United States Coronavirus Death Toll Rises To 17.

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Clusters of infection are likely in American communities, health officials said. Some lawmakers questioned whether the nation is prepared.

The coronavirus almost certainly will begin spreading in communities in the United States, and Americans should begin preparations now, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Tuesday.

“It’s not so much of a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more of a question of exactly when this will happen,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said in a news briefing.

In the event of an outbreak, communities should plan for “social distancing measures,” like dividing school classes into smaller groups of students, closing schools, canceling meetings and conferences, and arranging for employees to work from home.

“We are asking the American public to prepare for the expectation that this might be bad,” Dr. Messonnier said.

China’s battle to contain the epidemic has shown signs of success, with a plunge in the rate of new infections. But this positive trend was overshadowed by the sudden appearance of clusters of infections in Iran, South Korea and Italy, underlining the threat of a global pandemic racing out of control.

The emergence of these new hubs underscored the lack of a coordinated global strategy to combat the coronavirus, which has infected nearly 80,000 people in 37 countries, causing at least 2,600 deaths.

“We cannot hermetically seal off the United States to a virus,” Alex M. Azar II, the secretary of health and humans services, told a Senate panel on Tuesday. “And we need to be realistic about that.”

Stocks plunged for the second day in a row, down nearly 3 percent by Tuesday afternoon, a decline that put the S&P in the red for the year.

As recently as last Wednesday, the index was at a record high. But since then, growing outbreaks in Europe and elsewhere in Asia have raised fears that the virus will continue to be a drag on drag on the global economy.

At the moment, the United States has just 57 cases, 40 of them connected to the Diamond Princess, the cruise ship overwhelmed by the coronavirus after it docked in Japan. Those patients are in isolation in hospitals, and there are no signs of sustained transmission in American communities yet.

Officials at the C.D.C. said they did not know whether spread of the disease to the United States would be mild or severe. But Americans should be ready for a significant disruption to their daily lives, Dr. Messonnier said.

Addressing rising concerns, President Trump on Tuesday said at a news briefing in India: “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country.”

“We have very few people with it and the people that have it are, in all cases, I have not heard anything other — the people are getting better, they’re all getting better.”

But on Tuesday, members of the administration were grilled on Capitol Hill by lawmakers from both parties, who made it clear they were not convinced that the Trump administration was prepared for the outbreak that the C.D.C. is forecasting.

Senator John Kennedy, Republican of Louisiana, grew exasperated when the acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Chad F. Wolf, could not say how many people were expected to become infected.

“I’m all for committees and task forces but you’re the secretary,” Mr. Kennedy responded. “I think you ought to know that answer.”

The administration officials overseeing the response to a potential coronavirus outbreak told lawmakers that the initial amount of money requested by the White House — $1.25 billion in new funds and $1.25 billion taken from other programs — would likely be just a first round.

Mr. Azar said that there are 30 million N95 masks in the nation’s emergency stockpile, which typically cost less than $1 apiece.

Senator Patty Murray, Democrat of Washington, asked the health secretary whether he thought the United States currently had enough health masks in stock.

“Of course not,” he responded, “or else we wouldn’t be asking for more.”

Mr. Azar said he was alarmed by the human-to-human transmission of the virus in other parts of the world without an identifiable connection to confirmed cases, and what that could mean for how the virus may hit the United States in the coming months.

Dr. Messonnier said that because there is currently no vaccine or treatment for the new coronavirus, communities and individuals should prepare other means of protecting themselves.

Dr. Messonnier said that she had sat down with her children and told them, “we as a family need to prepare for significant disruption of our lives.”

Individually, people can take the measures recommended for other infectious diseases, like washing their hands, covering their mouths when they cough, and staying home and away from others when they are sick.

Americans “should ask their schools about plans for dismissal” and for conducting classes online in the event that the spread of illness becomes serious, she said.

