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#1 DmadFearmonger
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Progressive Rock/Metal. Any debating that?

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#2 pengo93
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Mathcore?

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Classical?
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Wagnerian 12-tone?

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#5 Saturos3091
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Classical...avant-garde jazz, fusion jazz, and yes some forms of metal/rock can be very complex/technical as well.

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#6 THE_DRUGGIE
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Aphex Twin.

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#7 CRS98
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Technical death metal.
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#8 ZIVX
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Choral Symphonic Metal sounds pretty scary

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#9 DmadFearmonger
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Oh nonononononono. Metalcore is the simplest genre I've ever heard.

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#10 pengo93
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Oh nonononononono. Metalcore is the simplest genre I've ever heard.

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No, mathcore.

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Classical really isn't that complex, there might be a lot of preperation to it and a lot of people playing at the same time. But the end result isn't too great

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#13 DmadFearmonger
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Sorry, misread. What's mathcore?

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#14 pengo93
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Sorry, misread. What's mathcore?

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Basically a complicated style of metalcore with unusual or changing time signatures. I don't really listen to it though.

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#15 PernicioEnigma
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Maybe Technical Death Metal, the technicality of some of those bands is just crazy.
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#16 DmadFearmonger
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Maybe, but if you listened to some Dream Theater. Progressive metal. The complexity of it is insane.

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#17 dracula_16
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Probably classical music. I think I would make a good conductor because I'm good at flailing my arms around. :P

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#18 carrot-cake
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Classical, no competition.

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#19 poptart
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Jazz...

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Classical really isn't that complex, there might be a lot of preperation to it and a lot of people playing at the same time. But the end result isn't too great

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When you are managing and creating music with so many people and instruments at once, it's sure as hell complicated, whether you like the music or not.
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Aphex Twin.THE_DRUGGIE
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Electronic. The music itself does not make any sense whatsoever. You need to be extremely talented and innovative in order to produce something amazing. Also, the way they mix stuff, I dunno but it feels different.

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#23 chessmaster1989
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Of all music, some forms of cIassical are certainly the most complex. Of modern music, technical death metal.
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#24 therancors
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Classical.
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#25 poptart
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Electronic. The music itself does not make any sense whatsoever. You need to be extremely talented and innovative in order to produce something amazing. Also, the way they mix stuff, I dunno but it feels different.

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Electronic is a very broad term, however it's much to do with production and sound engineering. Also you can automate a lot of effects with certain tools so what may sound complex may have simply been generated by the program you're using, or even a sample which you can **** around with to sound nothing like its original form.

Certain electronic music really only makes sense when played on a large rig whilst you're 'under the influence' as well. In a lounge setting it may be pointless, but in a club it all comes together...

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#26 chrisrooR
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Classical.
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#27 poptart
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"] Aphex Twin.poseidonwest
We have a winner!

I would say he makes fairly straightforward music - he used to be able to knock out several tunes in a day no problem. He's talented no doubt - genius to many - but not one recognised for the complexity of his productions...

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#28 -Tish-
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Maybe, but if you listened to some Dream Theater. Progressive metal. The complexity of it is insane.

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As big a Dream Theater fan as I am I have to disagree, at least with all their stuff dating from Train of Thought to present. Images and Words was quite technical, on the other hand. If you wanna talk about insane technical progressive metal, talk BTBAM. Either way, I'm pretty sure jazz is the most complex form of music...
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#29 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]

Electronic. The music itself does not make any sense whatsoever. You need to be extremely talented and innovative in order to produce something amazing. Also, the way they mix stuff, I dunno but it feels different.

poptart

Electronic is a very broad term, however it's much to do with production and sound engineering. Also you can automate a lot of effects with certain tools so what may sound complex may have simply been generated by the program you're using, or even a sample which you can **** around with to sound nothing like its original form.

Certain electronic music really only makes sense when played on a large rig whilst you're 'under the influence' as well. In a lounge setting it may be pointless, but in a club it all comes together...

Well I certainly don't know much about Music and its production and I don't have any experience with clubs, instruments...etc. I really really enjoy Rokysopp and Daft Punk. Royksopp brings something different inside of me.
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Classical really isn't that complex, there might be a lot of preperation to it and a lot of people playing at the same time. But the end result isn't too great

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Huh? What are you talking about? What do you mean the end result isn't too great?

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#31 Bluestorm-Kalas
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Classical music and then death metal.

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#32 Brutal_Elitegs
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Classical really isn't that complex, there might be a lot of preperation to it and a lot of people playing at the same time. But the end result isn't too great

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Classical music spans so many decades and is so varied that it would make the sub-genres of Rock blush, and you seem to be lumping the entire genre together as if what you say for one piece qualifies for another. A lot of classical music is that complex.

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#33 Shmiity
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Well, it depends on your opinion of whats sophisticated.

Baroque/classical/romantic pieces had a huge range of difficulty, so you cant really pin those down. They were hard to play, but the music theory behind them wasn't all that complicated. A lot of composers used the same "tricks".

There are a lot of bands today (atleast that I listen to)thathave sophisticatedarrangements, but aren't technically demanding to play.ex. Radiohead, The Killers...

