So I just watched JLA: Doom...

Doom was awesome and it would be exactly what Batman would do. At least that's what I think.

I haven't seen this, but I think I will later today.

And wow. Am I the only one who thinks it's super creepy that Batman could hang out with these people every day(or however often) when all the while he's got step-by-step scenarios planned out on how to kill every one of them? And gimme that sh!t that Batman spouted off at the end- Wonder Woman's, Superman's, and the Flash's wouldn't have worked had they not been fatal. I don't know much about the Martian Manhunter, so I don't know if he would've died eventually or what, but I heard someone say he should've been "burning for weeks." Thoughts?El_Zo1212o

He didn't have instructions on how to kill them. His plans were merely to immobilize, not kill. He said so specifically. Savage modified his plans to kill the League members. We don't know what the original plans were so how do you know they wouldn't have worked if they weren't fatal? Superman's original plan may have been to use a chunk of kryptonite to immobilize him, rather than a kryponite bullet. Afterwards he would lock him in a cell with a red solar lamp. (Similar to his plan in Superman: Red Son. Great story.) The poison used on Wonder Woman would eventually kill her, but he had the antidote. He could have intended to use that to wear her down and cure her after she's been restrained. I don't know about the Flash, but once again, we don't know the original plan or how much it has been modified.

Batman would never kill. He's come cose to killing Joker on numerous occasions but he always stopped himself. Do you really think he'd have plans to kill the other League members? There's no way. 

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]And wow. Am I the only one who thinks it's super creepy that Batman could hang out with these people every day(or however often) when all the while he's got step-by-step scenarios planned out on how to kill every one of them? And gimme that sh!t that Batman spouted off at the end- Wonder Woman's, Superman's, and the Flash's wouldn't have worked had they not been fatal. I don't know much about the Martian Manhunter, so I don't know if he would've died eventually or what, but I heard someone say he should've been "burning for weeks." Thoughts?Tropictrain

He didn't have instructions on how to kill them. His plans were merely to immobilize, not kill. He said so specifically. Savage modified his plans to kill the League members. We don't know what the original plans were so how do you know they wouldn't have worked if they weren't fatal? Superman's original plan may have been to use a chunk of kryptonite to immobilize him, rather than a kryponite bullet. Afterwards he would lock him in a cell with a red solar lamp. (Similar to his plan in Superman: Red Son. Great story.) The poison used on Wonder Woman would eventually kill her, but he had the antidote. He could have intended to use that to wear her down and cure her after she's been restrained. I don't know about the Flash, but once again, we don't know the original plan or how much it has been modified.

Batman would never kill. He's come cose to killing Joker on numerous occasions but he always stopped himself. Do you really think he'd have plans to kill the other League members? There's no way. 

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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]And wow. Am I the only one who thinks it's super creepy that Batman could hang out with these people every day(or however often) when all the while he's got step-by-step scenarios planned out on how to kill every one of them? And gimme that sh!t that Batman spouted off at the end- Wonder Woman's, Superman's, and the Flash's wouldn't have worked had they not been fatal. I don't know much about the Martian Manhunter, so I don't know if he would've died eventually or what, but I heard someone say he should've been "burning for weeks." Thoughts?El_Zo1212o

He didn't have instructions on how to kill them. His plans were merely to immobilize, not kill. He said so specifically. Savage modified his plans to kill the League members. We don't know what the original plans were so how do you know they wouldn't have worked if they weren't fatal? Superman's original plan may have been to use a chunk of kryptonite to immobilize him, rather than a kryponite bullet. Afterwards he would lock him in a cell with a red solar lamp. (Similar to his plan in Superman: Red Son. Great story.) The poison used on Wonder Woman would eventually kill her, but he had the antidote. He could have intended to use that to wear her down and cure her after she's been restrained. I don't know about the Flash, but once again, we don't know the original plan or how much it has been modified.

Batman would never kill. He's come cose to killing Joker on numerous occasions but he always stopped himself. Do you really think he'd have plans to kill the other League members? There's no way. 

Batman beat Wonder Woman in the Red Son story I mentioned. It was never revealed how he did it, but he immobilized her without killing her. And I don't know what his plan is for Flash. But I don't believe Batman is beyond lieing to take them down. Therefore the threat is still there. Maybe that's not a good answer, but I don't know the original plan. But if you know anything about Batman you'd know that his conviction against killing is stronger than any other superhero except MAYBE Superman. I would argue it's about equal to Superman. If he refuses to kill the Joker even after he killed Robin then he's not going to kill the League members.

I have to say TC, you are making this film sound pretty f*cking awesome. I'm excited to say the least.

I have to say TC, you are making this film sound pretty f*cking awesome. I'm excited to say the least.

Serraph105

Martian Manhunter is really scared of fire. I don't think it really hurts him but fire makes him mentally break down. Has to do with the shit that happened on Mars I think.

