Seatbelts

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I don't use the radio in my car. I like to pay attention to what's going on around me since so many people are IDIOTS behind the wheel.

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Going the speed limit? Ain't nobody got time for that.

I'd say he has it down.

br0kenrabbit

The speed limit is not an arbitrary number, it's an engineering decision taking into account the type of asphalt, the grade of the road, the run of the road (straight, curvy, blind hill, etc.), traffic and intersection data.

If you're speeding and someone else hits you, you can still be assigned some fault.

KNOW your limits

KNOW your car

KNOW the weather / road conditions

most important WATCH OTHER PEOPLE. You can't control people but, you sure can watch them.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

So I'm being nice and offering a neighbor a ride about an hour ago since her car is in the shop. We get in, I buckle up, and wait for her to.

She doesn't.

So I tell her, "You'll need to buckle up."

She then goes on a rant about how her uncle was in a car wreck and 'they' said he would have died if he had been wearing his seatbelt, this that and the other thing.

So once she finishes, I'm like "you'll need to buckle up."

So then she huffs and puffs and buckles up, but then takes off the shoulder strap and puts it behind her.

"Properly," I said, at which point I get another long rant about personal freedom and decisions.

I still haven't started the car, so we just sit there in silence for a minute before she finally huffs "fine" and does herself up properly. Then off we go.

Seriously, everyone I know who doesn't wear seatbelts has the same story about an uncle or a cousin (never someone I have met) who 'they' said would have died had they been wearing a seatbelt. It's old, tired and stupid.

Most of the road fatalities I read about usually mentions "seatbelts were not in use". Is it so damn hard to understand basic laws of physics?

Seriously.

lightleggy

I have a friend who refuses to wear seatbelt, not even because he says it's safer without it, he just provides no reason at all, the guy is driving, and I tell him "dude, buckle up" and he says "no, I dont wear a seatbelt".

I go "buckle up I said, it takes no effort"

and he just ignores me, he said something that he isn't afraid to die or something like that, OK cool maybe if he was in some war or doing something heroic, i'd appreciate that comment, but saying that you wont wear a seatbelt because "you aint afraid to die" is just dumb, the "im not afraid to die" card is supposed to be played before doing something that will help other people but might get you killed, not when there is absolutely no reason to be safe.

Also I have a friend who is a paramedic who told me that the "would have died with a seatbelt" thing is BS, he explained the exact reason to me, but I dont remember.

I always buckle up, and everyone should.

sounds like friend needs flip his car...

anyways seat does cause issues in some cases. specially for people who don't wear it correct or smaller people. It can send a lot of force to your chest area and cause internal damage. Just like airpages they can sometimes do more good then harm if your sitting to close.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

I have a friend who refuses to wear seatbelt, not even because he says it's safer without it, he just provides no reason at all, the guy is driving, and I tell him "dude, buckle up" and he says "no, I dont wear a seatbelt".

I go "buckle up I said, it takes no effort"

and he just ignores me, he said something that he isn't afraid to die or something like that, OK cool maybe if he was in some war or doing something heroic, i'd appreciate that comment, but saying that you wont wear a seatbelt because "you aint afraid to die" is just dumb, the "im not afraid to die" card is supposed to be played before doing something that will help other people but might get you killed, not when there is absolutely no reason to be safe.

Also I have a friend who is a paramedic who told me that the "would have died with a seatbelt" thing is BS, he explained the exact reason to me, but I dont remember.

I always buckle up, and everyone should.

br0kenrabbit

Reminds me of this.

Derek Kieper was a smart, funny, intense young man who relished a good debate and would do anything for his friends.

Kieper, a 21-year-old senior at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, died early Tuesday morning when the Ford Explorer he was a passenger in travelled off an icy section of Interstate 80 and rolled several times in a ditch. Kieper, who was riding in the back seat of the Explorer, was ejected from the vehicle.

Two others in the vehicle, including the driver, Luke Havermann of Ogallala, and the front-seat passenger,Nick Uphoff of Randolph Air Force Base in Texas, sustained non-life threatening injuries.

In a column written for the Daily Nebraskan in September, Derek attacked seat belt laws as intrusions on individual liberties and expensive to enforce.

"It is my choice what type of safety precautions I take," he wrote.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

She probably made you change the radio station too. I hate that.

lightleggy

I don't use the radio in my car. I like to pay attention to what's going on around me since so many people are IDIOTS behind the wheel.

I don't sometimes on very short drives, but a vast majority of the time I wear my seatbelt.

Wow, 31 votes in a row on Always, this has got to be a record, quick! someone take a snapshot.Toph_Girl250

Unfortunately, someone had to vote differently.

Yes, I'm not Evil Kenevil

[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"]Wow, 31 votes in a row on Always, this has got to be a record, quick! someone take a snapshot.ROFLCOPTER603

Unfortunately, someone had to vote differently.

Sorry I was trying to be honest

[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"]Wow, 31 votes in a row on Always, this has got to be a record, quick! someone take a snapshot.ROFLCOPTER603

Unfortunately, someone had to vote differently.

Your car, your rules. This reminds me of people who change the radio station the moment they step in a car.

