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#101 KungfuKitten
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Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?
Who is deciding whether this is going to be a law? Surely they are not allowed to be influenced by corporations?

Which reminds me of a discussion not too long ago in which I was told corporations can do no evil and can do no harm because their goal is -and should solely be- making money. The way they choose to make money is not their responsibility. That was what I was told, and I still disagree with that point of view. But if companies have nothing to do with right and wrong, their 'support' shouldn't matter to anyone at all especially in matters of right and wrong. All they can do is say what is profitable, i.e. they lie, their support carries no weight.

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#102 daabulls23
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Megaupload is dead. And that's without SOPA.

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Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?
Who is deciding whether this is going to be a law? Surely they are not allowed to be influenced by corporations?

Which reminds me of a discussion not too long ago in which I was told corporations can do no evil and can do no harm because their goal is -and should solely be- making money. The way they choose to make money is not their responsibility. That was what I was told, and I still disagree with that point of view. But if companies have nothing to do with right and wrong, their 'support' shouldn't matter to anyone at all especially in matters of right and wrong. All they can do is say what is profitable, i.e. they lie, their support carries no weight.

KungfuKitten

Hahaha

You serious?

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Megaupload is dead. And that's without SOPA.

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the FBI got them. BI charges Megaupload operators with piracy crimes by Greg Sandoval January 19, 2012 11:50 AM PST Kim Schmitz, aka Kimble, is the founder of Megaupload, an online file storage service accused of massive piracy. (Credit: 3News in New Zealand) The FBI has busted the alleged operators of Internet locker service Megaupload, which had become one of the most popular video destinations on the Web, according to a statement from the U.S. Justice Department. Seven people have been named in an indictment and four suspects have been taken into custody, according to a statement issued by the Justice Department. They have been charged in Virginia with crimes related to online piracy, including racketeering conspiracy, conspiring to commit copyright infringement, and conspiring to commit money laundering. According to the Justice Department, the indictment alleges that Megaupload is led by Kim Dotcom, aka Kim Schmitz, a German with a colorful history who was once convicted of a felony but he has repeatedly denied engaging in piracy. DotCom and three others were arrested in Auckland, New Zealand by New Zealand police, who "who executed provisional arrest warrants requested by the United States," the Justice Department. Along with Dotcom, Kim Tim Jim Vestor, 37, a resident of Hong Kong and New Zealand was also arrested. Authorities say that Dotcom founded Megaupload and is the director and sole shareholder of Vestor Limited, which has been used to hold his ownership interests in the Mega-affiliated sites. "This action is among the largest criminal copyright cases ever brought by the United States," the Justice department said in a statement. The arrests "directly targets the misuse of a public content storage and distribution site to commit and facilitate intellectual property crime." In August, CNET profiled DotCom after he was sued by a porn studio for copyright violations and after film industry sources told me that Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) had complained to law enforcement officials numerous times that Megaupload was getting rich by helping millions of people store and distribute pirated films and TV shows. More to come
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#105 z4twenny
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Megaupload is dead. And that's without SOPA.

daabulls23

i find this hilarious for all the wrong reasons.

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#106 GazaAli
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I don't know, the Internet as a platform is such a blessing to all the people in the world but specially for people from 3rd world countries. Without it I wouldn't have been able to know/enjoy many things in life. I don't know what exactly are they aiming for, but I have a feeling this could alter the online experience as a whole, hopefully not though.
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#107 fabz_95
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Like the majority of people, I'm against it. I don't think it will have a significant affect on piracy but it will heavily increase what is censored and the freedom we have on the internet.
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#108 evo4x4hardcore8
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If megaupload goes down, then bye-bye mediafire and Fileserve. im think that that SOPA and PIPA is a horrid idea and should be shut down! PLEASE HEAR ME SOPA AND PIPA!


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#109 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?
Who is deciding whether this is going to be a law? Surely they are not allowed to be influenced by corporations?

Which reminds me of a discussion not too long ago in which I was told corporations can do no evil and can do no harm because their goal is -and should solely be- making money. The way they choose to make money is not their responsibility. That was what I was told, and I still disagree with that point of view. But if companies have nothing to do with right and wrong, their 'support' shouldn't matter to anyone at all especially in matters of right and wrong. All they can do is say what is profitable, i.e. they lie, their support carries no weight.

Person0

Hahaha

You serious?

