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#1 Posted by dave123321 (35329 posts) -

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/10/obama-shakes-raul-castro-hand-at-mandela-service/

What do you think about The Shake?

Does this alter your views on Obama?

Do you feel that Obama should try and gain back the trust and respect he tarnished?

Is this basically nothing to care about?

Discuss.

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#2 Posted by Judas_ (319 posts) -

I don't think anything's going to come pout of this...................

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#3 Posted by Serraph105 (31765 posts) -

I think that when Fox news is outraged about a handshake the folks there are simply trying to keep their job, which in large part is being outraged at the president.

If they don't have something legitimate they will bitch and moan about something (anything) with enough false conviction until their core audience agrees with them.

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#4 Posted by worlock77 (22552 posts) -

I'll start taking some of these fuckers seriously when they start holding some of the other bloody dictators we support to task.

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#5 Posted by LordQuorthon (5677 posts) -

I was expecting a new dance/youtube thing, like the Harlem Shake, that had something to do with Obama. Needless to say, I'm terribly disappointed.

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#6 Posted by Makhaidos (2162 posts) -

Meanwhile, in the real world. . .

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#7 Posted by Perfect_Blue (29940 posts) -

Anyone who has an issue with this needs to seek mental help, go outside, or get laid.

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#8 Edited by JML897 (33134 posts) -

Was he supposed to punch him or something

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#9 Edited by JDWolfie (1950 posts) -

Nothing is going to change. Obama later criticized the Castros indirectly in his speech. Relations will stay the same.

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#10 Posted by Masculus (2878 posts) -

About as significant as the crocodile tears shed for the loss of the south african leader.

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#11 Posted by Wilfred_Owen (20964 posts) -
@JML897 said:

Was he supposed to punch him or something

I won't lie. That would have been pretty awesome to see. Teddy would have done it.

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#12 Posted by jimkabrhel (15625 posts) -

It's a respectful handshake at a funeral, nothing more. Just FoxNews trying to make something against Obama out of nothing, as usual.

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#13 Posted by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

I don't understand the hate for Fidel, Raul, and Che.

I guess America forgot Cuba was one of the few nations to help Angolan people obtain equality, and prosperity. America pretty much said "Nope, blacks don't need equality".

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#14 Edited by lamprey263 (34424 posts) -

I thought Obama was Hitler, and if he's appeasing Hitler, that's like some paradox enducing handshake that could tear the very fabric of space and time and trigger the end of times.

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#15 Posted by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

I thought Obama was Hitler, and if he's appeasing Hitler, that's like some paradox enducing handshake that could tear the very fabric of space and time and trigger the end of times.

Hitler would never shake a Commie's hand.

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#16 Posted by HuggyBear1020 (467 posts) -

It WAS a little over the top

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#17 Posted by 4myAmuzumament (1791 posts) -

nothing will change. everyone that hated him before still hates him now...

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#18 Edited by Shottayouth13- (7014 posts) -

"Ruthless dictator like Raul Castro"

WOW.

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#19 Posted by Nibroc420 (13571 posts) -

@jimkabrhel said:

It's a respectful handshake at a funeral, nothing more. Just FoxNews trying to make something against Obama out of nothing, as usual.

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#20 Edited by The-Apostle (12195 posts) -
  1. Don't care.
  2. No.
  3. I never trusted or respected that moron anyway.
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#21 Edited by themajormayor (25536 posts) -

Cuba>>>>>USA

Always was a big fan of Fidel.

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#22 Edited by themajormayor (25536 posts) -

@Fightingfan said:

@lamprey263 said:

I thought Obama was Hitler, and if he's appeasing Hitler, that's like some paradox enducing handshake that could tear the very fabric of space and time and trigger the end of times.

Hitler would never shake a Commie's hand.

He was on friendly terms with Stalin for a long while. + Hitler was a Socialist

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#23 Posted by THE_DRUGGIE (25057 posts) -

Does this mean I can get a Cuban mail order bride without having to consult that Sanchez guy on Jefferson Street?

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#24 Posted by Laihendi (5876 posts) -

At this point it is not even surprising for Obama to be caught palling around with communists, and the fact that so many here are willing to brush it aside is disturbing and speaks to the level of degeneration that this country has suffered, both intellectually and politically through the debasement of the constitution, the constitution that the founders intended.

Obama attends the funeral of a communist dictator and shakes the hand of another communist dictator. You people say it is not a big deal for Obama to shake hands with someone at a funeral, but why was he even at that funeral in the first place? Nelson Mandela's association with communist terrorist organizations is well-documented. The leader of the supposedly free world has no business there. The leader of the supposedly free world has no business sanctioning communism.

Try opening your eyes to what's happening rather than burying your heads in the sand whenever you see a piece of reality that you don't like.

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#25 Posted by THE_DRUGGIE (25057 posts) -

@Laihendi said:

At this point it is not even surprising for Obama to be caught palling around with communists, and the fact that so many here are willing to brush it aside is disturbing and speaks to the level of degeneration that this country has suffered, both intellectually and politically through the debasement of the constitution, the constitution that the founders intended.

Obama attends the funeral of a communist dictator and shakes the hand of another communist dictator. You people say it is not a big deal for Obama to shake hands with someone at a funeral, but why was he even at that funeral in the first place? Nelson Mandela's association with communist terrorist organizations is well-documented. The leader of the supposedly free world has no business there. The leader of the supposedly free world has no business sanctioning communism.

Try opening your eyes to what's happening rather than burying your heads in the sand whenever you see a piece of reality that you don't like.

