the rebirth of SOPA and PIPA through ACTA

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#1 _R34LiTY_
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ACTA has actually been in the works for some time now, but now it aims to adopt some of the "principles" by the two internet acts that were recently shot down.

If you thought the Stop Online Piracy Act and the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act were scary, imagine this: There is an international treaty with the same goals and civil rights infringements as its American cousins, crafted in secrecy outside any existing trade organization with the help of industry giants such as the Motion Picture Association of America.

The treaty's goal is to ban counterfeit goods and online piracy by requiring Internet Protocol servers and individual websites to monitor and prosecute suspected copyright infringements. But the goal comes packaged with some collateral damage: infringements on individual's civil rights and the creation of a system responsible for widespread, international online censorship.

This nightmare treaty is called the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. It has most of the same goals, supporters and privacy abuses of SOPA and PIPA. What it didn't have was the kind of public outcry led by websites such as Reddit and Wikipedia when it was signed by the U.S. The treaty now awaits ratification by the European Union before it goes into full force.

ACTA's scope is far wider than SOPA or PIPA. It aims to stop the "proliferation of counterfeit and pirated goods, as well as of services that share infringing material." This includes knockoff Louis Vuitton purses and cheap counterfeit medicine in developing nations. It also means any website or program that could potentially be used to infringe copyrighted material, from sites with links for music downloads to music-burning software, would be automatically outlawed.

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http://www.thedailyaztec.com/2012/01/acta-has-same-dangers-as-pipa-and-sopa/The Daily Aztec

People have been saying the SOPA & PIPA was just a prelude of what's to come, and this might be the bigger picture that people haven't been seeing.

Was our will represented by our representatives? That's what they're there for. No?

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ACTA has been in the works for awhile. It pokes its head up for a bit and then it disappears for a long time.

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#4 CHOASXIII
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Why don't they just stop already? Oh that's right, they don't care.

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Why don't they just stop already? Oh that's right, they don't care.

CHOASXIII

Indeed, they really don't.

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#6 Serraph105
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ACTA has been in the works for awhile. It pokes its head up for a bit and then it disappears for a long time.

Wasdie
I don't really know anything about this, but I hope you're right.
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#7 coolbeans90
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inEWFYnRYgI

Seriously, this sh!t won't stop until either a constitutional amendment of sorts is passed or SCOTUS hammers down on invasion of privacy. Otherwise we will fight this same war over and again, and we will lose.

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#8 _R34LiTY_
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

ACTA has been in the works for awhile. It pokes its head up for a bit and then it disappears for a long time.

Serraph105

I don't really know anything about this, but I hope you're right.

It has been in the works since,.... 2008, more or less. As it is however, it seems like it's going to finally poke it's head one more time and make its pass as protestors around the world are fed up with this.

WARSAW, Poland - Hundreds of people waged a street protest in Warsaw on Tuesday to protest the government's plan to sign an international copyright treaty, while several popular websites also shut down for an hour over the issue.

Poland's support for the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, or ACTA, has sparked days of protest, including attacks on government sites, by groups who fear it could lead to online censorship.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46114485/Polish_websites_to_go_dark_to_protest_ACTACNBC

Legal definition in a court is going to be interesting, very interesting

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#9 markop2003
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ACTA has been in the works for awhile. It pokes its head up for a bit and then it disappears for a long time.

Wasdie
It dosn't disappear it's just that the politicians aren't disclosing anything so you only hear about it when there's a leak. Anyway, reps don't really work when there isn't an alternative, i don't think there's any vote you could make that wouldn't result in a majority of ACTA supporters being in office.
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Seriously, this sh!t won't stop until either a constitutional amendment of sorts is passed or SCOTUS hammers down on invasion of privacy. Otherwise we will fight this same war over and again, and we will lose.

coolbeans90

We only lose when we quit fighting.

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Governments all across the western hemisphere have seen now that the internet at large clearly doesn't want to be censored and that they're willing to fight back to prove a point. You would think after SOPA and PIPA were shot down in a massive day of protest that the governments of the world would take note and back off for the time being. Instead we get a nice big fvck you not just from the US government but from many other countries as well.
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#12 gameguy6700
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FYI, there's also YET ANOTHER bill in the US that would harm the internet and may be used to revive SOPA/PIPA should ACTA fail. That bill being the Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act. Contrary to the name it has nothing to do with child porn (or any type of pornography for that matter) nor does it have anything to do with children. Rather, what it does is force ISPs to collect and maintain for several years data about their customers. Not just activity logs but also home addresses, phone numbers, social security numbers, and credit card numbers. Law enforcement agencies (and litigants in civil action cases too I believe) could then request ALL of that information without a warrant or any kind of legal process. Just tell the ISP you want it, you get it. As if this wasn't bad enough, the burden of holding all of that information (especially the activity logs) would crush small ISPs and force the bigger ones to greatly increase their costs for internet subscriptions. And of course such a bill is guaranteed to pass unless there's huge public outcry since no congressman is going to vote against something that has the words "protecting children" in it.
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#13 Necrifer
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Yeah. It's never-ending.

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#14 azazel_666
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lol, here we go again.

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#15 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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The problem with SOPA and PIPA were how they combat piracy. I dont think there's some massive conspiracy by the government to shut down the net. I think governments want to stop online piracy. Likely because of the huge lobby from the industries that are affected. No easy way to do that, but these bills are their misguided attempt to do so.

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#16 wis3boi
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easiest way to stop piracy is to stop fighting it so hard

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#17 gamerboy100
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I hate to say it, but I think ACTA is already in effect.I was told thatmy cousin downloaded torrents a while back and his ISP (I believe it was Comcast) sent him an e-mail warning him that it is illegal to download torrent files.