Unvaccinated Children Less Likely to have Asthma or Allergies

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German homeopathic practitioner Andreas Bachmair compiled health data on more than 8,000 unvaccinated children from at least 15 different countries, and compared it to health data compiled on more than 17,400 vaccinated children involved in a German study known as KiGGS - The German Health Interview and Examination Survey for Children and Adolescents. The children involved in both studies ranged in age from 0 - 17, but most of the children involved in the unvaccinated study were eight years of age or younger. Both studies, however, used the same criteria for collecting data on children's health, and both are considered to have arrived at valid results. In every single health category evaluated as part of both studies, the overall health of unvaccinated children was leaps and bounds ahead of the vaccinated children. The allergy rate among vaccinated children, for instance, was more than double the allergy rate among unvaccinated children. And worse, vaccinated children were found to be nearly eight times more prone to developing asthma or chronic Bronchitis than were unvaccinated children. http://www.whale.to/v/ethan_huff1.html
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The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!
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The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!weedfacekilla

The Amish are also far less likely to get involved in Western Medicine. How is a very religious, non technology using group representative of the whole of modern society?

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What I want to know is.....what is Ron Paul's stance on the issue?....

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[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"]The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!Iszdope

So...vaccinations could make you a genius?

That's awesome.

hahaha be my guest
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#8 THE_DRUGGIE
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The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!weedfacekilla

Yeah but then I'd have a bad case of Amish.

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#9 weedfacekilla
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What I want to know is.....what is Ron Paul's stance on the issue?....

Omni-Slash
I sense sarcasm but I'll bite; it would be up to you if you want to take them and up to the parents if they want their kids vaccinated
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[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"]The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!THE_DRUGGIE

Yeah but then I'd have a bad case of Amish.

it would most def suck to be Amish
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]

What I want to know is.....what is Ron Paul's stance on the issue?....

weedfacekilla

I sense sarcasm but I'll bite; it would be up to you if you want to take them and up to the parents if they want their kids vaccinated

But I want to be vaccinated against Amish.

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[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"] I sense sarcasm but I'll bite; it would be up to you if you want to take them and up to the parents if they want their kids vaccinated

So what you're saying is that Ron Paul is for the choice to give Autism to your children if you so wish?...
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[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Yeah but then I'd have a bad case of Amish.

Iszdope

it would most def suck to be Amish

I like their houses most.

dem beards....
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#15 THE_DRUGGIE
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If nobody takes their vaccines, we will have Amish running everywhere. Why are they so rare today? Vaccines.

We need to keep the barn-raising disease at bay.

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#16 Omni-Slash
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[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"] dem beards....

personally...I'm impressed with their mad barn raising skillz yo.....
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="weedfacekilla"] I sense sarcasm but I'll bite; it would be up to you if you want to take them and up to the parents if they want their kids vaccinated

So what you're saying is that Ron Paul is for the choice to give Autism to your children if you so wish?...

'technically' but the important thing is he would not use the federal government's power to forcefully vaccinate you against your will, do this, and as more and more studies come out, less parents would vaccinate their kids. it's all a matter of personal choice he says there's dangers and benefits to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f74xvtRijMc
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I know people aren't hatin' on the Amish Right now....better check yoself.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg&ob=av3e
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#20 freek666
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I can't be the only one who read this as "Unvaccinated Chicken".
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#21 Omni-Slash
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I can't be the only one who read this as "Unvaccinated Chicken".freek666
Bagawk!...
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I know people aren't hatin' on the Amish Right now....better check yoself.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg&ob=av3e

LOL
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#23 tenaka2
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You realise this is a crazy conspiracy website right?

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Medicine is bad for you. If you stay away from the doctor, you won't get sick.
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#26 weedfacekilla
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You realise this is a crazy conspiracy website right?

tenaka2
you realize that was an actual study right? not funded by vaccine makers themselves. you can choose to write anything off as 'conspiracy' doesn't mean it is
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I know people aren't hatin' on the Amish Right now....better check yoself.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg&ob=av3e

Quaker>>>Amish
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] Quaker>>>Amish

oh no you di'int....Sh*t Just got real!......
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

You realise this is a crazy conspiracy website right?

weedfacekilla

you realize that was an actual study right? not funded by vaccine makers themselves. you can choose to write anything off as 'conspiracy' doesn't mean it is

Ok crazy person, I will post other stories from the site:

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

You realise this is a crazy conspiracy website right?

weedfacekilla

you realize that was an actual study right? not funded by vaccine makers themselves. you can choose to write anything off as 'conspiracy' doesn't mean it is

Survey, not study. Big difference.

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Un-vaccinated children are more likely to die of horrible diseases.

My neighbor got TBE 10 years ago. He can almost walk now but will most likely never be able to drive a car again.

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Un-vaccinated children are more likely to die of horrible diseases.

My neighbor got TBE 10 years ago. He can almost walk now but will most likely never be able to drive a car again.

JLF1MarkII

Plus, in getting the disease, they're more likely to spread it to other unvaccinated children. So mandatory vaccinations could actually be a fine thing - it certainly beats having little libertarian plague-bearers all over the place.

As for the asthma thing, even if we assume that's true, where's the causation?
How about this alternative: More people are vaccinated in developing or developed countries. Developing and developed countries have the most cars, factories, and other sources of air pollutants. Air pollutants increase the risk of developing asthma.

That matches the study perfectly, without the need to jump to wild conclusions.

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Unvacinnated children also more likely to get measles, mumps, rubella, polio, and diptheria. And die or suffer serious disability from those ailments.

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#34 helwa1988
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The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!weedfacekilla
One of my moms friends has six kids. None of them were vaccinated. 1 of the kids has autism. And the other has a bunch of other mental issues.

