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#1 Posted by michaelP4 (16680 posts) -
BBC News: A man has died and two are injured after police responded to a reported machete attack in south-east London. 1744: Nick Robinson Political editor This is being treated as a serious terrorist attack by Islamist extremists on the streets of Britain. 1741: Nick Robinson Political editor Senior Whitehall sources have told the BBC the Woolwich attackers are thought to have tried to film their attack whilst shouting "Allahu Akbar" - God is Great. The men were said to have been of Muslim appearance. Just heard about this now. Government has called an emergency meeting.
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#2 Posted by ferrari2001 (17772 posts) -
An Emergency meeting because of a machete attack? Only in London I suppose.
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#3 Posted by michaelP4 (16680 posts) -
An Emergency meeting because of a machete attack? Only in London I suppose. ferrari2001
Well yeah, the government has a responsibility to protect its people... not every day in the UK you have somebody randomly attacking another person with a machete.
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#4 Posted by PcGamingRig (7386 posts) -

wasn't the guy attacked a soldier wearing a help for heroes shirt? that is what it said earlier.

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#5 Posted by michaelP4 (16680 posts) -
Yeah, that's what happened. Truly disgusting.
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#6 Posted by ferrari2001 (17772 posts) -
[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]An Emergency meeting because of a machete attack? Only in London I suppose. michaelP4
Well yeah, the government has a responsibility to protect its people... not every day in the UK you have somebody randomly attacking another person with a machete.

And why does the government need an emergency meeting. Can't the police just arrest the guy and be done with it. What are they going to do, legislate Machete's?
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#7 Posted by michaelP4 (16680 posts) -
Obviously not. Could be more planned attacks on the way, info etc. I'd rather have the government meeting about it instead of just sitting around.
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#8 Posted by Zaibach (13466 posts) -

and the cycle of hate and fear continues

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#9 Posted by ferrari2001 (17772 posts) -
Obviously not. Could be more planned attacks on the way, info etc. I'd rather have the government meeting about it instead of just sitting around.michaelP4
governments don't do anything though. They meet, they talk, they come up with some law that does nothing, and then go home patting themselves on the back. I fail to see what the government could possibly do that the police and nation security forces can't do better.
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#10 Posted by Leejjohno (14090 posts) -

Just saw a video of it on the news. They literally stood there proud as punch until the police arrived. I hope they die slow and painful deaths.

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#11 Posted by Netherscourge (16364 posts) -

BBC News: A man has died and two are injured after police responded to a reported machete attack in south-east London. 1744: Nick Robinson Political editor This is being treated as a serious terrorist attack by Islamist extremists on the streets of Britain. 1741: Nick Robinson Political editor Senior Whitehall sources have told the BBC the Woolwich attackers are thought to have tried to film their attack whilst shouting "Allahu Akbar" - God is Great. The men were said to have been of Muslim appearance. Just heard about this now. Government has called an emergency meeting.michaelP4

 

Had he used a GUN, I'm guessing a dozen people would have been injured and/or killed.

Thank goodness for gun laws over there.

 

Yes, I'm using this as an example of why gun laws/restrictions are a good thing - to prevent psychos from doing more damage.

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#12 Posted by BossPerson (9177 posts) -

stay classy muslims

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#13 Posted by Leejjohno (14090 posts) -

[QUOTE="michaelP4"]BBC News: A man has died and two are injured after police responded to a reported machete attack in south-east London. 1744: Nick Robinson Political editor This is being treated as a serious terrorist attack by Islamist extremists on the streets of Britain. 1741: Nick Robinson Political editor Senior Whitehall sources have told the BBC the Woolwich attackers are thought to have tried to film their attack whilst shouting "Allahu Akbar" - God is Great. The men were said to have been of Muslim appearance. Just heard about this now. Government has called an emergency meeting.Netherscourge

 

Had he used a GUN, I'm guessing a dozen people who have been injured and/or killed.

Thank goodness for gun laws over there.

Well that's just it. They stood there and tried to justify their actions to a crowd of people.

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#14 Posted by Yusuke420 (2770 posts) -

Just saw a video of it on the news. They literally stood there proud as punch until the police arrived. I hope they die slow and painful deaths.

Leejjohno

While revenge isn't the answer, I hope they get the trial and sentance portion over with fairly quickly. 

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#15 Posted by Leejjohno (14090 posts) -

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Just saw a video of it on the news. They literally stood there proud as punch until the police arrived. I hope they die slow and painful deaths.

Yusuke420

While revenge isn't the answer, I hope they get the trial and sentance portion over with fairly quickly. 

Dude, they hacked some guy to death for no other reason than the T-shirt he was wearing supports veterans. Fight fire with fire. 

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#16 Posted by Yusuke420 (2770 posts) -

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Just saw a video of it on the news. They literally stood there proud as punch until the police arrived. I hope they die slow and painful deaths.