Martian Manhunter is really scared of fire. I don't think it really hurts him but fire makes him mentally break down. Has to do with the shit that happened on Mars I think.

cain006

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="Tropictrain"]

He didn't have instructions on how to kill them. His plans were merely to immobilize, not kill. He said so specifically. Savage modified his plans to kill the League members. We don't know what the original plans were so how do you know they wouldn't have worked if they weren't fatal? Superman's original plan may have been to use a chunk of kryptonite to immobilize him, rather than a kryponite bullet. Afterwards he would lock him in a cell with a red solar lamp. (Similar to his plan in Superman: Red Son. Great story.) The poison used on Wonder Woman would eventually kill her, but he had the antidote. He could have intended to use that to wear her down and cure her after she's been restrained. I don't know about the Flash, but once again, we don't know the original plan or how much it has been modified.

Batman would never kill. He's come cose to killing Joker on numerous occasions but he always stopped himself. Do you really think he'd have plans to kill the other League members? There's no way. 

Tropictrain

Batman beat Wonder Woman in the Red Son story I mentioned. It was never revealed how he did it, but he immobilized her without killing her. And I don't know what his plan is for Flash. But I don't believe Batman is beyond lieing to take them down. Therefore the threat is still there. Maybe that's not a good answer, but I don't know the original plan. But if you know anything about Batman you'd know that his conviction against killing is stronger than any other superhero except MAYBE Superman. I would argue it's about equal to Superman. If he refuses to kill the Joker even after he killed Robin then he's not going to kill the League members.

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Martian Manhunter is really scared of fire. I don't think it really hurts him but fire makes him mentally break down. Has to do with the shit that happened on Mars I think.

Chicken453

You should watch Green Lantern Emerald Knights and Green Lantern First Flight. They are both really good aswell. Chicken453

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Martian Manhunter is really scared of fire. I don't think it really hurts him but fire makes him mentally break down. Has to do with the shit that happened on Mars I think.

Chicken453

Am I the only one who thinks it's super creepy that Batman could hang out with these people every day(or however often) when all the while he's got step-by-step scenarios planned out on how to kill every one of them?El_Zo1212o

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]Am I the only one who thinks it's super creepy that Batman could hang out with these people every day(or however often) when all the while he's got step-by-step scenarios planned out on how to kill every one of them?ad1x2

Fantastic movie. Superman/Batman: Apocalypse is also very good. wolverine4262

I have to say TC, you are making this film sound pretty f*cking awesome. I'm excited to say the least.

Serraph105

Watch it, it's great.

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]Fantastic movie. Superman/Batman: Apocalypse is also very good. ferrari2001

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"]Fantastic movie. Superman/Batman: Apocalypse is also very good. wolverine4262

I just watched this after reading the thread. Definitely one of the best that DC has put out. cell_dweller

[QUOTE="cell_dweller"]I just watched this after reading the thread. Definitely one of the best that DC has put out. cain006

I hated the ending for Elite

[spoiler] You have the *****ing capacity to take away genetic, alien, and magic power from the Elites, but NEVER TOOK THE ******ING POWERS AWAY FROM A WALKING NUCLEAR DISATER THAT KILLS FOR FUN!!! [/spoiler]

I'm not a batman fan but at the end of the movie he proved how much of a badass he was. 

[QUOTE="cell_dweller"]I just watched this after reading the thread. Definitely one of the best that DC has put out. cain006

It was really good, but Batman Under the Red Hood was even better. Apocalypse was also really good and so was Crisis on Two Earths. DC pretty much kills Marvel in animated movies. Even the Wonder Woman animated movie was extremely good.Kurushio

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[QUOTE="cell_dweller"]I just watched this after reading the thread. Definitely one of the best that DC has put out. cell_dweller

All of those were really good. Batman Year one was beyond great! Superman vs The Elite was up there too.

Out of all the animated movies the only one I really didn't care for was All Star Superman

[QUOTE="Kurushio"]It was really good, but Batman Under the Red Hood was even better. Apocalypse was also really good and so was Crisis on Two Earths. DC pretty much kills Marvel in animated movies. Even the Wonder Woman animated movie was extremely good.El_Zo1212o

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[QUOTE="cell_dweller"]I just watched this after reading the thread. Definitely one of the best that DC has put out. cell_dweller

[QUOTE="cell_dweller"][QUOTE="cain006"]It was actually one of my least favorite. I thought Superman/Batman Public Enemies, Batman Under the Red Hood, Dark Knight Returns, Batman Year One, and Superman vs The Elite were all better.Serraph105

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="Kurushio"]It was really good, but Batman Under the Red Hood was even better. Apocalypse was also really good and so was Crisis on Two Earths. DC pretty much kills Marvel in animated movies. Even the Wonder Woman animated movie was extremely good.Kurushio

The game Doom was better than the movie.Rattlesnake_8

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[QUOTE="cell_dweller"]I just watched this after reading the thread. Definitely one of the best that DC has put out. dercoo

I hated the ending for Elite

[spoiler] You have the *****ing capacity to take away genetic, alien, and magic power from the Elites, but NEVER TOOK THE ******ING POWERS AWAY FROM A WALKING NUCLEAR DISATER THAT KILLS FOR FUN!!! [/spoiler]

Oh and to those of you saying you need to watch the movies, wikipedia has a list of all of them.

