Ten Straitegies to attack Christianty by Alice A Bailey (Mason)

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I had happen to come across some information that is an interesting for those who are willing to research and understand.

Alice Bailey said when you are changing a nation, don't bother with the old people, they are too stuck in the old traditions, they will not change, but GO FOR THE CHILDREN and that is what she did. She said 'go for the children especially 10 years and below', since 1945 i.e. any person below 60 years can be a victim of the ideas and the deceptions of this prophetess of the New Age. She came out with a 10 POINT CHARTER that is placed in the House of Lords - House of Commons in the U.K. ; Today our governments and parliaments are implementing these.

THE STRATEGY:- THE 10 POINT CHARTER

Purpose:- To change Christian tradition or to redeem the nations of Christian tradition.

1.TAKE GOD AND PRAYER OUT OF THE EDUCATION SYSTEM

She said; Change curriculum to ensure that children are freed from the bondage of Christian culture. Why? Because children go to school to be equipped to face life, they are willing to trust and they are willing to value what is being given to them.
If you take God out of education, they will unconsciously form a resolve that God is not necessary to face life. They will focus on those things the school counts them worthy to be passed on and they will look at God as an additional, if one can afford the additional

2.REDUCE PARENTAL AUTHORITY OVER THE CHILDREN

She said; Break the communication between parent and child (Why?). So that parents do not pass on their Christian traditions to their children, liberate children from the bondage of their parent traditions (how?)

a)Promote excessive child rights;

b)Abolish corporal punishment

c)Teachers are the agents of implementation - from workshops, teachers tell children 'your parent has no right to force you to pray or read the Bible, you are yourself, have a right of your own, you need to discover yourself, self expression, self realization, self fulfillment are all buzz words

3.DESTROY THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN FAMILY STRUCTURE
OR THE TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN FAMILY STRUCTURE (Why?).

It is oppressive and that the family is the core of the nation. If you break the family, you break the nation. Liberate the people from the confines of this structure (How?)

a)Promote sexual promiscuity - free young people to the concept of premarital sex, let them have free sex, lift it so high that the joy of enjoying it(sex) is the highest joy in life, fantasize it, that everybody will feel proud to be seen to be sexually active, even those outside of marriage

b)Use advertising industry, media - T.V., magazines, film industry to promote sexual enjoyment as the highest pleasure in humanity

4.IF SEX IS FREE, THEN MAKE ABORTION LEGAL AND MAKE IT EASY

She said; Build clinics for abortion - Health clinics in schools. If people are going to enjoy the joy of sexual relationships, they need to be free of unnecessary fears, in other words they should not be hampered with unwanted pregnancies.

5.MAKE DIVORCE EASY AND LEGAL, FREE PEOPLE FROM THE CONCEPT OF MARRIAGE FOR LIFE.

People enter into marriage having signed contracts of how they will share their things after divorce. People enter with one foot and another behind. 50 years ago divorce was unthinkable. It is one thing for a marriage to fail but it is another thing for people to enter marriage with an intention to enjoy as long as it was enjoyable and to walk out of it.

I will post the rest of the strategys in a couple of minutes as i am still preparing them. In the mean time, if you dont know who Alice A Bailey is, feel free to take the time to look up what organizations that she established that are still around to this day.

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Sounds like Hollywood. :P

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I sense bias so thick I can cut it with a machete.
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6. MAKE HOMOSEXUALITY AN ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE

Alice Bailey preached (50 yrs ago) that sexual enjoyment is the highest pleasure in humanity, no one must be denied and no one must be restricted how to enjoy themselves. People should be allowed in which ever way they chose they want, whether it is homosexuality or in incest or bestiality, as long as the two agree.

7. DEBASE ART, MAKE IT RUN MAD

How? Promote new forms of art which will corrupt and defile the imagination of people because art is the language of the spirit, that which is inside, you can bring out in painting, music, drama etc. Look at the quality of the music that is coming out, the films out of Holywood.

