The government should have no part in the clean up of Sandy.

Whut.

I doubt the private sector would want to waste around $50 billion on that storm.

Poor attempt at satire.

Praise Jebus.

Seriously though this would be the perfect demostration of what works best, Romney's "Every man for himself" strategy versus Obama's "We're all in this together" mantra.

Oh Jebus....................U so CrayZay!

#LibertarianLogic

government should only be there to provide a court system and army hurr durr

Because the government was very efficient during Hurricane Katrina...

It doesn't have to be the private sector, it can also be volunteers and charitable organizations actually helping out and that was the case with Hurricane Katrina. And even then, no business would waste an opportunity not to help out. Not everything is about money, not even to most businesses who happen to be in that area. Before you call this idealism, after Hurricane Katrina, many businesses did help out Louisiana through charity.

Though that doesn't mean the government shouldn't do its part, it's just that during Hurricane Katrina, the response time was weak and the bureaucracy was asinine. It's just a matter of all of us pitching in to help one another instead of just relying on one service during a tragedy.

Edit: So no one remembered the government response during Hurricane Katrina? :? I swear, some of you are narcissist who think society would never help each other out and think the government is the only solution in any problem, small or large.

any help would still be help, wouldn't u say?

We need to regulate these high and low pressures systems so this sort of weather event can't happen again.

Because the government was very efficient during Hurricane Katrina...

It doesn't have to be the private sector, it can also be volunteers and charitable organizations actually helping out and that was the case with Hurricane Katrina. And even then, no business would waste an opportunity not to help out. Not everything is about money, not even to most businesses who happen to be in that area. Before you call this idealism, after Hurricane Katrina, many businesses did help out Louisiana through charity.

Though that doesn't mean the government shouldn't do its part, it's just that during Hurricane Katrina, the response time was weak and the bureaucracy was asinine. It's just a matter of all of us pitching in to help one another instead of just relying on one service during a tragedy.

Edit: So no one remembered the government response during Hurricane Katrina? :? I swear, some of you are narcissist who think society would never help each other out and think the government is the only solution in any problem, small or large.

leviathan91

I thought Sandy was meant to clean up New Jersey.

I thought Sandy was meant to clean up New Jersey.

THE_DRUGGIE

I thought Sandy was meant to clean up New Jersey.

THE_DRUGGIE

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

I thought Sandy was meant to clean up New Jersey.

Sajo7

I think Chris Christie is plumping them up so he can eat them.

I thought Sandy was meant to clean up New Jersey.THE_DRUGGIE

It got Snooki?

Romney's comments last year suggested that the private sector should have the lead on disaster recovery, and if not the private sector, local governments.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/30/context-romneys-comments-fema/

As to the Katrina disaster, the younger bush put someone in charge of FEMA who did not have enough disaster experience to be useful. The general consensus is that FEMA has turned into a good, functional part of the government, and the praise by GOP-wonderchild Chris Christie should be goo enough to show that FEMA has improved a lot post-Katrina.

Romney's comments last year suggested that the private sector should have the lead on disaster recovery, and if not the private sector, local governments.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/30/context-romneys-comments-fema/

As to the Katrina disaster, the younger bush put someone in charge of FEMA who did not have enough disaster experience to be useful. The general consensus is that FEMA has turned into a good, functional part of the government, and the praise by GOP-wonderchild Chris Christie should be goo enough to show that FEMA has improved a lot post-Katrina.

jimkabrhel

A clean up of this magnitude requires both government and private sector. What if the poor poeple need help?

A clean up of this magnitude requires both government and private sector. What if the poor poeple need help?

narlymech

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Romney's comments last year suggested that the private sector should have the lead on disaster recovery, and if not the private sector, local governments.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/30/context-romneys-comments-fema/

As to the Katrina disaster, the younger bush put someone in charge of FEMA who did not have enough disaster experience to be useful. The general consensus is that FEMA has turned into a good, functional part of the government, and the praise by GOP-wonderchild Chris Christie should be goo enough to show that FEMA has improved a lot post-Katrina.

DaBrainz

Because the government was very efficient during Hurricane Katrina...

It doesn't have to be the private sector, it can also be volunteers and charitable organizations actually helping out and that was the case with Hurricane Katrina. And even then, no business would waste an opportunity not to help out. Not everything is about money, not even to most businesses who happen to be in that area. Before you call this idealism, after Hurricane Katrina, many businesses did help out Louisiana through charity.

Though that doesn't mean the government shouldn't do its part, it's just that during Hurricane Katrina, the response time was weak and the bureaucracy was asinine. It's just a matter of all of us pitching in to help one another instead of just relying on one service during a tragedy.

Edit: So no one remembered the government response during Hurricane Katrina? :? I swear, some of you are narcissist who think society would never help each other out and think the government is the only solution in any problem, small or large.

leviathan91

There are certain things the government should do and certain things they shouldn't...

No sane person is saying that there should be no government at all...

You, along with Tenaka, are in the running for dumbest OT poster. Congrats.

I agree. It should be a state issue. Also I hate that FEMA (aka you and me) get to rebuild some millionaires house on the beach. WTF, these people couldnt get standard insurance because no insurance companies would take the risk but FEMA had no problem insuring them so they built there anyways and now you and I get to pay for the rebuild of these mansions. Guess what? The next superstorm that comes through will destroy them again and we will once again have to pay for it. Rinse and repeat. just stupid~

Praise Jebus.