Leejjohno

While revenge isn't the answer, I hope they get the trial and sentance portion over with fairly quickly. 

Dude, they hacked some guy to death for no other reason than the T-shirt he was wearing supports veterans. Fight fire with fire. 

Why so then the families of those people can also become violent? Vengance is a never ending cycle, don't fall into that trap. 

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#17 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10644 posts) -
People only care about terrorist attacks only if they happen in the US.
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#18 Posted by PWSteal_Ldpinch (1172 posts) -

And why does the government need an emergency meeting. Can't the police just arrest the guy and be done with it. What are they going to do, legislate Machete's? ferrari2001
Authorities have a different approach for crimes that are considered hate crimes. For example, a woman in london was jailed for 41 weeks for saying racist things on a bus.

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#19 Posted by Leejjohno (14090 posts) -

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"] While revenge isn't the answer, I hope they get the trial and sentance portion over with fairly quickly. 

Yusuke420

Dude, they hacked some guy to death for no other reason than the T-shirt he was wearing supports veterans. Fight fire with fire. 

Why so then the families of those people can also become violent? Vengance is a never ending cycle, don't fall into that trap. 

It's called making an example. Getting to spend the rest of your life in some cushy jail is not comeuppance.

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#20 Posted by CHOASXIII (14696 posts) -

People only care about terrorist attacks only if they happen in the US.Nengo_Flow

You're darn straight. 

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#21 Posted by Yusuke420 (2770 posts) -

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Dude, they hacked some guy to death for no other reason than the T-shirt he was wearing supports veterans. Fight fire with fire. 

Leejjohno

Why so then the families of those people can also become violent? Vengance is a never ending cycle, don't fall into that trap. 

It's called making an example. Getting to spend the rest of your life in some cushy jail is not comeuppance.

Jail is cushy? Also we have been bombing arab countries for over a decade now and it hasn't worked as a "deterrent" what makes you think an execution will? You're just trying to appeal to the base desire of revenge and you're better then that!

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#22 Posted by daabulls23 (1223 posts) -

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

[QUOTE="michaelP4"]BBC News: A man has died and two are injured after police responded to a reported machete attack in south-east London. 1744: Nick Robinson Political editor This is being treated as a serious terrorist attack by Islamist extremists on the streets of Britain. 1741: Nick Robinson Political editor Senior Whitehall sources have told the BBC the Woolwich attackers are thought to have tried to film their attack whilst shouting "Allahu Akbar" - God is Great. The men were said to have been of Muslim appearance. Just heard about this now. Government has called an emergency meeting.Leejjohno

 

Had he used a GUN, I'm guessing a dozen people who have been injured and/or killed.

Thank goodness for gun laws over there.

Well that's just it. They stood there and tried to justify their actions to a crowd of people.

That's really weird. They still had weapons in their hands, they just didn't use them. It's like they wanted to target one person and that was it.

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#23 Posted by MushroomWig (11625 posts) -
Okay, I'm happy this isn't as bad as the title makes it out to be.
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#24 Posted by Ace6301 (21389 posts) -

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Dude, they hacked some guy to death for no other reason than the T-shirt he was wearing supports veterans. Fight fire with fire. 

Leejjohno

Why so then the families of those people can also become violent? Vengance is a never ending cycle, don't fall into that trap. 

It's called making an example. Getting to spend the rest of your life in some cushy jail is not comeuppance.

Except "making an example" never seems to work. Also the whole innocent people being killed and being more expensive than regular confinement.
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#25 Posted by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

Oh, that's lovely...

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#26 Posted by Masculus (2878 posts) -

Multiculturalism at it's finest.

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#27 Posted by PcGamingRig (7386 posts) -

can you imagine if terrorists decided to just carry out small attacks like that on a daily basis? it would be pretty hard to pick them up beforehand.

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#28 Posted by mrbojangles25 (44363 posts) -

misleading title...

sad, dont get me wrong.  But I was worried it was something major.

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#29 Posted by LJS9502_basic (167113 posts) -
Why don't they just arrest them?
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#30 Posted by michaelP4 (16680 posts) -

misleading title...

sad, dont get me wrong.  But I was worried it was something major.

mrbojangles25
No it's not. The authorities consider this a terrorist attack. Just because only one person died doesn't mean it's not. Terrorist attacks happen all the time and doesn't always result in the deaths of people. Terrorists seek to spread fear and anxiety - not to necessarily kill people.
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#31 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13799 posts) -

Not too long ago in San Jose a homeless guy with a samurai sword killed a homeless woman.  The police arrested the guy.  No national emergency was called.