8. USE MEDIA TO PROMOTE AND CHANGE MINDSET

Alice Bailey said the greatest channel you need to use to change human attitude is media. Use the press, the radio, T.V, cinema. You can tell today how successful they have been in implementing the plan over 50 years via media as well as advertising agencies, billboards, magazines. Who controls media? (New Age); So much money is pumped into media and advertising spreading of pornographic material and other sources. Sex outside of marriage is thrown on your face 80-90 times than sex in marriage. Promiscuity is being promoted as natural, you watch gay sex on T.V. in homes where children's minds are being neutralized to sensitivity to these things. You wonder why newspapers, T.V, etc do not record anything about Christian activities.

9. CREATE AN INTERFAITH MOVEMENT

Alice Bailey wrote; Promote other faiths to be at par with Christianity, and break this thing about Christianity as being the only way to heaven, by that Christianity will be pulled down and other faiths promoted. She said promote the importance of man in determining his own future and destiny - HUMANISM. She said tell man he has the right to choose what he wants to be and he can make it happen, he has the right to determine his cause - This takes God off His throne. We have seen in our nation, South Africa hosting a meeting of the Interfaith Movement in Cape Town led by Dalai Lama.

10. GET GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE ALL THESE LAW AND GET THE CHURCH TO ENDORSE THESE CHANGES.

Alice Bailey wrote that the church must change its doctrine and accommodate the people by accepting these things and put them into its structures and systems.

Have they succeeded?
Today you wonder why our governments are legislating laws contrary to the Bible and why the church is compromising the Word of God.

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I sense bias so thick I can cut it with a machete.MattUD1
Everything I have shown your are facts, I have YET to put forth my personal information this is actual strategys, that alice a bailey (an admitted Luciferian) has come up with. Even the method which she to create these strategys is quite alarming.

In 1880 Alice Bailey was born, the leadership to further Lucifer's plans (via Theosophy) was transferred to her. She became the president of the Theosophical Society. She is probably the most important in laying the foundation of the New Age Movement. One day she had a visitation of a spirit, that she thought was Christ at first but the spirit introduced himself as Djwal Khuhl - spirit from Tibetan. Master of Tibetan offered her great success if she could yield herself to be used to cheat the nations of the world and she made a deliberate decision to offer her life in service to Satan. She has so many writings on every sector of life. By the time she had finished her work in 1949 she had written 24 books, a total of 10,469 pages, most of which were allegedly written through her spirit guide, The Tibetan. She had also established Lucis Trust Goodwill (to which is linked the leadership of the World Constitution and Parliament Association) under the name Lucifer Publishing Company which today boasts of a membership of more than 6000 people = Some of the world's most renowned financial and political leaders have belonged to this organization including individuals such as Robert McNamara, Donald Reagan, Henry Kissinger, David Rockerfeller, Paul Volker, George Schultz. This is the same group of people that runs the Council on Foreign Relations - the organization responsible for founding the United Nations. It is interesting to note that Lucis Trust has its headquarters at UN Plazza until recently.

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Good for Alice Bailey.
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I really don't see how Christianity is so evil. Some people need religion anyways, really improves their happyness. If your have a poor quality of life a world without a god can be cruel and scary. And I HATE number 2. Maybe some of you have been forcefully indoctrinated by parents but thats not the norm. I know many atheists whos parents respect their decision and many Christians who are so by choice, sometimes even against the will of their parents.
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Not only can I not find any record of what is contained in the original post anywhere on the internet, this is also more or less one big poisoning the well fallacy, whose purpose is basically to color people's impressions of suggestions for policy that may be included in the list and make them react negatively towards them without actually presenting any form of coherent arguments against any of them. It also mixes in some straw men for good measure, too.

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Let me provide you with some links then. http://www.kheper.net/topics/Theosophy/Bailey.html

You can purchase Alice a baileys books here, which contain the stratgies at this link http://www.bookfinder.com/author/alice-a-bailey/

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In 1880 Alice Bailey was born, the leadership to further Lucifer's plans (via Theosophy) was transferred to her.

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Uh... ok...
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"...bestiality, as long as the two agree."

:lol: This makes me think of the Lyre bird from the other thread. That's about the only circumstance I can see that working, and even then it's only a foul trick.