Seriously though this would be the perfect demostration of what works best, Romney's "Every man for himself" strategy versus Obama's "We're all in this together" mantra.

Serraph105

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

Praise Jebus.

Seriously though this would be the perfect demostration of what works best, Romney's "Every man for himself" strategy versus Obama's "We're all in this together" mantra.

DevilMightCry

I agree. It should be a state issue. Also I hate that FEMA (aka you and me) get to rebuild some millionaires house on the beach. WTF, these people couldnt get standard insurance because no insurance companies would take the risk but FEMA had no problem insuring them so they built there anyways and now you and I get to pay for the rebuild of these mansions. Guess what? The next superstorm that comes through will destroy them again and we will once again have to pay for it. Rinse and repeat. just stupid~

GamingTitan

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

Praise Jebus.

Seriously though this would be the perfect demostration of what works best, Romney's "Every man for himself" strategy versus Obama's "We're all in this together" mantra.

DevilMightCry

Sure sounds like that's what he's saying.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

Praise Jebus.

Seriously though this would be the perfect demostration of what works best, Romney's "Every man for himself" strategy versus Obama's "We're all in this together" mantra.

Aljosa23

Sure sounds like that's what he's saying.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

Praise Jebus.

Seriously though this would be the perfect demostration of what works best, Romney's "Every man for himself" strategy versus Obama's "We're all in this together" mantra.

Aljosa23

Sure sounds like that's what he's saying.

Well I guess that is one thing Romney and Libertarians agree on: The government shouldn't be helping people. Ace6301

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Too bad that's not Romney's position.DevilMightCry

Sure sounds like that's what he's saying.

Ask the people of Hoboken or those communities along the Hackensack river if local and state efforts are enough at the moment.

No. What a stupid idea.

The government should do it's duty, as well as the public and help out.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]http://www.businessinsider.com/romney-disaster-relief-immoral-2012-10

Sure sounds like that's what he's saying.

jimkabrhel

Ask the people of Hoboken or those communities along the Hackensack river if local and state efforts are enough at the moment.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Not sure how you can confuse two different issues. One, Romney said local and state governments are more reliable to clean up and help, along the private sector through things as Red Cross and donations. The other way is for federal government to print and borrow money, and assign local and state tasks to federal beaurocracies and agencies. Two completely different things. And FYI, it is the states thay are doing majority of the work at the moment. Romneys way is working just fine.

DevilMightCry

Ask the people of Hoboken or those communities along the Hackensack river if local and state efforts are enough at the moment.

Because those communities have been completely innundated with water, and their local response has been prevented because of the disaster itself. The damage in NJ and NY is so extensive that the state response has been inadequate.

The Army Corps of Engineers has been brought in to pump out the subway tunnels in NYC. Having the President declare a disaster in states allows the use of federal funds, equipment, supplies and manpower to help.

[QUOTE="GamingTitan"]

I agree. It should be a state issue. Also I hate that FEMA (aka you and me) get to rebuild some millionaires house on the beach. WTF, these people couldnt get standard insurance because no insurance companies would take the risk but FEMA had no problem insuring them so they built there anyways and now you and I get to pay for the rebuild of these mansions. Guess what? The next superstorm that comes through will destroy them again and we will once again have to pay for it. Rinse and repeat. just stupid~

-Sun_Tzu-

that's exactly whats going on and what will happen. if I'm wrong then by all means enlighten me~

I thought Sandy was meant to clean up New Jersey.

THE_DRUGGIE

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Ask the people of Hoboken or those communities along the Hackensack river if local and state efforts are enough at the moment.

jimkabrhel

Because those communities have been completely innundated with water, and their local response has been prevented because of the disaster itself. The damage in NJ and NY is so extensive that the state response has been inadequate.

The Army Corps of Engineers has been brought in to pump out the subway tunnels in NYC. Having the President declare a disaster in states allows the use of federal funds, equipment, supplies and manpower to help.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

Praise Jebus.

Seriously though this would be the perfect demostration of what works best, Romney's "Every man for himself" strategy versus Obama's "We're all in this together" mantra.

Serraph105

Because the government was very efficient during Hurricane Katrina...

It doesn't have to be the private sector, it can also be volunteers and charitable organizations actually helping out and that was the case with Hurricane Katrina. And even then, no business would waste an opportunity not to help out. Not everything is about money, not even to most businesses who happen to be in that area. Before you call this idealism, after Hurricane Katrina, many businesses did help out Louisiana through charity.

Though that doesn't mean the government shouldn't do its part, it's just that during Hurricane Katrina, the response time was weak and the bureaucracy was asinine. It's just a matter of all of us pitching in to help one another instead of just relying on one service during a tragedy.

Edit: So no one remembered the government response during Hurricane Katrina? :? I swear, some of you are narcissist who think society would never help each other out and think the government is the only solution in any problem, small or large.

leviathan91

And the businesses who helped out during Katrina still didn't do enough on their own. The lessons of Katrina should not include that the government doesn't have a primary role in disaster relief. -Sun_Tzu-

No. FEMA had a negative impact on the situation. As opposed to simply helping, they harassed individuals who were affected by the storm including many foreigners.Saturos3091

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Well I guess that is one thing Romney and Libertarians agree on: The government shouldn't be helping people. sSubZerOo

It's one of the many Romneys. To everything there is a Romney.

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]No. FEMA had a negative impact on the situation. As opposed to simply helping, they harassed individuals who were affected by the storm including many foreigners.-Sun_Tzu-