SOPA and PIPA your thoughts ?

I heard that the blackout worked and they're shelving SOPA for now.

What about PIPA? Did they say anything on that?

I heard that the blackout worked and they're shelving SOPA for now.

What about PIPA? Did they say anything on that?

Shinobishyguy

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I heard that the blackout worked and they're shelving SOPA for now.

What about PIPA? Did they say anything on that?

cee1gee

I just can't imagine how things would be like if SOPA and/or PIPA pass.

I just can't imagine how things would be like if SOPA and/or PIPA pass.

TAMKFan

Whoops I've saw too late thet there is already a thread for it, sorry for the uneccessary other post so:

Seems like SOPA is dead for now.

http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is-dead-smith-pulls-bill/

What do you think about it?

Label me a conspiracy nut if you want, but bills like that are just more ways to chip away at little freedoms we have left. The constitution is slowly being modified only to eventually be done away with altogether. Hollywood and the music industry know they will always make money despite copyright infringemnt, piracy, etc but this bill will give them more reasons to make crappy products and expect people to gladly pay for it. The number of people who are willing to honestly pay for good product will always outnumber pro-piracy enthusiasts. The digital world is a literal matrix. Any rules or guidelines forced upon the people will eventually and always be compromised by hackers, crackers and people who are always a step ahead.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/19/truth-about-sopa/ Fox News is defending SOPA.DarkOfKnight

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/18/sopa-what-it-is-and-why-its-bad/ Fox News is not defending SOPA

I know it is cool and hip to bash Fox News, but that is in the opinion section of Fox News. If you look at the opinion sections of CNN, MSNBC, ect your'll see opinions supporting and not supporting SOPA.

[QUOTE="DarkOfKnight"]http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/19/truth-about-sopa/ Fox News is defending SOPA.Chaos_HL21

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/18/sopa-what-it-is-and-why-its-bad/ Fox News is not defending SOPA

I know it is cool and hip to bash Fox News, but that is in the opinion section of Fox News. If you look at the opinion sections of CNN, MSNBC, ect your'll see opinions supporting and not supporting SOPA.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="DarkOfKnight"]http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/19/truth-about-sopa/ Fox News is defending SOPA.mattbbpl

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/18/sopa-what-it-is-and-why-its-bad/ Fox News is not defending SOPA

I know it is cool and hip to bash Fox News, but that is in the opinion section of Fox News. If you look at the opinion sections of CNN, MSNBC, ect your'll see opinions supporting and not supporting SOPA.

What's all this complaining about SOPA, PIPA and anti piracy mumbu jumbo? What's all the big fuss?

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/18/sopa-what-it-is-and-why-its-bad/ Fox News is not defending SOPA

I know it is cool and hip to bash Fox News, but that is in the opinion section of Fox News. If you look at the opinion sections of CNN, MSNBC, ect your'll see opinions supporting and not supporting SOPA.

Justforvisit

After a CES event where he saw Google TV demoed (in which a search for content showed up content archived on Amazon, Netflix, etc. as well as a generic Google search), he referred to Google asa "Piracy Leader."

The reasoning? Because Google's search engine doesn't filter out results from illicit sites.

This whole thing is getting ridiculous.

In other SOPA defending news, Bill Maher came out in support http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7bIDBD6eus

I've never been a big fan of his, but this just made me lose all respect for him. Maybe in part because I expected someone of his ilk to be a little more understanding of what SOPA is, and why it's terrible, and I expected him to be a little less greedy than all the businesses he constantly bashes to justify legislation like Dodd-Frank. The fact that he admits to not even reading the bill, and doesn't even seem to understand the internet in general is the worst part of all. I almost feel like he probably just watched the Republican debate the other night, heard all 4 remaining canididates come out strongly against it, and decided he'd be strongly for it.

In other SOPA defending news, Bill Maher came out in support http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7bIDBD6eus

I've never been a big fan of his, but this just made me lose all respect for him. Maybe in part because I expected someone of his ilk to be a little more understanding of what SOPA is, and why it's terrible, and I expected him to be a little less greedy than all the businesses he constantly bashes to justify legislation like Dodd-Frank. The fact that he admits to not even reading the bill, and doesn't even seem to understand the internet in general is the worst part of all. I almost feel like he probably just watched the Republican debate the other night, heard all 4 remaining canididates come out strongly against it, and decided he'd be strongly for it.

Boston_Boyy

These bills are made to give more control to the government. They want to control everything in our lives at one point, ESPECIALLY the Obama administration. If they had their way, they would control what car everyone drives, what clothes they buy, what news they watch, and where they get their food. The news magazines and networks that are in bed with the Obama administration (Newsweek, CNN, NBC, etc) praise everything that Obama does and wants to have done because so many people are too stupid to do some research and figure out how badly their getting plowed by the US government. This country is going to hell very quickly and if this SOPA thing passes, their will be anarchy. And if SOPA does pass, it won't be long before the government takes control of television, radio, EVERYTHING. This is our chance to stop it because in five or six months, it may be way too late. When our government takes away our freedom of press and freedom of speech (which is exactly what SOPA/PIPA is) people are going to be quite upset and that's when this country will begin to tear itself apart. Just wait and see.

See support SOPA commercial on CNN. :roll:

At least give up for a while.

The Lou Dobbs show was pretty cool to watch before CNN canned him.

If SOPA or PIPA ever pass, I will post a gore video of myself on the internet.

This is all.

I really wanted Google to not just do a little protest like they did, but like drop their public DNS servers. That would have wreaked havoc and really sent a message.cell_dweller

SOPA needs to go ahead!