Yeah I am dead serious. So I suppose that means they are somehow allowed to be influenced by corporations. If you mean outside of suggesting a law, then I suppose that is one way to silence the people and take away your voters rights. How can corporations in any way shape or form be in charge or have authority in making laws? Their objective is money, not a better world or anything the voters want.
Corporations should always, like government, be subordinate to the people as a whole.

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#110 branketra
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I hadn't even heard of PIPA until a couple days ago. I still need to read it. As far as SOPA, I think the idea of stopping online piracy is a just one, but this is a flawed way to go about enacting it.
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#111 parkurtommo
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I don't even care, no government is stupid enough to pass that.

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Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?
Who is deciding whether this is going to be a law? Surely they are not allowed to be influenced by corporations?

Which reminds me of a discussion not too long ago in which I was told corporations can do no evil and can do no harm because their goal is -and should solely be- making money. The way they choose to make money is not their responsibility. That was what I was told, and I still disagree with that point of view. But if companies have nothing to do with right and wrong, their 'support' shouldn't matter to anyone at all especially in matters of right and wrong. All they can do is say what is profitable, i.e. they lie, their support carries no weight.

KungfuKitten

Hahahahaha!

Actually, the Supreme Court recently ruled that corporation influence over politicians can't be impeded because they have the same first amendment rights that the citizens do.

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#113 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?
Who is deciding whether this is going to be a law? Surely they are not allowed to be influenced by corporations?

Which reminds me of a discussion not too long ago in which I was told corporations can do no evil and can do no harm because their goal is -and should solely be- making money. The way they choose to make money is not their responsibility. That was what I was told, and I still disagree with that point of view. But if companies have nothing to do with right and wrong, their 'support' shouldn't matter to anyone at all especially in matters of right and wrong. All they can do is say what is profitable, i.e. they lie, their support carries no weight.

mattbbpl

Hahahahaha!

Actually, the Supreme Court recently ruled that corporation influence over politicians can't be impeded because they have the same first amendment rights that the citizens do.

>_> I can't even tell whether you're fooling me or being serious.

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#114 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?
Who is deciding whether this is going to be a law? Surely they are not allowed to be influenced by corporations?

Which reminds me of a discussion not too long ago in which I was told corporations can do no evil and can do no harm because their goal is -and should solely be- making money. The way they choose to make money is not their responsibility. That was what I was told, and I still disagree with that point of view. But if companies have nothing to do with right and wrong, their 'support' shouldn't matter to anyone at all especially in matters of right and wrong. All they can do is say what is profitable, i.e. they lie, their support carries no weight.

KungfuKitten

Hahahahaha!

Actually, the Supreme Court recently ruled that corporation influence over politicians can't be impeded because they have the same first amendment rights that the citizens do.

>_> I can't even tell whether you're fooling me or being serious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

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Everything I love about the internet would be gone.

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Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?

KungfuKitten

The basic thing is that if any website if found "guilty" of "copyright infringment" (say, user generated content that uses a picture or character or some other content) the ENTIRE site can be shut down. That mean potentially - lets say Gamespot uses a video game character or something for an article and (as an example) EA doesn't like that they've used the character in that way (or at all) they can effectively have Gamespot shut down for copyright infringment.

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#117 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]Hahahahaha!

Actually, the Supreme Court recently ruled that corporation influence over politicians can't be impeded because they have the same first amendment rights that the citizens do.

mattbbpl

>_> I can't even tell whether you're fooling me or being serious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission


Was typing a lot of stuff in reply, starting off sentences without finishing them. Then I thought I was missing something but I'm not. Maybe the article is wrong and then I find ten more of the same and none contradicting it.

There was a policeman today on the news. Told about a case. A man from my country was imprisoned in Turkey for 4 years without evidence or anything. He was supposed to be jailed for 10 years under suspicion of smuggling drugs. The evidence was non-existent, but they didn't bother checking that. He appealed and they saw he was right, but he still had to serve 10 years for no reason given. After 4 years he managed to get them to relocate him to a jail in my country were he was set free on arrival.
I didn't have words for that either.

I overheard my dad talk about how they ensured that a certain 40-year full time company-loyal person at this big global company was unable to get a promised position as project lead by telling him about the whole project being aborted, misleading him to a dead-end function he really didn't want and will never get out of, and then continuing the project anyway with a friend of their boss who walked in from a competitive company the other day.
I really didn't know what to say to that either.

I think, there are no right words to say in the face of administrative corruption. Guess, I'll just turn off my browser tab and say goodbye America, for today. That seems to be the only rational thing to do.

