the healthcare problem?

GabuEx

Solutions!? Those are things that Democrats propose, man. :x

Ironically the PPACA is pretty much a republican bill. It's key component to expanding coverage was proposed by the republicans in the '90s against Clinton's plan and implented by Romney here.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

I see Republicans' haste to repeal HCR. Have they expressed any of their solutions to fixing the healthcare problem?

aransom

Interestingly enough, the health care reform proposal that passed and was signed into law was basically the Republicans' proposal back in 1993... so, I guess the Republicans back in 1993 were socialists?

Considering that the CBO has estimated that repeal would increase the deficit, um, yeah.

GabuEx

If it isn't repealed, you can just wait for the Surpreme Court to finally rule it unconstitutional.

To be quite honest I do understand that the deficit is a vastly rising concern but under any current politics we cannot fix it. Basically in order to fix it we would have to raise taxes, cut spending on Medicare, Medicaid, Defense, and Social Security. Few politicians would run on that platform as it would be political suicide as many people like those programs and even more don't like tax increases.

DarkGamer007

Pretty much; the whole reason why Republicans promote voodoo economics where you can cut taxes, not decrease spending, and still balance the budget, is because that's exactly what people want to hear.

[QUOTE="Trooperdx3117"][QUOTE="Communistik"]

Yes, it still has to pass the Senate, and yes, Obama won't sign a repeal, and yes, there won't be enough to votes to override his veto, but this is FANTASTIC news! It looks like our country is headed back the way it should be, rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years. Great news; I hope the backlash against Barack Obama's willfully ignorant and destructive agenda continues to grow.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47831.html

SF_KiLLaMaN

Look at page 7, we pay over double the average of all OECD countries for healthcare yet have much less coverage and similar results. Canadian healthcare is very much better than american healthcare for the average person. I am against the individual mandate myself but it is the only way to make the bill work, I would prefer a system similar to Germany or Japan to what is in the PPACA if you want to keep care totally private. How is the government exempt from it? I remeber reading a provison that states that officals must buy insurance on the exchanges once they are established in 2014 but I'm not sure about that.

Also ask your grandparents whether they would rather buy their own healthcare than receive medicare.

[QUOTE="Trooperdx3117"][QUOTE="Communistik"]

Yes, it still has to pass the Senate, and yes, Obama won't sign a repeal, and yes, there won't be enough to votes to override his veto, but this is FANTASTIC news! It looks like our country is headed back the way it should be, rather than into the ground like it has been for the last 2 years. Great news; I hope the backlash against Barack Obama's willfully ignorant and destructive agenda continues to grow.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47831.html

SF_KiLLaMaN

If our current/previous (depending on how you look at it) Health Care System is so great why do those working in Congress have their own specialized health care?

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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

I see Republicans' haste to repeal HCR. Have they expressed any of their solutions to fixing the healthcare problem?

GabuEx

Interestingly enough, the health care reform proposal that passed and was signed into law was basically the Republicans' proposal back in 1993... so, I guess the Republicans back in 1993 were socialists?

Of course! Just like that evil communist Reagan and his amnesty for illegal immigrants, not to mention his evil earn income tax credit. Or that socialistic tree hugger Nixon and his EPA and food stamps. Or that evil wealth re-distributor Eisenhower and his unamerican highways and greater than 90% top marginal tax rate.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]Considering that the CBO has estimated that repeal would increase the deficit, um, yeah.

LukeAF24

Also the CBO has said no such thing. The law is projected to save us money over time.

What I want to see is that provision where states can opt out of the federal plan and create their own plans, if they can cover as many people and retain similar or lesser costs, go into effect. Should start somewhere around 2017 if I remember correctly.