Terminator vs. Terminator 2. Which is better?

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Posted by Behardy24 (5324 posts) 3 years, 11 months ago

Poll: Terminator vs. Terminator 2. Which is better? (61 votes)

The Terminator 34%
The Terminator 2: Judgement Day 66%

Just re-watched both these movies this week and I'm trying to decide which is better and I need some of your guys opinions. So, which one do you think is better overall? What are your reasons?

Thanks for the responses in advance. :)

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#1 Posted by airshocker (31700 posts) -

I think T2 is better. Just personal preference, though. Nothing is wrong with the first one, I just liked the second one much better.

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#2 Edited by comp_atkins (35150 posts) -

hmmmm. tough one. i probably like t2 more due to better effects and lack of 80's cheesiness, but it's a close race

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#3 Posted by Stranger_36 (611 posts) -

Terminator 2.

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#4 Edited by br0kenrabbit (15369 posts) -

T2, because that nuke scene was the bomb.

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#5 Posted by chessmaster1989 (30204 posts) -

@comp_atkins said:

hmmmm. tough one. i probably like t2 more due to better effects and lack of 80's cheesiness, but it's a close race

Yeah but the 80s cheesiness is part of what makes T1 great.

I think I give the edge to T2 but they're both great.

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#7 Posted by airshocker (31700 posts) -

Someone just had to vote for one to be edgy. I was looking forward to OT agreeing on a subject for once.

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#8 Posted by Master_Live (19035 posts) -

I like T2 better. Because when that thumb goes up, I get something in my eye.

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#9 Posted by MrGeezer (59551 posts) -

Terminator 2 was technically better (visual effects, sound, pacing, etc), but it was also a completely unnecessary sequel and also took a giant shit on the first movie's rules. As a movie, Terminator 2 was better, but it sucked ass as a sequel and it set the stage for Hollywood continually fucking up the narrative universe until it made zero sense.

Don't get me wrong, Terminator 2 was an excellently crafted action movie and one of the best demonstrations of James Cameron's talent. I just hate it as a Terminator sequel, and I wish it had been some kind of spiritual successor to The Terminator instead of a straight sequel. The Terminator franchise (movies only, I haven't paid any attention to the other stuff) has been trash for a while. And when I look at what went wrong, a good number of things were started right in Terminator 2.

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#10 Posted by Behardy24 (5324 posts) -

@airshocker said:

Someone just had to vote for one to be edgy. I was looking forward to OT agreeing on a subject for once.

I'm thinking about voting about Terminator 1, I'm leaning towards there heavily but I'm trying to see "the light" in T2. (Not saying that T2 is a bad movie by itself, but compare to the first one I think T1 is better)

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#11 Edited by Behardy24 (5324 posts) -

@Master_Live said:

I like T2 better. Because when that thumb goes up, I get something in my eye.

I too had something in my eye. :P

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#12 Edited by uninspiredcup (27689 posts) -

Terminator 2, primarily for the running.

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#13 Posted by MrGeezer (59551 posts) -

@behardy24 said:

@airshocker said:

Someone just had to vote for one to be edgy. I was looking forward to OT agreeing on a subject for once.

I'm thinking about voting about Terminator 1, I'm leaning towards there heavily but I'm trying to see "the light" in T2. (Not saying that T2 is a bad movie by itself, but compare to the first one I think T1 is better)

I still haven't voted yet. I want to vote for The Terminator really badly because I love it so much and there's just so much about T2 that I dislike.

But on the other hand, I just can't ignore how accomplished T2 actually was (even if there's so much stuff that I hate about it). It really comes down to whether I'm judging T2 as a movie, or if I'm judging T2 as a TERMINATOR movie. And I haven't quite decided which way I'm gonna go yet.

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#14 Posted by indzman (27735 posts) -

@Stranger_36 said:

Terminator 2.

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#15 Posted by Behardy24 (5324 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

Terminator 2, primarily for the running.

That gif really messed up my eyes and mind for a couple of seconds of staring. :P

But anyway, that running scene was pretty cool.

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5b19214ec908b (25072 posts) -

@comp_atkins said:

hmmmm. tough one. i probably like t2 more due to better effects and lack of 80's cheesiness, but it's a close race

Is 90's cheesiness really any better?