Also incest? What a great thing to promote to prove a point :roll:.

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[QUOTE="MattUD1"]I sense bias so thick I can cut it with a machete.JJ_Productions

Everything I have shown your are facts, I have YET to put forth my personal information this is actual strategys, that alice a bailey (an admitted Luciferian) has come up with. Even the method which she to create these strategys is quite alarming.

In 1880 Alice Bailey was born, the leadership to further Lucifer's plans (via Theosophy)

Right there is where I stopped. I then got a little further down the post about influential figures and some such nonsense as with things regarding the use of Lucifer in terms of organizations and I was about to start researching then I read the first sentence again and I said "**** it."

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Does this offend anyone else?

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Like i said, dont believe me, you have acess to endless information on your fingertips, look up the history of alice a bailey, and her predecessor
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[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"]

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]I sense bias so thick I can cut it with a machete.MattUD1

Everything I have shown your are facts, I have YET to put forth my personal information this is actual strategys, that alice a bailey (an admitted Luciferian) has come up with. Even the method which she to create these strategys is quite alarming.

In 1880 Alice Bailey was born, the leadership to further Lucifer's plans (via Theosophy)

Right there is where I stopped. I then got a little further down the post about influential figures and some such nonsense as with things regarding the use of Lucifer in terms of organizations and I was about to start researching then I read the first sentence again and I said "**** it."

The thing your not understanding is that she is an ADMITTED LUCIFIERAN, as in she ADMITS IT, this is not unknown knowledge to those who know about Alice a bailey, instead of shutting down information and being "ignorant" why dont you see the whole picture before you dismiss it.
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Sounds like a good plan to me. Go Alice Bailey! :P

Anyway, what is your point TC? I'm not sure what the objective of this thread is.

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I don't get it. I don't care. Do what you want to do in life.

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yes, clearly attack is the best solution.
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Like i said, dont believe me, you have acess to endless information on your fingertips, look up the history of alice a bailey, and her predecessor JJ_Productions

This is the internet. We have access to endless information, but more likely we're going to end up with endless porn and bull****.

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Let me provide you with some links then. http://www.kheper.net/topics/Theosophy/Bailey.html

You can purchase Alice a baileys books here, which contain the stratgies at this link http://www.bookfinder.com/author/alice-a-bailey/

JJ_Productions

You seem to have ignored the rest of my post; I don't even care whether or not this is an accurate rendering of what some lady wrote, because that does not change the fact that the post is basically just one big logical fallacy when using it to discuss the policies touched upon therein.

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[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"]Like i said, dont believe me, you have acess to endless information on your fingertips, look up the history of alice a bailey, and her predecessor metroidfood

This is the internet. We have access to endless information, but more likely we're going to end up with endless porn and bull****.

yes, but thats all a conspiracy for strategy 3b.
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"]

[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"] Everything I have shown your are facts, I have YET to put forth my personal information this is actual strategys, that alice a bailey (an admitted Luciferian) has come up with. Even the method which she to create these strategys is quite alarming.

In 1880 Alice Bailey was born, the leadership to further Lucifer's plans (via Theosophy)JJ_Productions

Right there is where I stopped. I then got a little further down the post about influential figures and some such nonsense as with things regarding the use of Lucifer in terms of organizations and I was about to start researching then I read the first sentence again and I said "**** it."

The thing your not understanding is that she is an ADMITTED LUCIFIERAN, as in she ADMITS IT, this is not unknown knowledge to those who know about Alice a bailey, instead of shutting down information and being "ignorant" why dont you see the whole picture before you dismiss it.

Quite frankly, I feel you are using the term "Luciferian" in order to persuade me that this particular individual is out to destroy the [Christian] world. Now, had you not used such obviously biased terms such as "Luciferian" and (this gem from your OP) "any person below 60 years can be a victim of the ideas and the deceptions of this prophetess of the New Age" I may have looked into it further than her horribly written Wikipedia page, where I discovered that most of her works that were cited were entirely vague and nonsensical. As Gabu pointed out, your entire first post was a series of "poisoning the well" by giving me information, with no prior introduction with such an obvious slant I can easily dismiss it and save my mental fortitude for something else. Thank you and have a good day. :)
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[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"]

Let me provide you with some links then. http://www.kheper.net/topics/Theosophy/Bailey.html

You can purchase Alice a baileys books here, which contain the stratgies at this link http://www.bookfinder.com/author/alice-a-bailey/

GabuEx

You seem to have ignored the rest of my post; I don't even care whether or not this is an accurate rendering of what some lady wrote, because that does not change the fact that the post is basically just one big logical fallacy when using it to discuss the policies touched upon therein.

