Texas Attorney General: Democrats More Dangerous Than Kim Jong Un/NK

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I do like Texas. They're the only state that still has a back bone. They're creating their own gold reserve, and if gold was ever made illegal like in the 1930s they claim the Texas would insure the gold wasn't seized. They also said if Assault rifles were illegal they wouldn't acknowledge federal law. http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/03/21/4721036/tarrant-lawmaker-seeks-to-create.htmlFightingfan

  You see some one with a "back bone".. I see dillusional hypocrites that the moment something doesn't go their way on the federal level (including forcing rights on OTHER states) you see them start screaming "STATE'S RIGHTS!!" at the top of their lungs..  Maybe if they showed some consistency, I could at least respect their stand even if it is in crazy people.. 

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While that statement may be silly, I don't actually see NK as much a threat as is made propaganda of.
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#53 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Mithrandir50"]

Did not picture you as Mexican.

Do you receive a lot of racism down there

 

 

 

 

Mithrandir50

 

When is the last time you've been to Texas?

3 weeks ago Why

 

And how long have you spent living in Texas?  Which parts?  I ask because you seem to have a false perception of Texas.  

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with an increasing Latino population I heard Texas could swing sometime in the next few years, after that forget about electing a Republican presidentlamprey263
I have known many latinos and the majority of them vote republican.
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#55 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]with an increasing Latino population I heard Texas could swing sometime in the next few years, after that forget about electing a Republican presidentLaihendi
I have known many latinos and the majority of them vote republican.

Somehow I highly doubt that......
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]with an increasing Latino population I heard Texas could swing sometime in the next few years, after that forget about electing a Republican presidentLJS9502_basic
I have known many latinos and the majority of them vote republican.

Somehow I highly doubt that......

However I am going by the 2004 election as I have not known any latinos in several years.
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] I have known many latinos and the majority of them vote republican.

Somehow I highly doubt that......

However I am going by the 2004 election as I have not known any latinos in several years.

Ah, right. Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them switched to Dear Leader in 2008.
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#58 yellosnolvr
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both parties are the biggest enemies to america and our sacred 'freedom' he's part of the cancer, too.
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#59 Mithrandir50
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[QUOTE="Mithrandir50"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

When is the last time you've been to Texas?

hartsickdiscipl

3 weeks ago Why

 

And how long have you spent living in Texas?  Which parts?  I ask because you seem to have a false perception of Texas.  

Dallas. Never lived there
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#60 frannkzappa
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The entire party system is a cancer on this country.

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#61 Yusuke420
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[QUOTE="Mithrandir50"] Dallas. Never lived theremastershake575

I live in DFW and dallas is hit or miss (west dallas, north dallas/preston hollow, and majority of lakehighlands are all pretty nice). Most of the surrounding cities such as plano, highland park, allen, richardson, farmers branch, addison, and lewisville are all great places to live

I live in South DFW and in the country people are pretty civil for the most part. You get the occational guy that feels it's appropraite to dress in the stars and bars.

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#62 hartsickdiscipl
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The entire party system is a cancer on this country.

frannkzappa

 

Wow.  We agree on something.  

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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]with an increasing Latino population I heard Texas could swing sometime in the next few years, after that forget about electing a Republican presidentLaihendi
I have known many latinos and the majority of them vote republican.

republican I am not too sure about

but hispanics definitely favor socially conservative choices due to being hardcore catholics

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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]with an increasing Latino population I heard Texas could swing sometime in the next few years, after that forget about electing a Republican presidentmrbojangles25

I have known many latinos and the majority of them vote republican.

republican I am not too sure about

but hispanics definitely favor socially conservative choices due to being hardcore catholics

Bingo. That's what Republicans were referring to when they said, after the election, that Hispanics were a voting block that they felt should be theirs.
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#65 MakeMeaSammitch
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Not exactly the wording that I would have used.  He's basically right though.  

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Coming from a nut job....

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#66 MakeMeaSammitch
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The entire party system is a cancer on this country.

frannkzappa

countries with multiple parties see even more issues.