Just because you don't get your kid vaccinated doesn't mean they won't get those things. So yeah don't vaccinate them and watch kids start dying of the measles again. And disabled by polio.

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[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

Un-vaccinated children are more likely to die of horrible diseases.

My neighbor got TBE 10 years ago. He can almost walk now but will most likely never be able to drive a car again.

Planeforger

Plus, in getting the disease, they're more likely to spread it to other unvaccinated children.

As for the asthma thing, even if we assume that's true, where's the causation?
How about this alternative: More people are vaccinated in developing or developed countries. Developing and developed countries have the most cars, factories, and other sources of air pollutants. Air pollutants increase the risk of developing asthma.

Cleaner living conditions have been confirmed to cause allergies as well. It's much less likely to get allergies if you live in the countryside. People have been living with dirt, nature and animals for thousands of years.

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#36 Blue-Sky
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The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!weedfacekilla

You're wrong.

Majority of the Amish do vaccinate their children. Doing so isn't against their dogma on life.

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German homeopathic practitioner Andreas Bachmair compiled health data on more than 8,000 unvaccinated children from at least 15 different countries, and compared it to health data compiled on more than 17,400 vaccinated children involved in a German study known as KiGGS - The German Health Interview and Examination Survey for Children and Adolescents. The children involved in both studies ranged in age from 0 - 17, but most of the children involved in the unvaccinated study were eight years of age or younger. Both studies, however, used the same criteria for collecting data on children's health, and both are considered to have arrived at valid results. In every single health category evaluated as part of both studies, the overall health of unvaccinated children was leaps and bounds ahead of the vaccinated children. The allergy rate among vaccinated children, for instance, was more than double the allergy rate among unvaccinated children. And worse, vaccinated children were found to be nearly eight times more prone to developing asthma or chronic Bronchitis than were unvaccinated children. http://www.whale.to/v/ethan_huff1.htmlweedfacekilla
bullshyt. 50 bucks says the study participants were farm/rural kids that get exposed to dirt and animals at a higher rate than urban dwellers.

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I've been vaccinated for everything I think, and had a few flu shots, and I have no allergies and no asthma.
The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!weedfacekilla
This is the stupidest assumption I've ever read. Look, let's say you have cancer. You're dying and in pain. But you don't know it's cancer, all you know is you're hurting like hell and nothing anybody can do will stop it or make you feel better, you just have to wait to die. Is your undiagnosed cancer still cancer if nobody diagnoses it as cancer? If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound? The Amish have autistic people. They just don't regard them as autistic. Billy just is a bit slow at doing things, and Susie has a hard time concentrating and doesn't like loud noises or scratchy clothing touching her skin. Anything that is absolutely naturally occurring or is unknown exactly how or why it occurs they have. You just don't see it because handicapped people are not the forefront of a community. It's not like the community is made up of a large population of handicapped people either way.
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And they're more likely to get a deadly or crippling disease without vaccinations.

I'll take an order of Asthma, Allergies and a side of fries - to go.

Thanks.

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[...] homeopathic practitioner [...]weedfacekilla
Stopped reading here. What they vaccinate for is far worse than an increased risk of asthma or allergies...
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The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!weedfacekilla
Many Amish do vaccinate their children.

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And they're more likely to get a deadly or crippling disease without vaccinations.

I'll take an order of Asthma, Allergies and a side of fries - to go.

Thanks.

Netherscourge

and they won't get those if you let your kids go play in the dirt with some dogs and expose them to farm animals.

i grew up next to a dairy and drank raw milk for years as a child and do not even have an allergic reaction to poison ivy and poison oak.

my theory is that since the milk tasted different at different times of the year.

(for example it was a little onion-y in the spring when they ate those wild onions in the field)

the cows got bits of poison oak and ivy as they grazed and passed some sort of immunity on to me in the raw unprocessed milk.

just a theory but seriously i can roll in a patch of that crap and not get a single welt.

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This is pretty much like the 'hygience hypothesis' which states that autoimmune related diseases like allergies or asthma may be caused due to the lack of exposure to potentially hazardous diseases, infections and fungi. Apparently the autoimmune system of the average human needs 'practice' every now and then or else it runs rampant against the body itself.

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German homeopathic practitioner Andreas Bachmairweedfacekilla

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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The Amish have ZERO cases of Autism! ZERO! NO VACCINES = LIFE!weedfacekilla
The Amish are the Fourth Reich.
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This is pretty much like the 'hygience hypothesis' which states that autoimmune related diseases like allergies or asthma may be caused due to the lack of exposure to potentially hazardous diseases, infections and fungi. Apparently the autoimmune system of the average human needs 'practice' every now and then or else it runs rampant against the body itself.

rastotm

it is because the auto immune system is a highly developed system that is ready to leap into action at a moments notice to save the organisms life.

if you don't let it get out and stretch it's proverbial legs on a regular basis it starts chomping at the bit to react to something and starts to react to random shyt in the environment.

anyway to get back to the topic vaccine deniers are nutjobs.

vaccines were around decades before the uptick in autism and allergy rates.

you have a better chance at showing autism is linked to mario brothers, heavy metal music, cell phones and microwave popcorn than showing a legit link to vaccines.

the timing certainly shows up for those far closer than to vaccines.

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You need to educate yourself on what is and isn't a credible source.

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First of all, lol @ alternative medicine. Secondly, I'd rather live with my allergies than get meningitis, or any number of other diseases I've been vaccinated for.
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#50 Riverwolf007
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You need to educate yourself on what is and isn't a credible source.

TopTierHustler

no way dude jim carey and jenny mccarthy are a totally legit source for all your science needs.