I consider a piece sophisticated depending on if there are accidentals, chords/notes outside of a key, how the melody works with the harmony... Is the rhythm tricky, isthe harmonymulti-layered ect.

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#34 EolGul2
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Overall it has to be classical or jazz.

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#35 GabuEx
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Classical really isn't that complex, there might be a lot of preperation to it and a lot of people playing at the same time. But the end result isn't too great

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What does how great it is have to do with how complex it is?

It seems rather evident to me that coordinating dozens of instruments to bring them together to make a cohesive whole is most certainly more complex than music with only a few instruments.

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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

Classical really isn't that complex, there might be a lot of preperation to it and a lot of people playing at the same time. But the end result isn't too great

GabuEx

What does how great it is have to do with how complex it is?

It seems rather evident to me that coordinating dozens of instruments to bring them together to make a cohesive whole is most certainly more complex than music with only a few instruments.

+1 as far as musical complexity and technicality jazz and classical really rule the roost.
it is up to the composer to make the song "complex"genre really has nothing to do with it.

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industrial music because it has so many styles to it.

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#38 Shmiity
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[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

Maybe, but if you listened to some Dream Theater. Progressive metal. The complexity of it is insane.

As big a Dream Theater fan as I am I have to disagree, at least with all their stuff dating from Train of Thought to present. Images and Words was quite technical, on the other hand. If you wanna talk about insane technical progressive metal, talk BTBAM. Either way, I'm pretty sure jazz is the most complex form of music...

You see, Jazz is "complicated" because of all the time signature changes and accidentals; but I just dont find a majority of jazz to be all that interesting. From a theory standpoint it is, but in listening it's too much. Going from 4/4 to 7/4 to 6/8 to 12/16 sounds cool on paper, but it just doesnt work for me. I need a verse, a chorus, a bridge, hooks; but Jazz is really just a lot of complicated theory with lead sheets and improvising...
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[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

Maybe, but if you listened to some Dream Theater. Progressive metal. The complexity of it is insane.

Shmiity
As big a Dream Theater fan as I am I have to disagree, at least with all their stuff dating from Train of Thought to present. Images and Words was quite technical, on the other hand. If you wanna talk about insane technical progressive metal, talk BTBAM. Either way, I'm pretty sure jazz is the most complex form of music...

You see, Jazz is "complicated" because of all the time signature changes and accidentals; but I just dont find a majority of jazz to be all that interesting. From a theory standpoint it is, but in listening it's too much. Going from 4/4 to 7/4 to 6/8 to 12/16 sounds cool on paper, but it just doesnt work for me. I need a verse, a chorus, a bridge, hooks; but Jazz is really just a lot of complicated theory with lead sheets and improvising...

I totally agree. I can't stand jazz but I still respect it, if that makes sense. :P
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#40 EolGul2
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com·plex
–adjective

1.
composedofmanyinterconnectedparts;compound;composite:acomplexhighwaysystem.
2.characterizedbyaverycomplicatedorinvolvedarrangementofparts,units,etc.:complexmachinery.

Please explain how a progressive metal song performed by four or five musicians can be more complex than this.

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#41 LoG-Sacrament
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its so obviously classical. its not just the orchestration. some of the most complex music is in quartets and smaller ensembles for chamber music. just the way many good composers develop themes is a lot more complex than the rudimentary verse/chorus format we hear in most pop music (and even the more unknown genres that tout themselves as complex). it often sounds either simple or random because a lot of people simply cant follow what is going on, but there is a lot going on. anybody who claims that complexity is the most important thing in music should be listening to classical.
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Aphex Twin.

THE_DRUGGIE

That's actually "Fairie's Aire and Death Waltz by John Stump".

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Classical really isn't that complex, there might be a lot of preperation to it and a lot of people playing at the same time. But the end result isn't too great

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You're hurting the musical portion of my brain right now.
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#44 Saturos3091
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Maybe, but if you listened to some Dream Theater. Progressive metal. The complexity of it is insane.

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Technical death (the good stuff like Gorguts) makes that stuff look simple.
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#45 freek666
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Noise music because it's not easy making noise sound good.

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#46 DmadFearmonger
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It's a whole lot of similar sounding instruments all playing together. It's all just so similar.

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#47 Symphonycometh
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It's a whole lot of similar sounding instruments all playing together. It's all just so similar.

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Is that avatar of yours a troll like thing?
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Classical really isn't that complex, there might be a lot of preperation to it and a lot of people playing at the same time. But the end result isn't too great

DmadFearmonger

Simple! In every way, clearly the piece is technically easier than chopsticks and musically inferior.

It's a whole lot of similar sounding instruments all playing together. It's all just so similar.

DmadFearmonger

Also, if you think these instruments all sound the same, please get ear dentures (ahha, what a silly though!) and just pray you can hear all this crap.

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#49 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

It's a whole lot of similar sounding instruments all playing together. It's all just so similar.

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Is that avatar of yours a troll like thing?

Its an orc from the cover of warcraft III

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Warcraft. I thought I seen that thing somewhere. lol Thankies.