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#118 UssjTrunks
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Some dirt that shows how hypocritical these morons are (sorry if already posted):

"Now a particularly ironic fact has come to light -- it appears that IP addresses belonging to the offices of members of Congress have been downloading content illegally via BitTorrent.

TorrentFreak used Hurricane Electric's handy list of assigned IP blocks (found here) to track down which IP addresses belong to the offices of members of Congress. And lo and behold, when those addresses were compared to results on YouHaveDownloaded, a torrent tracking site, they yielded over 800 hits.

Now to put this in context YouHaveDownloaded tracks only a tiny portion of torrent traffic, so it appears that Congress -- even as they look to punish lesser mortals for file sharing -- are themselves gleefully committing a "smash and grab" as Vice President Joe Biden (D) once put it.
"

http://www.dailytech.com/Congress+Plugs+AntiPiracy+Legislation+By+Day+Pirates+Porn+by+Night+/article23625.htm

"If there's one organization known for its crusade against online piracy, it's the RIAA. Nevertheless, even in the RIAA's headquarters several people use BitTorrent to download pirated music, movies, TV-shows and software. And they are in good company. The Department of Homeland Security – known for seizing pirate domain names – also harbors hundreds of BitTorrent pirates."

http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-and-homeland-security-caught-downloading-torrents-111217/

"With increasing lobbying efforts from the entertainment industry against BitTorrent sites and users, we wondered whether these companies hold themselves to the same standards they demand of others. After some initial skimming we've discovered BitTorrent pirates at nearly every major entertainment industry company in the US, including Sony Pictures Entertainment, Fox Entertainment and NBC Universal. Busted."

https://torrentfreak.com/busted-bittorrent-pirates-at-sony-universal-and-fox-111213/

This moron is the author of SOPA/PIPA:

"I decided to check that everything on Lamar's official campaign website was copyright-cleared and on the level. Lamar is using several stock images on his site, two of which I tracked back to the same photographic agency. I contacted the agency to make sure he was paying to use them, but was told that it's very difficult for them to actually check to see if someone has permission to use their images. (Great news, copyright violators!) However, seeing as they're both from the same agency and are unwatermarked, it seems fairly likely that he is the only person on the entire internet who is actually paying to use a stock image (and he'd be an idiot not to).

So I took a look back at an archived, pre-SOPA version of his site.

This is a screenshot of his site as it appeared on the 24th of July, 2011.

And this is the background image Lamar was using. I managed to track that picture back to DJ Schulte, the photographer who took it.

And whaddya know? Looks like someone forgot to credit him.

I contacted DJ, to find out if Lamar had asked permission to use the image and he told me that he had no record of Lamar, or anyone from his organization, requesting permission to use it: "I switched my images from traditional copyright protection to be protected under the Creative Commons license a few years ago, which simply states that they can use my images as long as they attribute the image to me and do not use it for commercial purposes.

"I do not see anywhere on the screen capture that you have provided that the image was attributed to the source (me). So my conclusion would be that Lamar Smith's organization did improperly use my image. So according to the SOPA bill, should it pass, maybe I could petition the court to take action against http://www.texansforlamarsmith.com.

Oh dear. Luckily for DJ, there are people out there like Lamar making new laws to protect the little guy against online copyright theft. Keep fighting that good fight, Lamar!
"

http://www.vice.com/read/lamar-smith-sopa-copyright-whoops

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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?

DigitalExile

The basic thing is that if any website if found "guilty" of "copyright infringment" (say, user generated content that uses a picture or character or some other content) the ENTIRE site can be shut down. That mean potentially - lets say Gamespot uses a video game character or something for an article and (as an example) EA doesn't like that they've used the character in that way (or at all) they can effectively have Gamespot shut down for copyright infringment.

But let's say I have a blog and I put pictures that belong to EA, let's say wallpapers of ToR or pictures of Shepard and the server of the blog is located in any country of Hispanic America. They really can't force the shut down of a webpage that doesn't belong to the US. Sure, they can block the IP so people from the US can't see it but shutting down my blog is impossible, isn't it?
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#120 DigitalExile
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?

Miroku32

The basic thing is that if any website if found "guilty" of "copyright infringment" (say, user generated content that uses a picture or character or some other content) the ENTIRE site can be shut down. That mean potentially - lets say Gamespot uses a video game character or something for an article and (as an example) EA doesn't like that they've used the character in that way (or at all) they can effectively have Gamespot shut down for copyright infringment.

