Swiss girl was murdered by her Pakistani father for dating a Christian

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#1 paratheos
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http://www.thelocal.ch/national/20120113_2278.html The girl said she wanted to leave home permanently and started to pack a bag. She then went down to the basement of the building to get a pair of shoes. While she was gone, her father allegedly retrieved an axe from the balcony and hid it in the bedroom he shared with his wife. Once she was back in the apartment, the girl went into her parents' bedroom to pick up some of her belongings. When she bent down to retreive some items from the wardrobe, her father hit her with the axe on the back of the head, the prosecutor says. The man struck his daughter 19 times with the axe: 12 times with the blade and seven with the blunt end. The teenager not die instantly, but lay on the ground in agonising pain for several minutes until her life finally slipped away. The father left the axe between her legs, pointing to the feet, a gesture that usually has sexual connotations and expresses the motives behind the murder. In an interview with newspaper Blick, Swera's boyfriend explained that the girl's parents had strongly disapproved of her relationship with him, primarily because he was a Christian.
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#2 TheFatPerson
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It's good to know that the 15th century way of life is still alive and kickin'!

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#3 imaps3fanboy
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No news here.. Religion influences people to do things like this all the time.
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#4 soulless4now
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It's one thing to not approve of her choice of boyfriend but to kill her over it is just insane.

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#5 ad1x2
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Hopefully she will rest in peace and her dad will be in jail for the rest of her life.

Too bad this story will be twisted into another reason why religion should go away.

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#6 paratheos
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]No news here.. Religion influences people to do things like this all the time.

Some crazy people think that fathers would still kill their daughters for sh*t like this even without religion.
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#7 imaps3fanboy
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Hopefully she will rest in peace and her dad will be in jail for the rest of her life.

Too bad this story will be twisted into another reason why religion should go away.

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Why is it too bad?
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#8 MrsSolidSnake
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Wow, poor girl.

I'm glad it's not like that with my family or I'd be dead 3 times over...

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#9 Celldrax
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Here's to hoping he rots for the rest of his life.

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#10 Shottayouth13-
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inb4 religion is the source of all evil.
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#11 surrealnumber5
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is this worse than any other murder? i dont think so.
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#12 Shottayouth13-
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Upon reading the OP, that man is a sick f*ck. I pray hordes and hordes of maggots eat the sick bastard alive.
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#13 mlbslugger86
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I'm literally disgusted, i hope this guy burns in hell or where-ever he believes evil people burn in,

A Fitting End for him would be death by flamethrower

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#14 deactivated-58a5e8ead9efe
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Too bad immolation is considered "cruel and unusual" punishment. It would fit him perfectly.

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#15 branketra
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That's horrible. I heard that somewhere in Europe there are prisons where people are given very good living conditions as a means to rehabilitate them. Even though I hear it works very well, sometimes I wonder if they really deserve a second chance.
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#16 DarthTuna
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**** this is what gives rational religious people a bad reputation

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#17 Bucked20
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That's why I tend to keep myself away from overly religious people
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#18 Rusteater
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I'm sure it was a peaceful murder. No reason to be upset.

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:{ That's just horrible.
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]No news here.. Religion influences people to do things like this all the time.paratheos
Some crazy people think that fathers would still kill their daughters for sh*t like this even without religion.

Of course people would still do bad things without religion, but as often as people do in a world plagued with religious zealots? I think that's highly questionable...

If religion being to blame is entirely out of the question, like most of the pus*ies here think, then please explain why stories like this pop up so damn frequently? The fact is when otherwise normal people are brainwashed into a religion and terrorized with threats of eternal suffering they are prone to doing crazy things, what's so hard to understand about that?

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#22 PernicioEnigma
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inb4 religion is the source of all evil.Shottayouth13-
I doubt you'll find anyone saying that. Humans are always the source, religion is just the tool.
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#23 monkeymoose5000
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Why are people getting mad at the dad? :|
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It's good to know that the 15th century way of life is still alive and kickin'!

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That's the spirit!
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**** this is what gives rational religious people a bad reputation

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Rational religious people are what give people like this a degree of legitimacy.
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#26 Shmiity
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Rest in peace :(

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#27 ColdExistence
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Good job, dad.

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#28 nicksonman
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wtf?
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#30 Zaibach
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These instances are less to do with religion and more to do with some Family pride and honour BS.

Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,

RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(

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#31 nedim100
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These instances are less to do with religion and more yto do with Family pride and honour BS.Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(Zaibach

Yes.It has nothing to do with religion,that man is clearly insane.

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#32 sonofsmeagle
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And now he will get 72 virgins :lol:

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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]These instances are less to do with religion and more yto do with Family pride and honour BS.Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(nedim100

Yes.It has nothing to do with religion,that man is clearly insane.

As a muslim myself, I muat tell you you're wrong. Under no conditions is a Muslim woman permitted to marry anyone but a Muslim man. The same verse cited above (2:221) mentions, "Nor marry your girls to unbelievers until they believe. A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever...." No exception is given for women to marry Jews and Christians, so the law stands that she may only marry a believing (Muslim) man. As head of the household, the husband provides leadership for the family. A Muslim woman does not follow the leadership of someone who does not share her faith and values.
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#34 imaps3fanboy
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[QUOTE="nedim100"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]These instances are less to do with religion and more yto do with Family pride and honour BS.Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(DevilMightCry

Yes.It has nothing to do with religion,that man is clearly insane.