This is why we should segregate all societies like in Lord of the Rings.

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#26 Edited by whipassmt (15375 posts) -

@THE_DRUGGIE said:

@Laihendi said:

At this point it is not even surprising for Obama to be caught palling around with communists, and the fact that so many here are willing to brush it aside is disturbing and speaks to the level of degeneration that this country has suffered, both intellectually and politically through the debasement of the constitution, the constitution that the founders intended.

Obama attends the funeral of a communist dictator and shakes the hand of another communist dictator. You people say it is not a big deal for Obama to shake hands with someone at a funeral, but why was he even at that funeral in the first place? Nelson Mandela's association with communist terrorist organizations is well-documented. The leader of the supposedly free world has no business there. The leader of the supposedly free world has no business sanctioning communism.

Try opening your eyes to what's happening rather than burying your heads in the sand whenever you see a piece of reality that you don't like.

This is why we should segregate all societies like in Lord of the Rings.

Hey I think Sauron's realm might have been more "diverse" than the other realms. Gondor and Rohan just had men, Erebor only had dwarves, Lorien, Rivendell, Thranduil's kingdom and I think the Grey Havens pretty much had only elves living there. I think Bree had both big people and hobbits. But Sauron's realm had all kinds of races, it had various orcs (uruks, snufflers, etc.), trolls, and a different races of people (Black Numenoreans, Haradrim, Easterlings, people from Umbar).

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#27 Posted by whipassmt (15375 posts) -

No big deal. World leader's often have to work with or at least get along with other heads of state that may be a bit unsavory. FDR met with Stalin which was probably necessary, though he should have stood up to Stalin more. Also I think Raul Castro has been making some reforms towards a more free country, I remember hearing a few years ago that he let people legally own cellphones, plus the Cuban government has been in negotiations with Spain and the Archbishop of Havana that have gotten some political prisoners released, though there are still some prisoners I think. For his part, Fidel Castor did reinstate Christmas as a national holiday (he had suppressed it after taking power, but he reinstated it as a token of gratitude to Pope John Paul II for speaking out against the embargo). That being said I think Obama could've used that handshake as an opportunity to talk to Castro about Alan Grossman who is an American citizen imprisoned in Cuba (maybe he did, I don't know). I think the U.S. should end or begin to loosen its embargo and travel restrictions on Cuba, and that the communist regime in Cuba will probably lose power eventually (I mean the Castro brothers are up there in age).

I think the bigger deal with Obama is the deal that the U.S. and Iran entered into. Among other things the U.S. released an Iranian nuclear scientist, but the Iranians still have Saeed Abedini, who is a dual American-Iranian citizen imprisoned because of his religion, in prison.

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#28 Posted by Fightingfan (38011 posts) -

@THE_DRUGGIE said:

Does this mean I can get a Cuban mail order bride without having to consult that Sanchez guy on Jefferson Street?

They're called prostitutes, and they're all over Miami's backpage website.

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#29 Edited by dave123321 (35329 posts) -

@Laihendi: well said man

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#30 Edited by THE_DRUGGIE (25057 posts) -

@Fightingfan said:

@THE_DRUGGIE said:

Does this mean I can get a Cuban mail order bride without having to consult that Sanchez guy on Jefferson Street?

They're called prostitutes, and they're all over Miami's backpage website.

But I don't like VD.

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#31 Edited by nomsayin (1346 posts) -

why the f*** is castro shaking the hand of a war criminal?

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#32 Posted by The-Apostle (12195 posts) -

@nomsayin said:

why the f*** is castro shaking the hand of a war criminal?

Not standing up for Obama but this comment left me scratching my head...

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#33 Posted by dave123321 (35329 posts) -

@The-Apostle: hey did you hear the news http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/12/us/hawaii-health-director-obama-birth/

Do you feel that something fishy is going on, apostle?

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#34 Edited by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

I came in here expecting a topic about a chocolate milkshake

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#35 Edited by JML897 (33134 posts) -

@Laihendi said:

At this point it is not even surprising for Obama to be caught palling around with communists, and the fact that so many here are willing to brush it aside is disturbing and speaks to the level of degeneration that this country has suffered, both intellectually and politically through the debasement of the constitution, the constitution that the founders intended.

Do you like Reagan?

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#36 Posted by vl4d_l3nin (1093 posts) -

@Laihendi said:

At this point it is not even surprising for Obama to be caught palling around with communists, and the fact that so many here are willing to brush it aside is disturbing and speaks to the level of degeneration that this country has suffered, both intellectually and politically through the debasement of the constitution, the constitution that the founders intended.

Obama attends the funeral of a communist dictator and shakes the hand of another communist dictator. You people say it is not a big deal for Obama to shake hands with someone at a funeral, but why was he even at that funeral in the first place? Nelson Mandela's association with communist terrorist organizations is well-documented. The leader of the supposedly free world has no business there. The leader of the supposedly free world has no business sanctioning communism.

Try opening your eyes to what's happening rather than burying your heads in the sand whenever you see a piece of reality that you don't like.

preach it, brother!

TOPIC: This doesn't alter my views on the Obama one bit. He's equally as much of a puppet than before he shook the dudes hand

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#37 Posted by THE_DRUGGIE (25057 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

I came in here expecting a topic about a chocolate milkshake

I was honestly expecting twerking.

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#38 Posted by airshocker (31700 posts) -

That was a really dumb handshake.

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#39 Posted by Nuck81 (6794 posts) -

Those commie loving bastards!