But let's say I have a blog and I put pictures that belong to EA, let's say wallpapers of ToR or pictures of Shepard and the server of the blog is located in any country of Hispanic America. They really can't force the shut down of a webpage that doesn't belong to the US. Sure, they can block the IP so people from the US can't see it but shutting down my blog is impossible, isn't it?

I'm not too sure about that, but even blocking access to someones blog is too much for something so minor.

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Doesn't the creator of the bill have an illegally downloaded pic as his Wallpaper?

lol, f*cking damn son.

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Doesn't the creator of the bill have an illegally downloaded pic as his Wallpaper?

lol, f*cking damn son.

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Yeah. What a fool.
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#123 fueled-system
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Those who oppose SOPA as stated in the GOP debate


Ron Paul
Newt Gingrich

Mitt Romney

Those who are on the fence and approve of more regulation

Rick Santorum

President Obama will not sign either PIPA/Sopa at its state

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Those who oppose SOPA as stated in the GOP debate


Ron Paul
Newt Gingrich

Mitt Romney

Those who are on the fence and approve of more regulation

Rick Santorum

President Obama will not sign either PIPA/Sopa at its state

fueled-system

Actions speak louder then words, only Paul and Obama have actually opposed it. Santorum is pretty stupid for saying he somewhat supports it though.

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"In retaliation for the shut down of the file sharing service Megaupload[187], Anonymous hacked and shut down the websites for UMG (the company responsible for the lawsuit against Megaupload), the United States Department of Justice, the United States Copyright Office, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the MPAA, Warner Brothers Music and the RIAA the afternoon of January 19." lolololol
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#126 fueled-system
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[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

Those who oppose SOPA as stated in the GOP debate


Ron Paul
Newt Gingrich

Mitt Romney

Those who are on the fence and approve of more regulation

Rick Santorum

President Obama will not sign either PIPA/Sopa at its state

Person0

Actions speak louder then words, only Paul and Obama have actually opposed it. Santorum is pretty stupid for saying he somewhat supports it though.

I cant see Mitt or Newt supporting it though

Santorum has no chance thankfully

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#127 angeldeb82
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Well, Jon Stewart compared SOPA to a plan that can stop teenage pregnancy by filling p***ses with cement! :lol: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-18-2012/ko-computer
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Those bills are so stupid, and when does the debate start up again?
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Those bills are so stupid, and when does the debate start up again?metroidprime55
February i think.
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[QUOTE="Person0"]

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Can someone explain to me (I'm not a US citizen) why it matters whether this bill has 'support' or 'opposition'?
Who is deciding whether this is going to be a law? Surely they are not allowed to be influenced by corporations?

Which reminds me of a discussion not too long ago in which I was told corporations can do no evil and can do no harm because their goal is -and should solely be- making money. The way they choose to make money is not their responsibility. That was what I was told, and I still disagree with that point of view. But if companies have nothing to do with right and wrong, their 'support' shouldn't matter to anyone at all especially in matters of right and wrong. All they can do is say what is profitable, i.e. they lie, their support carries no weight.

KungfuKitten

Hahaha

You serious?

Yeah I am dead serious. So I suppose that means they are somehow allowed to be influenced by corporations. If you mean outside of suggesting a law, then I suppose that is one way to silence the people and take away your voters rights. How can corporations in any way shape or form be in charge or have authority in making laws? Their objective is money, not a better world or anything the voters want.
Corporations should always, like government, be subordinate to the people as a whole.

well it effects the whole world because the internet has almost all of the major website providers in the US so if they get effected here its everywhere, and you really think that the US government is not bought out ? its been a common fact for decades

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#131 MW2ismygame
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Those bills are so stupid, and when does the debate start up again?metroidprime55
last i checked feb 1st
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#132 MW2ismygame
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I don't even care, no government is stupid enough to pass that.

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well we elected bush twice, cheer for executions and vote against our own self interests, so id say we are dumb enough to actually pass it
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#133 wakefulness
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I came across this topic by typing "megaupload" in th GS search bar. I came to write that you all should know there is a back up site for megaupload.

http://109.236.83.66

It is currently running from the Netherlands.