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#32 Posted by lamprey263 (36204 posts) -
seems less organized, probably organically sprouted out of the situation in Sweden, not through some terrorist network
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#33 Posted by zeroyaoi (2472 posts) -
Human beings can be downright disgusting.
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#34 Posted by michaelP4 (16680 posts) -

Not too long ago in San Jose a homeless guy with a samurai sword killed a homeless woman.  The police arrested the guy.  No national emergency was called.

GummiRaccoon
You should do further reading. ITV News has more in-depth coverage. This isn't just a personal attack. It was an attack on Britain, British society and values. The man that was killed there was killed for political reasons. I'm sure the government is not just having a meet for the fun of it. Could be more attacks like this being planned. And while this may not be big news in America, it's all over UK news channels.
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#35 Posted by darklight4 (2092 posts) -

They deserve worse than jail time but they will learn the true definition of butthurt don't drop the soap now.

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#36 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13799 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Not too long ago in San Jose a homeless guy with a samurai sword killed a homeless woman.  The police arrested the guy.  No national emergency was called.

michaelP4

You should do further reading. ITV News has more in-depth coverage. This isn't just a personal attack. It was an attack on Britain, British society and values. The man that was killed there was killed for political reasons. I'm sure the government is not just having a meet for the fun of it. Could be more attacks like this being planned. And while this may not be big news in America, it's all over UK news channels.

Congrats on letting the terrorists win.

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#37 Posted by BossPerson (9177 posts) -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keZFXWm3XC8 crazy
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#38 Posted by Bucked20 (6651 posts) -
So every time a Muslim kills someone its a damn terrorist attack,foh
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#40 Posted by SPBoss (3746 posts) -
It looks like a meat cleaver.. not a machete
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#41 Posted by Born_Lucky (1730 posts) -

Okay England . . you know what to do now right?

Apologize to the muslims and let a million more of them into your country.

That strategy seems to be working well for you.

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#42 Posted by THE_DRUGGIE (25082 posts) -

If he had a gun, this wouldn't have happened.

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#43 Posted by thebest31406 (3775 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Not too long ago in San Jose a homeless guy with a samurai sword killed a homeless woman.  The police arrested the guy.  No national emergency was called.

michaelP4

You should do further reading. ITV News has more in-depth coverage. This isn't just a personal attack. It was an attack on Britain, British society and values. The man that was killed there was killed for political reasons. I'm sure the government is not just having a meet for the fun of it. Could be more attacks like this being planned. And while this may not be big news in America, it's all over UK news channels.

Well, I'd imagine that all of the knife related attacks in London are attacks on society. Why is this one unique? The weapon that was used? The victim? The man who wield the weapon?

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#44 Posted by mrbojangles25 (44363 posts) -

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misleading title...

sad, dont get me wrong.  But I was worried it was something major.

michaelP4

No it's not. The authorities consider this a terrorist attack. Just because only one person died doesn't mean it's not. Terrorist attacks happen all the time and doesn't always result in the deaths of people. Terrorists seek to spread fear and anxiety - not to necessarily kill people.

Technically I suppose you are correct, but by overusing the word "terrorist" and all associated words for such relatively petty crimes, we diminish their meaning.

This was a murder.  Murder is motivated by all manner of different things.  Religion, lust, money, greed...the list goes on.  So the guys were Arab or Muslim...does that make it an act of terror? Does a white man killing a black man make it a hate crime?  I don't think so, but that's just my two cents.

Likewise, murderers also spread fear.  Summer of Sam ring a bell? Or what about when a murder occurs in a small town, and it is a day or two before they catch the guy? Terrorism, or a murder?

I just feel that "Terrorism" requires a certain grandness to it.  I know that is not really an appropriate word, but if the attack is not orchestrated by an organization with a clear goal, funding, political structure, and instills a sense of fear and terror not just in the immediate area, but in most of the world.

This did nothing of the sort.  I feel bad for the victims, obviously, but do I feel afraid? No.

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#45 Posted by TruthTellers (3393 posts) -
The peaceful religion strikes again.
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#46 Posted by Blaze787 (534 posts) -

Europe, Australia, and North America seriously need to re-think their policies on Islamic immigration.  It's way past time.

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#47 Posted by The_Gaming_Baby (6406 posts) -

That ITV footage was rather chilling. The way he spoke so calmly as his hands shined red with blood. There are some things the mind will never forget and that is one of them

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#48 Posted by clyde46 (49061 posts) -
From what I'm hearing, the man in question was shouting religious things etc, also they moved to attack the police as soon as they arrived.
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#49 Posted by SPBoss (3746 posts) -
The peaceful religion strikes again.TruthTellers
Sorry but killing innocents is definitely not permitted in Islam, maybe you should get your head out of Fox News' ass and think for yourself
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#50 Posted by gamerguru100 (12717 posts) -

And Europe will continue to bring in undesirables from the Middle East in the name of so-called "diversity" and multiculturalism. When will they learn?