As a muslim myself, I muat tell you you're wrong. Under no conditions is a Muslim woman permitted to marry anyone but a Muslim man. The same verse cited above (2:221) mentions, "Nor marry your girls to unbelievers until they believe. A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever...." No exception is given for women to marry Jews and Christians, so the law stands that she may only marry a believing (Muslim) man. As head of the household, the husband provides leadership for the family. A Muslim woman does not follow the leadership of someone who does not share her faith and values.

Pssh.. yeah.. whoever said Religions restrict womens rights? Not me..
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#35 Just-Breathe
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Why are people getting mad at the dad? :|monkeymoose5000
You try way too hard.
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#36 nedim100
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[QUOTE="nedim100"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]These instances are less to do with religion and more yto do with Family pride and honour BS.Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(DevilMightCry

Yes.It has nothing to do with religion,that man is clearly insane.

As a muslim myself, I muat tell you you're wrong. Under no conditions is a Muslim woman permitted to marry anyone but a Muslim man. The same verse cited above (2:221) mentions, "Nor marry your girls to unbelievers until they believe. A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever...." No exception is given for women to marry Jews and Christians, so the law stands that she may only marry a believing (Muslim) man. As head of the household, the husband provides leadership for the family. A Muslim woman does not follow the leadership of someone who does not share her faith and values.

Im a muslim too,and i know that.But if a woman does marry an unbeliever that doesn't mean she should be killed.

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#37 shinian
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Fundamentalists are just broken beyond repair.
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#38 Harisemo
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murders happen daily

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#39 Ilovegames1992
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These instances are less to do with religion and more to do with some Family pride and honour BS.

Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,

RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(

Zaibach

Another light? Doubt she was going to cure cancer or anything.

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#40 nedim100
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

These instances are less to do with religion and more to do with some Family pride and honour BS.

Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,

RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(

Ilovegames1992

Another light? Doubt she was going to cure cancer or anything.

You're a pessimistic one aren't you?

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#41 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

These instances are less to do with religion and more to do with some Family pride and honour BS.

Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,

RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(

nedim100

Another light? Doubt she was going to cure cancer or anything.

You're a pessimistic one aren't you?

Possibly.

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#42 deactivated-5d1cb98d088e5
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Smarmy bastard. I don't know what you guys think but this guy deserves a good pissing on.

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#43 -Y2J-
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And now he will get 72 virgins :lol:

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unlikely, murder = hell in islam. of course he didnt know that, i doubt he was even religious in the first place. sounds more like an honor killing
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#44 DevilMightCry
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="nedim100"]

Yes.It has nothing to do with religion,that man is clearly insane.

nedim100

As a muslim myself, I muat tell you you're wrong. Under no conditions is a Muslim woman permitted to marry anyone but a Muslim man. The same verse cited above (2:221) mentions, "Nor marry your girls to unbelievers until they believe. A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever...." No exception is given for women to marry Jews and Christians, so the law stands that she may only marry a believing (Muslim) man. As head of the household, the husband provides leadership for the family. A Muslim woman does not follow the leadership of someone who does not share her faith and values.

Im a muslim too,and i know that.But if a woman does marry an unbeliever that doesn't mean she should be killed.

I never said it was ok to kill her. Murder, especially of muslims is a sin. The problem is with us muslim, that incorporate islam as law, not faith. Like Sharia, which is what this nut used as an excuse for his behavior and anger.
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#45 helwa1988
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honor killings is a cultural practice not an Islamic one. people from south Asia and some parts of turkey practice it. but it is generally people from rural areas. hindus in india practice honor killing if a girl marries a guy from a lower caste.(and again it is not a religious practice). growing up a muslim i knew quite a few girls who have non-muslims boyfriends. their parents were pissed but they never murdered them.
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#46 helwa1988
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[QUOTE="nedim100"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]These instances are less to do with religion and more yto do with Family pride and honour BS.Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(DevilMightCry

Yes.It has nothing to do with religion,that man is clearly insane.

As a muslim myself, I muat tell you you're wrong. Under no conditions is a Muslim woman permitted to marry anyone but a Muslim man. The same verse cited above (2:221) mentions, "Nor marry your girls to unbelievers until they believe. A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever...." No exception is given for women to marry Jews and Christians, so the law stands that she may only marry a believing (Muslim) man. As head of the household, the husband provides leadership for the family. A Muslim woman does not follow the leadership of someone who does not share her faith and values.

but does it say anything about killing her if she does? no it doesn't. the problem with these honor killing folk are follow their own opinion and desires. it has nothing to do with islam.
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hope his honour is worth it

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#48 DevilMightCry
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but does it say anything about killing her if she does? no it doesn't. the problem with these honor killing folk are follow their own opinion and desires. it has nothing to do with islam.helwa1988
If a Muslim woman marries a kaafir when she knows the ruling, then she is a zaaniyah (adulteress), and her punishment is the punishment for adultery. If she was ignorant of the ruling then she is excused, but they must be separated. The punishment for adultery is death.

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#49 Dogswithguns
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Messed up in the head.. religious enough to kill his own child?!
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#50 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

These instances are less to do with religion and more to do with some Family pride and honour BS.

Another light from this world snuffed out for no good reason, effn zealouts man,

RIP Swera, hopefully youre in a more tolerant place :(

Ilovegames1992

Another light? Doubt she was going to cure cancer or anything.

How do you know that?

she was sixteen :?

hardly think she'd lived