Edit: I got it from reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/anonymous/comments/oo6jl/megaupload_is_back_up_direct_ip_1092368366/

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What the blackout protests managed to accomplish in 24 hours:

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Union lobbying ftl...... Lets end up shipping more jobs overseas by making another industry less viable in the US. This law will not accomplish anything related to preventing piracy. It will simply hurt US based companies who provide means to an inevitable end.
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#136 Fandangle
Member since 2003 • 3433 Posts

I liked what this guy said

technology of yesterday

Back in my day books were photocopied and music was taped off the radio. Don't think the founders of Xerox ever got taken down by the FBI for it all those infringements though. I wonder what is so fundamentally different about founding a website????

http://www.news.com.au/technology/fbi-shuts-down-megauploadcom-charges-seven-with-online-piracy/story-e6frfro0-1226249114650#ixzz1jyqUAo1n

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#137 DarkOfKnight
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/19/truth-about-sopa/ Fox News is defending SOPA.
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#138 DarkOfKnight
Member since 2011 • 2543 Posts
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/112%20HR%203261.pdf For anybody who wants, there is the entire SOPA bill.
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#139 malfreds
Member since 2005 • 63 Posts

I live in Mexico and we have laws for this kind of abuse.

If some law (like this) tries to go through, it can be approved, but you can "protect" against it, citing anti-constitutional behavior. You can say that your rights of free speech are violented, then you go to the tribunals, ask for constitution protection and you can present it to the ISP and they will never, never give your data to anyone, even if a US tribunal ask for it, because international laws don't affect.

This constitution figure is very polemic because people use it for everything, specially against good laws, but in these cases it helps a lot because you are protected vs abusive laws.

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#140 Ninja-Hippo
Member since 2008 • 23434 Posts
Am i late to the party? They've abandoned both bills indefinitely after the protests. :)
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#141 cee1gee
Member since 2008 • 2042 Posts

Ok here is what I honestly think they might do with SOPA and PIPA.

Please read because i have an interesting theory.

First let me tell you i do not support either of them.

But i dont think they will take down companies like facebook, youtube, wikipedia etc. Heres why the government wants control..what does the government like? thats easy..MONEY!

a copyright infringement = pay me this or i will take you down = MONEY

small sites that cant produce money = gone

big sites like GOOGLE = still around

But heres the catch..if the Government is stupid enough to take down big sites like youtube more will crumble down with it...ready?

Whos gonna buy a smart phone like an Iphone if you cant go on youtube and other awesome sites? no one...Iphone sales PLUMMET.

Metro PCS and other smaller Phone companies that are 40 dollars unlimited calling will thrive

No Youtube gameplay footage of video games from commentators and fans that wanna see gameplay? Gaming sales will plummet

No Facebook? = More people go outside = More havoc = More Reproduction due to More people going outside = Population Overload

Yes im being serious

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#142 R4gn4r0k  Online
Member since 2004 • 46194 Posts

What the blackout protests managed to accomplish in 24 hours:

Rikusaki

How did a bill like that get 80 supporters:|

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#143 coltgames
Member since 2009 • 2120 Posts
4 percent of the internet gone even without sopa and pipa passed
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#144 Shinobi120
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Whatever you do, guys, for the sake of the Internet in the future, do not, & I repeat, DO NOT, vote for Lamar Smith in for the U.S. House of Representatives, as he's up for re-election this year & is the author of SOPA.

Please. Tell all the uninformed about him, whatever it's your friends, family, or whoever else.

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#146 RandomWinner
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

I don't even care, no government is stupid enough to pass that.

MW2ismygame

well we elected bush twice, cheer for executions and vote against our own self interests, so id say we are dumb enough to actually pass it

We elected Bush once.

Come on liberals!

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#147 madsnakehhh
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/19/truth-about-sopa/ Fox News is defending SOPA.DarkOfKnight

Seriously...why people like to get drunk...you can always trust in Fox News if you want to kill billions of neurons.

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#148 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="DarkOfKnight"]http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/19/truth-about-sopa/ Fox News is defending SOPA.

Oh, yeah, we knew that was going to happen once it started getting coverage. Murdoch is fighting HARD for this bill.
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#150 worlock77
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Whatever you do, guys, for the sake of the Internet in the future, do not, & I repeat, DO NOT, vote for Lamar Smith in for the U.S. House of Representatives, as he's up for re-election this year & is the author of SOPA.

Please. Tell all the uninformed about him, whatever it's your friends, family, or whoever else.

garland51

Unless those people live in that small strip of Texas that is Smith's district then it doesn't matter who you tell.