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#17 Posted by Serraph105 (32573 posts) -

I voted Terminator 1 because I remember begging my parents to let me see it when I was in pre-school. For god knows reason why they agreed and it scared the ever loving piss out of me.

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#18 Posted by airshocker (31700 posts) -

@Serraph105 said:

I voted Terminator 1 because I remember begging my parents to let me see it when I was in pre-school. For god knows reason why they agreed and it scared the ever loving piss out of me.

I bet you cried like a little girl when they took you home.

I remember my Mom took me to see The Cable Guy when it first came out and I didn't sleep well for a week.

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#19 Posted by MrGeezer (59551 posts) -

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@comp_atkins said:

hmmmm. tough one. i probably like t2 more due to better effects and lack of 80's cheesiness, but it's a close race

Is 90's cheesiness really any better?

I think that's a silly complaint too. I mean, it's a time travel movie. The specific time period obviously ought to be recognizable and have its own identity. Complaining about 8o's cheese is kind of silly. It was set in the 80's and the 80's were cheesy. If I made a time travel movie where a character traveled back to the 1930's, would the 1930's cheese be a valid complaint?

The Terminator took place in the 80's, so it ought to look like the 80's. Terminator 2 took place in the 90's, so it ought to look like the 90's. Both movies succeeded pretty well in that regard, so good for them.

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#20 Edited by sukraj (27765 posts) -

@Iszdope said:

The Terminator.

It's my favourite movie.

It's my favourite Terminator movie too.

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#22 Posted by sukraj (27765 posts) -

@Iszdope said:

@sukraj said:

@Iszdope said:

The Terminator.

It's my favourite movie.

It's my favourite Terminator movie too.

Nice one.

you posting from work?

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#25 Posted by Senor_Kami (8529 posts) -

Terminator is a good movie. T2 is an amazing one.

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#26 Posted by deactivated-5b1e62582e305 (30778 posts) -

The first one by far. Not a big fan of T2.

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#27 Posted by MlauTheDaft (5189 posts) -

T2. It ups the ante, has better production values and is more entertaining.

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#28 Posted by jaykowalski (25 posts) -

Terminator 2, mostly because of memes :D

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#29 Posted by deactivated-5ac102a4472fe (7431 posts) -

Overall I find T2 to be better, it is more cheesy but the story is told better and the actors overall seemed to do better. Production values were also way up there (elthough that does not make a movie good, just gives a good first impression).

I like the theme of T1 more, and I think It would have the potential to be the better movie, if it was made with as much care as T2

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#30 Edited by MirkoS77 (13195 posts) -

I much prefer the first. It's concise, laser focused, the pacing is perfect, editing flawless, dialogue perfect, and the acting is spot on. I love that it had a slasher/horror type vibe to it. I know many would disagree, but I consider it to be Cameron's finest work so far (followed closely by Aliens). Nothing about it felt superfluous. It just feels to me what a film needs.

T2 on the other hand was just not necessary. As an action movie it was decent, but personally i found the whole "robot protector" to be far too absurd a notion to buy into. "I know now why you cry". I mean, c'mon. Infiltration unit. Heartless killing machine. A TERMINATOR. In the first movie, Arnold portrayed death. No emotion, that thing had one mission and one mission only. It couldn't be bargained with, it couldn't be reasoned with, It didn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it did not stop, EVER, until you are DEAD!! **** yea. Not cyborg Mr. Rodgers by the end of the movie because they found a way to turn on its chip so he could "learn not to be such a dork all the time". Hell, Furlong made that movie suffer enough. Awful casting choice for a future leader.

Anyway I don't want to get on a long rant. T2 was a fun ride, but I don't consider it to be a superior film.

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#31 Edited by Serraph105 (32573 posts) -

@airshocker said:

@Serraph105 said:

I voted Terminator 1 because I remember begging my parents to let me see it when I was in pre-school. For god knows reason why they agreed and it scared the ever loving piss out of me.

I bet you cried like a little girl when they took you home.

I remember my Mom took me to see The Cable Guy when it first came out and I didn't sleep well for a week.

I don't remember if I cried, but this was a rental so it was at home. Apparently Terminator is too intense for a......I think I was four or five at the time.