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#67 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] I have known many latinos and the majority of them vote republican.mattbbpl

republican I am not too sure about

but hispanics definitely favor socially conservative choices due to being hardcore catholics

Bingo. That's what Republicans were referring to when they said, after the election, that Hispanics were a voting block that they felt should be theirs.

same with African Americans.  Its been argued that Prop 8 passed in California largely in part due to our large hispanic and black population.

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

The entire party system is a cancer on this country.

MakeMeaSammitch

countries with multiple parties see even more issues.

that's my point.

party=bad

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#69 MakeMeaSammitch
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[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

The entire party system is a cancer on this country.

frannkzappa

countries with multiple parties see even more issues.

that's my point.

party=bad

u want a single party like japan?

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]countries with multiple parties see even more issues.

MakeMeaSammitch

that's my point.

party=bad

u want a single party like japan?

I would prefer a non-party highly authoritarion technocratic meritocracy (with a heavy emphasis on the technocracy).

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Texas and California. Every other state bends over and takes it. Fightingfan
California doesn't bend over?
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#72 MakeMeaSammitch
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[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

that's my point.

party=bad

frannkzappa

u want a single party like japan?

I would prefer a non-party highly authoritarion technocratic meritocracy (with a heavy emphasis on the technocracy).

 

technocratic?

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]u want a single party like japan?

MakeMeaSammitch

I would prefer a non-party highly authoritarion technocratic meritocracy (with a heavy emphasis on the technocracy).

technocratic?

rule of the best qualified.

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[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

that's my point.

party=bad

frannkzappa

u want a single party like japan?

I would prefer a non-party highly authoritarion technocratic meritocracy (with a heavy emphasis on the technocracy).

What's stopping the best from being recruited from the higher classes or rules that keep power to the elite? Perhaps rich kids who end up being groomed from childhood to become leaders of the country, and thus, having the best qualifications.
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#77 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]u want a single party like japan?

hiphops_savior

I would prefer a non-party highly authoritarion technocratic meritocracy (with a heavy emphasis on the technocracy).

What's stopping the best from being recruited from the higher classes or rules that keep power to the elite? Perhaps rich kids who end up being groomed from childhood to become leaders of the country, and thus, having the best qualifications.

Hopefully an extremely well funded public education system as well as the banning of any private educational system below the university level.

Also the technocratic system is very anti-old money.

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[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

I would prefer a non-party highly authoritarion technocratic meritocracy (with a heavy emphasis on the technocracy).

frannkzappa

technocratic?

rule of the best qualified.

Is this a joke? How is being proficient with a specific branch of technical knowledge make you qualified to rule the lives of others by force? There is no logical connection.
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#79 MakeMeaSammitch
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]technocratic?

Laihendi

rule of the best qualified.

Is this a joke? How is being proficient with a specific branch of technical knowledge make you qualified to rule the lives of others by force? There is no logical connection.

Greater intelligence -> better ruler.

seems logical to me.

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#80 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

rule of the best qualified.

MakeMeaSammitch

Is this a joke? How is being proficient with a specific branch of technical knowledge make you qualified to rule the lives of others by force? There is no logical connection.

Greater intelligence -> better ruler.

seems logical to me.

Are you deliberately ignoring the fact that many of the most vicious and violent dictators/rulers in human history have also been exceptionally intelligent? Great intelligence does not make someone fit to rule if they use that intelligence for evil and destructive purposes.
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#81 MakeMeaSammitch
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[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] Is this a joke? How is being proficient with a specific branch of technical knowledge make you qualified to rule the lives of others by force? There is no logical connection.Laihendi

Greater intelligence -> better ruler.

seems logical to me.

Are you deliberately ignoring the fact that many of the most vicious and violent dictators/rulers in human history have also been exceptionally intelligent? Great intelligence does not make someone fit to rule if they use that intelligence for evil and destructive purposes.

on average they're going to be better rulers.

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#82 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]Greater intelligence -> better ruler.

seems logical to me.

MakeMeaSammitch

Are you deliberately ignoring the fact that many of the most vicious and violent dictators/rulers in human history have also been exceptionally intelligent? Great intelligence does not make someone fit to rule if they use that intelligence for evil and destructive purposes.

on average they're going to be better rulers.