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[QUOTE="cain006"]It was actually one of my least favorite. I thought Superman/Batman Public Enemies, Batman Under the Red Hood, Dark Knight Returns, Batman Year One, and Superman vs The Elite were all better.

cain006

I hated the ending for Elite

[spoiler] You have the *****ing capacity to take away genetic, alien, and magic power from the Elites, but NEVER TOOK THE ******ING POWERS AWAY FROM A WALKING NUCLEAR DISATER THAT KILLS FOR FUN!!! [/spoiler]

Oh and to those of you saying you need to watch the movies, wikipedia has a list of all of them.

On action terms it was great. Much better than the resent Braniac film.

Flash is making more sense- didn't what's-his-face say something about him not being able to take the risk? I could see Batman bluffing the Flash right out of his tights like that. But then the quandry- if Batman had to implement this plan, it's because the Flash had gone rogue. So if there's no bang when he tires out or stumbles, then all you get is a few minutes while he catches his breath, then he's off to the races(ha ha) again, but this time knowing the bomb's a dud. How does this result in his capture or neutralization? But Wonder Woman still needs explaining- by the time Cyborg showed up, her vital signs were a mess, but it didn't cause her to miss a single step. Even working herself to death like that, she was still 100%. If Batman couldn't get through her defense and sedate her in time, her heart would've exploded. And all of this just gives me the idea that Ol' Bats planned to kill them all, then just backed off a smidge.El_Zo1212o

Honestly, just replace the bomb with sleep gas bomb or something. Instead of dieing, he's knocked out. Attach a GPS and Batman can retrieve him wherever he is. Simple. But there's no way Batman even considered killing them. It just doesn't make sense. I still don't have a concrete answer for Wonder Woman, and perhaps I'll never have one. I'm not Batman. I don't know what his plan was. But I know it wasn't to kill. 

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]Flash is making more sense- didn't what's-his-face say something about him not being able to take the risk? I could see Batman bluffing the Flash right out of his tights like that. But then the quandry- if Batman had to implement this plan, it's because the Flash had gone rogue. So if there's no bang when he tires out or stumbles, then all you get is a few minutes while he catches his breath, then he's off to the races(ha ha) again, but this time knowing the bomb's a dud. How does this result in his capture or neutralization? But Wonder Woman still needs explaining- by the time Cyborg showed up, her vital signs were a mess, but it didn't cause her to miss a single step. Even working herself to death like that, she was still 100%. If Batman couldn't get through her defense and sedate her in time, her heart would've exploded. And all of this just gives me the idea that Ol' Bats planned to kill them all, then just backed off a smidge.Tropictrain

Honestly, just replace the bomb with sleep gas bomb or something. Instead of dieing, he's knocked out. Attach a GPS and Batman can retrieve him wherever he is. Simple. But there's no way Batman even considered killing them. It just doesn't make sense. I still don't have a concrete answer for Wonder Woman, and perhaps I'll never have one. I'm not Batman. I don't know what his plan was. But I know it wasn't to kill. 

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="cain006"]It was actually one of my least favorite. I thought Superman/Batman Public Enemies, Batman Under the Red Hood, Dark Knight Returns, Batman Year One, and Superman vs The Elite were all better.

cain006

I hated the ending for Elite

[spoiler] You have the *****ing capacity to take away genetic, alien, and magic power from the Elites, but NEVER TOOK THE ******ING POWERS AWAY FROM A WALKING NUCLEAR DISATER THAT KILLS FOR FUN!!! [/spoiler]

Oh and to those of you saying you need to watch the movies, wikipedia has a list of all of them.

i thought the story's basis was a good one, but it wasnt executed too well.The elite sort of came out of nowhere without much explanation for why they do what they do and manchester black's backstory was a little muddled and boring.

I've also seen almost all the animated movies and for anybody that likes dc, i'd recommend checking some of them out too. I'm not a major DC fan, but I like to follow a few comics and i've seen all the 90's/ early 2000's animated shows that are DCAU. it's weird though because some of these movies dont seem to be on par with justice league unlimited in terms of voice acting or production value, however, there are some good fight scenes. Maybe their budget isnt as high.

So this movie was awesome. No I don't find Batman's actions creepy, but if I was on the JLA I would certainly be troubled by at first though I think I would end up siding with Green Lantern. Having a check on all that power is a good thing.

Next up is Public Enemies