I love you Gabu. :oops:

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[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"]

Let me provide you with some links then. http://www.kheper.net/topics/Theosophy/Bailey.html

You can purchase Alice a baileys books here, which contain the stratgies at this link http://www.bookfinder.com/author/alice-a-bailey/

GabuEx

You seem to have ignored the rest of my post; I don't even care whether or not this is an accurate rendering of what some lady wrote, because that does not change the fact that the post is basically just one big logical fallacy when using it to discuss the policies touched upon therein.

Open your eyes man! You aren't seeing the facts in front of you. Its a government conspiracy! The internet is showing corruption. and insert other things people say when they post up these wonderful things. :P

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I am trying to start a discussion, if you would like to discuss, then discuss. If you have a problem with the way I have presented this information, maybe you can direct me to the right way of introducting the information. Dont mock me, or mock the information therein
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I am trying to start a discussion, if you would like to discuss, then discuss. If you have a problem with the way I have presented this information, maybe you can direct me to the right way of introducting the information. Dont mock me, or mock the information therein JJ_Productions
I'm not sure how someone can review the information, or rather data, you've provided and not mock it :\
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I am trying to start a discussion, if you would like to discuss, then discuss. If you have a problem with the way I have presented this information, maybe you can direct me to the right way of introducting the information. Dont mock me, or mock the information therein JJ_Productions
I told you. Use terms that are less than biased. By using "Luciferian" and "deceptions of the prophetess of the New Age" you fail to do that. Then I would consider your post more. Oh, and you never introduced a topic for discussion. You posted 10 Points which may or may not be an actual representation of someones thoughts, without proper citation I may add, and that was it.
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How about people at with discretion? If you believe in something, worship in privacy and don't impose it on others. And don't start wars, genocides and the like. Is that too much to ask?
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How about people at with discretion? If you believe in something, worship in privacy and don't impose it on others. And don't start wars, genocides and the like. Is that too much to ask?hillelslovak
Likewise, that is why I wanna know what is with these blatent attacks on Christianity, its getting to the point that I have to have permission to teach my children my faith, which I find very "imposing" epescially when what i teach then is being challenged in schools.
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I Guess it shows that these strategics are working...
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I Guess it shows that these strategics are working...JJ_Productions
Yes, our strategery is flawless. :twisted:

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[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]How about people at with discretion? If you believe in something, worship in privacy and don't impose it on others. And don't start wars, genocides and the like. Is that too much to ask?JJ_Productions
Likewise, that is why I wanna know what is with these blatent attacks on Christianity, its getting to the point that I have to have permission to teach my children my faith, which I find very "imposing" epescially when what i teach then is being challenged in schools.

It's completely and totally legal to teach your children religion. I don't see how schools/laws are challenging that.

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Let me provide you with some links then. http://www.kheper.net/topics/Theosophy/Bailey.html

You can purchase Alice a baileys books here, which contain the stratgies at this link http://www.bookfinder.com/author/alice-a-bailey/

JJ_Productions
Do you happen to be employed to market these books?
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[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"][QUOTE="hillelslovak"]How about people at with discretion? If you believe in something, worship in privacy and don't impose it on others. And don't start wars, genocides and the like. Is that too much to ask?metroidfood

Likewise, that is why I wanna know what is with these blatent attacks on Christianity, its getting to the point that I have to have permission to teach my children my faith, which I find very "imposing" epescially when what i teach then is being challenged in schools.

It's completely and totally legal to teach your children religion. I don't see how schools/laws are challenging that.