Yes on average an intelligent man will be more competent ruling than an idiot. What is your point? No one is advocating having the mentally disabled become authoritarian dictators. Someone being knowledgeable within a specific discipline is no reason for him to rule the lives of others. There is no logical connection between that. You argument exists on the assumption that there has to be a ruler, that people cannot be allowed to be free to live their own lives without coercion (or the threat of it). Technocracy is just another excuse to hold a gun to someone's head.
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#83 worlock77
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] I have known many latinos and the majority of them vote republican.Laihendi
Somehow I highly doubt that......

However I am going by the 2004 election as I have not known any latinos in several years.

How old were you in 2004? 8? 9?

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#84 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]Greater intelligence -> better ruler.

seems logical to me.

MakeMeaSammitch

Are you deliberately ignoring the fact that many of the most vicious and violent dictators/rulers in human history have also been exceptionally intelligent? Great intelligence does not make someone fit to rule if they use that intelligence for evil and destructive purposes.

on average they're going to be better rulers.

And you can cite a correlation?
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"] The alt-right is a pretty broad movement. Lots of them seem to have sympathy for a meritocratic ruling elite. Those are the people to try and sell technocracy to, not people in the center, and certainly not the left.Rhazakna

Who says i was trying to?

besides my economic prefs are based off biases and circumstance not my ideals. i generally don't mention economics because it has little to do with my agenda. the economy is something to be decided only after the technocratic government is in power and thus the proper experts can determine what is best for the country. i wouldn't support anyone who still affiliates with a party after coming to power, and i don't think many partied officials will be willing to give up their support network and delegate their jobs to experts.

I didn't say anything about economics, though your idea that the experts can just decide what to do betrays a vast ignorance of what economics even is.

i never meant that "experts" (bad term i know) would be able to solve all our problems, i simply meant that it would be much more efficient to have a fluid system which could be altered based on what people who have been in the economic field (of many different studies and opinions) feel might work given an economic situation. Of cource even among professionals there will be disagreements and debates and a certain amount of trial and error.

essentialy what i'm saying is cut out the middle man (parties and politicians) and let the people with knowledge in the field figure out the solution (much as they already are).

however i do concede that economic policy is easily the weakest link in the technocratic system.

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#86 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Somehow I highly doubt that......worlock77

However I am going by the 2004 election as I have not known any latinos in several years.

How old were you in 2004? 8? 9?

I have stated that I voted in the 2012 election so that means I was at least 10 during the 2004 election.
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#87 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] However I am going by the 2004 election as I have not known any latinos in several years.Laihendi

How old were you in 2004? 8? 9?

I have stated that I voted in the 2012 election so that means I was at least 10 during the 2004 election.

At least? Don't you know?
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#88 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] However I am going by the 2004 election as I have not known any latinos in several years.Laihendi

How old were you in 2004? 8? 9?

I have stated that I voted in the 2012 election so that means I was at least 10 during the 2004 election.

And at 10 how in tune could you possibly be with the voting trends of Hispanic voters?

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[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] Are you deliberately ignoring the fact that many of the most vicious and violent dictators/rulers in human history have also been exceptionally intelligent? Great intelligence does not make someone fit to rule if they use that intelligence for evil and destructive purposes.Laihendi

on average they're going to be better rulers.

Yes on average an intelligent man will be more competent ruling than an idiot. What is your point? No one is advocating having the mentally disabled become authoritarian dictators. Someone being knowledgeable within a specific discipline is no reason for him to rule the lives of others. There is no logical connection between that. You argument exists on the assumption that there has to be a ruler, that people cannot be allowed to be free to live their own lives without coercion (or the threat of it). Technocracy is just another excuse to hold a gun to someone's head.

Well in the system i support the federal government while being several magnitudes larger and more powerful will lack a point of centralized power, thus removing most of the possibility of a tyrant (i do not advocate tyrants). legislative decisions will be made by small groups of trained professionals who only have power in their own field. this system would completely remove the idea of popular elections. For example only economists have any say in matters of the economy, only medical professionals will have any say on medical legislation and only experienced and proven military officials will be able to vote on military matters.