“I contacted my local school superintendent this morning with exactly those questions.”

The World Health Organization said that the pace of confirmed new cases in China, which exceeded 2,000 a day a month ago, had dropped steadily, to a low of 508 on Monday.

The severe measures imposed by the Chinese authorities to isolate patients and the hardest-hit areas had likely prevented hundreds of thousands of additional infections, the W.H.O. officials added.

But W.H.O. officials have also warned that the world is unprepared for a leap in infections, which could overwhelm medical resources in many countries. They also cautioned that new cases could suddenly resurge in China, as the government struggles to get people back to work.

And there are persistent doubts about the accuracy of infection figures reported by the Chinese government, raising the possibility that the true magnitude of the outbreak remains underreported.

By Tuesday, South Korea had reported a total of 893 cases, the second most in the world, and the C.D.C. warned Americans not to travel there.

Of the 60 new cases reported by South Korea’s federal health agency, 49 came from Daegu, the city at the center of the the country’s outbreak.

In Iran, a spike in coronavirus infections — including to the top health official in charge of fighting the disease — has prompted fears of a contagion throughout the Middle East. In Italy, one of Europe’s largest economies, officials are struggling to prevent the epidemic from paralyzing the commercial center of Milan.

Time to get prepared. The virus is spreading in Iran, South Korea and Italy. Stock market fell more than 1,000 points yesterday, 800 points so far today. No need for panic, need to get prepared.

OT, are you prepared?

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*Cue talk about how so many people die each year of the flu*

We get it, but people tend to get scare by the new stuff not the old known.

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  • What is a Coronavirus? It is a novel virus named for the crown-like spikes that protrude from its surface. The coronavirus can infect both animals and people, and can cause a range of respiratory illnesses from the common cold to more dangerous conditions like Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or SARS.
  • How contagious is the virus?
    According to preliminary research, it seems moderately infectious, similar to SARS, and is probably transmitted through sneezes, coughs and contaminated surfaces. Scientists have estimated that each infected person could spread it to somewhere between 1.5 and 3.5 people without effective containment measures.
  • Where has the virus spread?
    The virus, which originated in Wuhan, China, has sickened more than 80,000 people in at least 33 countries, including Italy, Iran and South Korea.
  • How worried should I be?
    New outbreaks in Asia, Europe and the Middle East are renewing fears of a global pandemic. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned this week that Americans should brace for the likelihood that the virus will spread to the United States.
  • Who is working to contain the virus?
    The World Health Organization officials have been working with officials in China, where growth has slowed. But this week, as confirmed cases spiked on two continents, experts warned that the world is not ready for a major outbreak.
  • What if I’m traveling?
    The C.D.C. haswarned older and at-risk travelers to avoid Japan, Italy and Iran. The agency also has advised against all non-essential travel to South Korea and China.
  • How do I keep myself and others safe?Washing your hands frequently is the most important thing you can do, along with staying at home when you’re sick.
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I remembered the 2009 H1N1 and I didn't even do anything to prepare for that and 59 million americans were infected by that virus, just looked it up right now. I'm actually pretty surprised by those numbers. I remembered hearing it on the news but I didn't think it as that much of a big deal. In fact, I was annoyed that Obama kept saying to get flu shot over and over again.

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@Master_Live:

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To quote Paramount's Red October... My point, "you doomed us all" pointed at governments. :p

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Ideally, the U.S. doesn't see a big increase in cases. The U.S. government wouldn't be able to treat an epidemic as well as the Chinese government. Fortunately, the U.S. population is substantially smaller.

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I was hearing last night we have no institutions prepared for a pandemic response, Obama beefed them up in his term out of the ebola fear, and Trump gutted them for no other reason than reversing everything Obama did. Trump is more interested in saying it is no big deal to stop markets from dropping. He's supposed to appoint a new czar to deal with this, but I can only imagine it will be someone who is an unqualified sycophants who will parrot whatever the president tells him to say.