SOPA is just nonsense and will harm innocent businesses and individuals without just cause. As a Wikipedia editor I know the pressures that exist over removing copyrighted content. It is not an easy process and a lot of stuff goes under the radar. Also, what jurisdiction does the government even have over this?wind-OF-s0rrOw

^^According to the government, millions of dollars are lost because of piracy. With SOPA and PIPA, piracy will "disappear" or lower the numbers, allowing companies that make movies, music, games and all that receive even more money because piracy will be slow down.

All of that is pure nonesense in my opinion. Piracy will always exist and there is nothing companies can do for stop it. The best way for fight piracy is to give potential customers incentives for buy the products and make them think they did a good use of their money.

What's all this complaining about SOPA, PIPA and anti piracy mumbu jumbo? What's all the big fuss?

slamminjammin69

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What's all this complaining about SOPA, PIPA and anti piracy mumbu jumbo? What's all the big fuss?

TAMKFan

They are revising SOPA to make it better. When most of the people against the bill are Republicans you kind of have to question if the bill is really that bad.

The only people hurt from this are Piracy websites and search engines and I smell hardcore lobbying happening on their behalf.

[QUOTE="TAMKFan"]

[QUOTE="slamminjammin69"]

What's all this complaining about SOPA, PIPA and anti piracy mumbu jumbo? What's all the big fuss?

Banjo_Kongfooie

They are revising SOPA to make it better. When most of the people against the bill are Republicans you kind of have to question if the bill is really that bad.

The only people hurt from this are Piracy websites and search engines and I smell hardcore lobbying happening on their behalf.

i think it's a bad idea. I am all for stopping music piracy. But we need to do so in a way that will not grant absurd amounts of power into the wrong hands.

[QUOTE="TAMKFan"]

[QUOTE="slamminjammin69"]

What's all this complaining about SOPA, PIPA and anti piracy mumbu jumbo? What's all the big fuss?

Banjo_Kongfooie

They are revising SOPA to make it better. When most of the people against the bill are Republicans you kind of have to question if the bill is really that bad.

The only people hurt from this are Piracy websites and search engines and I smell hardcore lobbying happening on their behalf.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="TAMKFan"]

Maybe because of how it would change the internet? The internet just be the same anymore if they pass.

DroidPhysX

They are revising SOPA to make it better. When most of the people against the bill are Republicans you kind of have to question if the bill is really that bad.

The only people hurt from this are Piracy websites and search engines and I smell hardcore lobbying happening on their behalf.

http://lezgetreal.com/2012/01/a-victory-against-sopa-gop-sens-rubio-and-cornyn-drop-support/

Republicans turned on it when the Search engines started loading their pockets I am sure.

Piracy will always exist and there is nothing companies can do for stop it. The best way for fight piracy is to give potential customers incentives for buy the products and make them think they did a good use of their money.

Miroku32

[QUOTE="Miroku32"] Piracy will always exist and there is nothing companies can do for stop it. The best way for fight piracy is to give potential customers incentives for buy the products and make them think they did a good use of their money.

alexside1

The problem is that piracy sites increase revenue for search engines. Yahoo,Google will be against any anti piracy legislation. The only reason Microsoft with bing supports SOPA is because they lose alot more money from their Software (games, OS's) being pirated.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="Miroku32"] Piracy will always exist and there is nothing companies can do for stop it. The best way for fight piracy is to give potential customers incentives for buy the products and make them think they did a good use of their money.

Banjo_Kongfooie

The problem is that piracy sites increase revenue for search engines. Yahoo,Google will be against any anti piracy legislation. The only reason Microsoft with bing supports SOPA is because they lose alot more money from their Software (games, OS's) being pirated.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] That's not a solution that effectively condoning it by ignoring it.

alexside1

The problem is that piracy sites increase revenue for search engines. Yahoo,Google will be against any anti piracy legislation. The only reason Microsoft with bing supports SOPA is because they lose alot more money from their Software (games, OS's) being pirated.

Why because Google and Yahoo care about "civil liberties"? They are corporations and really only want their profits increasing.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

They are revising SOPA to make it better. When most of the people against the bill are Republicans you kind of have to question if the bill is really that bad.

The only people hurt from this are Piracy websites and search engines and I smell hardcore lobbying happening on their behalf.

Banjo_Kongfooie

http://lezgetreal.com/2012/01/a-victory-against-sopa-gop-sens-rubio-and-cornyn-drop-support/

Republicans turned on it when the Search engines started loading their pockets I am sure.

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

The problem is that piracy sites increase revenue for search engines. Yahoo,Google will be against any anti piracy legislation. The only reason Microsoft with bing supports SOPA is because they lose alot more money from their Software (games, OS's) being pirated.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Why because Google and Yahoo care about "civil liberties"? They are corporations and really only want their profits increasing.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] ....That's not the reason why they are against it.........DroidPhysX

Why because Google and Yahoo care about "civil liberties"? They are corporations and really only want their profits increasing.

kill them with fire

Well if the end comes:

Why isn't anyone talking about ACTA when it's much more dangerous and even more likely to get passed than SOPA and PIPA?

Why isn't anyone talking about ACTA when it's much more dangerous and even more likely to get passed than SOPA and PIPA?

MobilechicaneX

[QUOTE="TAMKFan"]

[QUOTE="slamminjammin69"]

What's all this complaining about SOPA, PIPA and anti piracy mumbu jumbo? What's all the big fuss?

Banjo_Kongfooie

They are revising SOPA to make it better. When most of the people against the bill are Republicans you kind of have to question if the bill is really that bad.

The only people hurt from this are Piracy websites and search engines and I smell hardcore lobbying happening on their behalf.