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#32 Posted by Serraph105 (32573 posts) -

@MirkoS77:

It's interesting you bring up Aliens. I consider the first two Alien and Terminator movies to follow the same structure. The first one is a horror slasher flick, and the second one is more of an action movie. That's about where the similarities end however I can't help, but feel like James Cameron saw the winning combination of the Alien franchise and tried to recreate it when making T2.

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#33 Edited by uninspiredcup (27689 posts) -

@Serraph105 said:

@MirkoS77:

It's interesting you bring up Aliens. I consider the first two Alien and Terminator movies to follow the same structure. The first one is a horror slasher flick, and the second one is more of an action movie. That's about where the similarities end however I can't help, but feel like James Cameron saw the winning combination of the Alien franchise and tried to recreate it when making T2.

Slightly Off topic. Aliens Resurrection is a great B-movie. Very underrated.

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#34 Edited by -ParaNormaN- (1505 posts) -

The 2 are almost completely different movies. T1 was more of a horror movie and T2 was an action movie.

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#35 Posted by Elpresador-911 (1038 posts) -

T2

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#36 Posted by comp_atkins (35150 posts) -

@MrGeezer said:

@toast_burner said:

@comp_atkins said:

hmmmm. tough one. i probably like t2 more due to better effects and lack of 80's cheesiness, but it's a close race

Is 90's cheesiness really any better?

I think that's a silly complaint too. I mean, it's a time travel movie. The specific time period obviously ought to be recognizable and have its own identity. Complaining about 8o's cheese is kind of silly. It was set in the 80's and the 80's were cheesy. If I made a time travel movie where a character traveled back to the 1930's, would the 1930's cheese be a valid complaint?

The Terminator took place in the 80's, so it ought to look like the 80's. Terminator 2 took place in the 90's, so it ought to look like the 90's. Both movies succeeded pretty well in that regard, so good for them.

deal with it

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#37 Edited by JyePhye (6173 posts) -

T2 wins by a long shot. One of the best sequels of all time.

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#38 Edited by lamprey263 (35569 posts) -

without the big sequel the original Terminator movie might be one of those forgotten run-of-the-mill 80s sci-fi flicks, same probably goes for Alien, though the original movie was done very well, iit might have been forgotten without the sequel

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#39 Edited by Behardy24 (5324 posts) -

@Iszdope said:

The Terminator.

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#40 Posted by Fairmonkey (1451 posts) -

Both are excellent but I would give it to T2

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#41 Posted by sukraj (27765 posts) -

@Iszdope said:

@sukraj said:

@Iszdope said:

@sukraj said:

@Iszdope said:

The Terminator.

It's my favourite movie.

It's my favourite Terminator movie too.

Nice one.

you posting from work?

Nah, home.

It's 21:30 bro!

whats up bud

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#43 Posted by sukraj (27765 posts) -

@Iszdope said:

@sukraj: Yo bro.

Not much...just watching Big Brother.

You?

Just bored as usual

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#45 Posted by deactivated-59d151f079814 (47239 posts) -

Terminator 1.. I can't watch T2 anymore simply for the fact that I can't STAND Edward Furlong as John Connor.. I can't stand T2's John Connor, I hate his dialogue, and it really detracted from the movie..

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#46 Posted by KillerK1ng (135 posts) -

T2 is better just because Arnold should be the good guy. His voice, his face the way he moves and interacts you sympathise with him. even though hes a giant you still love him. Its like hodor from GoT. You are forced to love him. Terminator Salvation is just plain bad.

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#47 Posted by redstorm72 (4646 posts) -

Terminator 2, because that ending. He was the father figure I never had.

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#48 Posted by Flubbbs (4968 posts) -

T2 by a wide margin.. Judgement Day is the best action movie ever made

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#49 Posted by airshocker (31700 posts) -

@killerk1ng said:

T2 is better just because Arnold should be the good guy. His voice, his face the way he moves and interacts you sympathise with him. even though hes a giant you still love him. Its like hodor from GoT. You are forced to love him. Terminator Salvation is just plain bad.

Terminator Salvation just really wasn't well thought out. Too many plot holes that they were too lazy to deal with intelligently.

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#50 Posted by AFBrat77 (26573 posts) -

Terminator 2....but not by much