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@lamprey263 said:

I was hearing last night we have no institutions prepared for a pandemic response, Obama beefed them up in his term out of the ebola fear, and Trump gutted them for no other reason than reversing everything Obama did. Trump is more interested in saying it is no big deal to stop markets from dropping. He's supposed to appoint a new czar to deal with this, but I can only imagine it will be someone who is an unqualified sycophants who will parrot whatever the president tells him to say.

Oh man, I feel in a situation like this, we've been totally putting the wrong people in charge worldwide. Too many populists with huge egos who only want more power. They've been working so hard making up non-existent threats that there's no way they can deal with a real one. Who's to say they won't abandon us when the shit hits the fan?

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I hope we all die humans deserve it.

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@warmblur said:

I hope we all die humans deserve it.

yeah, that's not going to happen

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Good thing our government didn’t make massive budgetary cuts to agencies that will help to combat this...

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@lamprey263: Cool story bro. Do you have a source other than "I was hearing last night.."? Let me guess, you heard it on CNN?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/podcasts/the-daily/coronavirus.html

worth a listen

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Officials see growing indications that the virus has been spreading undetected for weeks. A cluster of cases at one nursing home have made Kirkland, Wash., a focus of concern.

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Don't mind me. Just passing through.

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#20  Edited By DEVILinIRON
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I live in WA state. Two people got taken in from a neighborhood school just recently.

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Their immune systems are probably weak from their vegan lifestyle and homeopathic quack medicine.

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Oh wow of all the states. Guess DC is full of chinese spies after all.

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@Guy_Brohski said:

@lamprey263: Cool story bro. Do you have a source other than "I was hearing last night.."? Let me guess, you heard it on CNN?

oh, you clearly think it's "fake news"

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Just for those that may not know or get confused (I used to be confused about this too!) Washington State and Washington DC are two different places.

Washington State is 1 of the 50 states of the union:

Washington State
Washington State

And then there is Washington DC, the capital of the union (where the White House, Congress, Pentagon etc. are located), but which is NOT a state of the union.

Washington DC
Washington DC

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@sakaixx said:

Oh wow of all the states. Guess DC is full of chinese spies after all.

Washington state..……….NOT DC.

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@LJS9502_basic: well, now you know I'm terrible with maps.

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@Master_Live said:

*Cue talk about how so many people die each year of the flu*

We get it, but people tend to get scare by the new stuff not the old known.

/Thread

However Governments, Institutions, Corporations and the media never like to let a crisis go to waste. The media wants the eyeballs, the government wants more power, the Corporations want to sell you more things you don't need and the institutions want more funding.

So they all have incentives to make people think this is worse than it is.

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@lamprey263: It sure sounds like fake news and lemme guess, no link?

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@Guy_Brohski: Here you go. Sorry, you'll have to read - US underprepared for coronavirus due to Trump cuts, say health experts

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@lamprey263: Apparently The Guardian and other liberal tabloids like to distort the truth:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/democrats-misleading-coronavirus-claims/

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@Master_Live said:

Just for those that may not know or get confused (I used to be confused about this too!) Washington State and Washington DC are two different places.

Washington State is 1 of the 50 states of the union:

And then there is Washington DC, the capital of the union (where the White House, Congress, Pentagon etc. are located), but which is NOT a state of the union.

What is this, grade 4 geography? Do people really confuse the two?

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@SOedipus said:
@Master_Live said:

Just for those that may not know or get confused (I used to be confused about this too!) Washington State and Washington DC are two different places.

Washington State is 1 of the 50 states of the union:

And then there is Washington DC, the capital of the union (where the White House, Congress, Pentagon etc. are located), but which is NOT a state of the union.

What is this, grade 4 geography? Do people really confuse the two?

It still happens.

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This all feels familiar.

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Most of those who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. so far have been in Washington state, with one death in California and two in Florida.

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