Because the schools aren't also teaching religion, obviously!
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[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"]I Guess it shows that these strategics are working...MattUD1

Yes, our strategery is flawless. :twisted:

Soon, Lucifer and the New Age shall rule the world! :twisted:

*maniacal laughter*

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[QUOTE="MattUD1"]

[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"]I Guess it shows that these strategics are working...black_cat19

Yes, our strategery is flawless. :twisted:

Soon, Lucifer and the New Age shall rule the world! :twisted:

*maniacal laughter*

I was really hoping the use of "strategery" would trigger a reply using Bush... :(
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[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]How about people at with discretion? If you believe in something, worship in privacy and don't impose it on others. And don't start wars, genocides and the like. Is that too much to ask?JJ_Productions
Likewise, that is why I wanna know what is with these blatent attacks on Christianity, its getting to the point that I have to have permission to teach my children my faith, which I find very "imposing" epescially when what i teach then is being challenged in schools.

Permission from whom?

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[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

[QUOTE="MattUD1"] Yes, our strategery is flawless. :twisted:

MattUD1

Soon, Lucifer and the New Age shall rule the world! :twisted:

*maniacal laughter*

I was really hoping the use of "strategery" would trigger a reply using Bush... :(

Oh... :|

I... I'm so sorry! :cry:

*hangs head in shame*

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#39 VENOM192
Member since 2009 • 1385 Posts

Does this offend anyone else?

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#40 VENOM192
Member since 2009 • 1385 Posts

This is a bit offensive. People should be free to believe in whatever they want.

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#41 Gallion-Beast
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

[QUOTE="MattUD1"] Yes, our strategery is flawless. :twisted:

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Soon, Lucifer and the New Age shall rule the world! :twisted:

*maniacal laughter*

I was really hoping the use of "strategery" would trigger a reply using Bush... :(

Well what do you expect? Black_cat's a west Texas girl, just like me.
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#43 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="black_cat19"]

Soon, Lucifer and the New Age shall rule the world! :twisted:

*maniacal laughter*

Gallion-Beast

I was really hoping the use of "strategery" would trigger a reply using Bush... :(

Well what do you expect? Black_cat's a west Texas girl, just like me.

Wait... you both are female? Interesting. Thank you for informing me (and I mean that with no sarcasm).

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#44 lilasianwonder
Member since 2007 • 5982 Posts
Sounds like the recipe for anarchy.
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#45 PannicAtack
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Who the hell cares about Alice A. Bailey? She's just some writer from the early 20th century.

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#46 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="black_cat19"]

Soon, Lucifer and the New Age shall rule the world! :twisted:

*maniacal laughter*

Gallion-Beast

I was really hoping the use of "strategery" would trigger a reply using Bush... :(

Well what do you expect? Black_cat's a west Texas girl, just like me.

Yeah, go west Texas! :D

Wait... what? :?

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#47 SpaceMoose
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Two strategies to attack critical thinking, by SpaceMoose:

1. Teach people to reach conclusions not by observation and reasoning, but rather by indoctrination via repetition.

2. Teach via said indoctrination that any opposition to the indoctrination is rooted in sinister motivations.

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#48 Gallion-Beast
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[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"][QUOTE="MattUD1"] I was really hoping the use of "strategery" would trigger a reply using Bush... :(MattUD1

Well what do you expect? Black_cat's a west Texas girl, just like me.

Wait... you both are female? Interesting. Thank you for informing me (and I mean that with no sarcasm).

>_> "Karyn is with us. A West Texas girl, just like me." -George W. Bush
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#49 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"]

[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"] Well what do you expect? Black_cat's a west Texas girl, just like me.Gallion-Beast

Wait... you both are female? Interesting. Thank you for informing me (and I mean that with no sarcasm).

>_> "Karyn is with us. A West Texas girl, just like me." -George W. Bush

... >_> Didn't see that coming.
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#50 PannicAtack
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7. DEBASE ART, MAKE IT RUN MAD


How? Promote new forms of art which will corrupt and defile the imagination of people because art is the language of the spirit, that which is inside, you can bring out in painting, music, drama etc. Look at the quality of the music that is coming out, the films out of Holywood.

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