This system aims to remove both the common man and the politician (as well as politics) from government.

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This system aims to remove both the common man and the politician (as well as politics) from government.

frannkzappa

I'm no polisci major, but somehow "removing politics from government" sounds kind of like "removing salt water from the ocean."

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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

This system aims to remove both the common man and the politician (as well as politics) from government.

PannicAtack

I'm no polisci major, but somehow "removing politics from government" sounds kind of like "removing salt water from the ocean."

I never said it would be easy.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

This system aims to remove both the common man and the politician (as well as politics) from government.

frannkzappa

I'm no polisci major, but somehow "removing politics from government" sounds kind of like "removing salt water from the ocean."

I never said it would be easy.

 

 

Easy hell, it does not sound humanly possible.

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#93 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]I'm no polisci major, but somehow "removing politics from government" sounds kind of like "removing salt water from the ocean."

worlock77

I never said it would be easy.

Easy hell, it does not sound humanly possible.

It's attitudes like that which have been keeping humanity down for millenia.

I for one am not satisfied with mediocrity.

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The political class as a whole (not just Dems) are absolutely more of a threat to Americans than Kim Jong Un
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]with an increasing Latino population I heard Texas could swing sometime in the next few years, after that forget about electing a Republican presidentLaihendi
I have known many latinos and the majority of them vote republican.

Latinos vote Democrat, historically, even when Reps push for immigration reform. Bush was the exception, and even then the support wasn't overwhelming.
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The political class as a whole (not just Dems) are absolutely more of a threat to Americans than Kim Jong UnRhazakna

I've been saying that for 5 pages. -.-

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#97 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]on average they're going to be better rulers.

frannkzappa

Yes on average an intelligent man will be more competent ruling than an idiot. What is your point? No one is advocating having the mentally disabled become authoritarian dictators. Someone being knowledgeable within a specific discipline is no reason for him to rule the lives of others. There is no logical connection between that. You argument exists on the assumption that there has to be a ruler, that people cannot be allowed to be free to live their own lives without coercion (or the threat of it). Technocracy is just another excuse to hold a gun to someone's head.

Well in the system i support the federal government while being several magnitudes larger and more powerful will lack a point of centralized power, thus removing most of the possibility of a tyrant (i do not advocate tyrants). legislative decisions will be made by small groups of trained professionals who only have power in their own field. this system would completely remove the idea of popular elections. For example only economists have any say in matters of the economy, only medical professionals will have any say on medical legislation and only experienced and proven military officials will be able to vote on military matters.

This system aims to remove both the common man and the politician (as well as politics) from government.

So if you have a better understanding of economics then your neighbor, you have a right to control his finances? If you have a better understanding of medicine, then you have a right to determine what drugs/vaccines he is forced to take? There is no logical connection between knowledge within a discipline and authority to control someone's life. Those are two completely different things that are not relevant to each other at all. Again, this is just another excuse to control someone at the point of a gun.
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#98 worlock77
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I never said it would be easy.

 

 

frannkzappa

Easy hell, it does not sound humanly possible.

It's attitudes like that which have been keeping humanity down for millenia.

 

I for one am not satisfied with mediocrity.

Right, since I don't have unrealistic expectations about removing politics from government (especially massive governments), then I obviously like mediocrity. :roll:

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#99 Rhazakna
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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]The political class as a whole (not just Dems) are absolutely more of a threat to Americans than Kim Jong Unfrannkzappa

I've been saying that for 5 pages. -.-

Yeah, but you're an openly admitted fascist, so who cares?
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#100 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Easy hell, it does not sound humanly possible.

worlock77

It's attitudes like that which have been keeping humanity down for millenia.

I for one am not satisfied with mediocrity.

Right, since I don't have unrealistic expectations about removing politics from government (especially massive governments), then I obviously like mediocrity. :roll:

Didn't say that. What i meant was that if you arent willing to work for your ideals (yours may be different, and thats fine) then you are doomed to mediocrity.