For me it become second nature to put my seatbelt on before/as i turn on my car.

in others cars i wear a seatbelt. though sometimes i dont in the back seat depending on the driver. i know the dangers and such.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

She probably made you change the radio station too. I hate that.

br0kenrabbit

I don't use the radio in my car. I like to pay attention to what's going on around me since so many people are IDIOTS behind the wheel.

i make others wear a seatbelt in my car. as i am responsible for the passengers in my car. they wouldnt get the ticket, i would

if i happen to not have my seatbelt on in someone elses car and am asked to put it on, i will put it on, no question.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

She probably made you change the radio station too. I hate that.

Wolfetan

I don't use the radio in my car. I like to pay attention to what's going on around me since so many people are IDIOTS behind the wheel.

Been driving since 1992 and I've never got a ticket or been faulted in an accident (been in 3). Why the insult? Just feel like being a dick?

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

I don't use the radio in my car. I like to pay attention to what's going on around me since so many people are IDIOTS behind the wheel.

k2theswiss

[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"]Wow, 31 votes in a row on Always, this has got to be a record, quick! someone take a snapshot.Bane_09

Unfortunately, someone had to vote differently.

Sorry I was trying to be honest

I kind of made that sound more critical than it was supposed to. I honestly don't wear it all the time- if I'm moving my car to another parking space I won't bother. But if it's anywhere more than a few feet or where I have to travel on the road I will.

My car screams at me if i dont, so.. no choice lol. I feel naked in a car if im not wearing a seatbelt.

BUT.. if its an old car with a lap belt. ..idk. tough call. It might keep you in the car but could do alot of internal damage. Bit of a gamble that..

Motokid6

Always wear them b/c I'm not an idiot.

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] Everytime I see someone driving with earbuds, I just feel like ramming their car and then telling them "I tried to warn you to move, you didnt do anything!". That kind of things can cost people's lives.lightleggy

good thing my crowbar has a stab feature on it

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="k2theswiss"] i drive with my earbuds lol. I do have them turned to lower then i use when i am outside. but there something wrong with my Fking wires. BTW sir that would cost your life... Someone ram me for no reason, you better hit that gas peddle with all your might because i will crack you with a crowbark2theswiss

good thing my crowbar has a stab feature on it

I think i'll stick with the blunt trauma

Im pretty sure I also have a combat knife in the glovebox...and if im driving my grandpa's car, he has a hidden gun in it.

Always.

i make others wear a seatbelt in my car. as i am responsible for the passengers in my car. they wouldnt get the ticket, i would

if i happen to not have my seatbelt on in someone elses car and am asked to put it on, i will put it on, no question.

konvikt_17

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] That's awesome because I carry an iron bat :lol:lightleggy

good thing my crowbar has a stab feature on it

I think i'll stick with the blunt trauma

Im pretty sure I also have a combat knife in the glovebox...and if im driving my grandpa's car, he has a hidden gun in it.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Always wear them b/c I'm not an idiot.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Wolfetan"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

I don't use the radio in my car. I like to pay attention to what's going on around me since so many people are IDIOTS behind the wheel.

br0kenrabbit

Been driving since 1992 and I've never got a ticket or been faulted in an accident (been in 3). Why the insult? Just feel like being a dick?

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="Wolfetan"] Ok, Mr. Perfect Driver. Wolfetan

Been driving since 1992 and I've never got a ticket or been faulted in an accident (been in 3). Why the insult? Just feel like being a dick?

It is stupid to mandate the use of seatbelts. Any intelligent person will use it anyways, anyone stupid enough to refuse to where one deserves the consequences of his actions, and anyone who forgets to wear it shouldn't be pulled over and fined for an honest mistake.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]It is stupid to mandate the use of seatbelts. Any intelligent person will use it anyways, anyone stupid enough to refuse to where one deserves the consequences of his actions, and anyone who forgets to wear it shouldn't be pulled over and fined for an honest mistake.Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]It is stupid to mandate the use of seatbelts. Any intelligent person will use it anyways, anyone stupid enough to refuse to where one deserves the consequences of his actions, and anyone who forgets to wear it shouldn't be pulled over and fined for an honest mistake.Fightingfan

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

i make others wear a seatbelt in my car. as i am responsible for the passengers in my car. they wouldnt get the ticket, i would

if i happen to not have my seatbelt on in someone elses car and am asked to put it on, i will put it on, no question.

Laihendi

ah

ive never actually had it happen, nor witnessed it. just heard stories and such. might be different depending on location.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Always wear them b/c I'm not an idiot.

Laihendi

Nope, you come off very arrogant.Wolfetan

You come off as a dick. Deal.

Lai, have you made a decision on rather or not to write that essay?dave123321

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]It is stupid to mandate the use of seatbelts. Any intelligent person will use it anyways, anyone stupid enough to refuse to where one deserves the consequences of his actions, and anyone who forgets to wear it shouldn't be pulled over and fined for an honest mistake.Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]It is stupid to mandate the use of seatbelts. Any intelligent person will use it anyways, anyone stupid enough to refuse to where one deserves the consequences of his actions, and anyone who forgets to wear it shouldn't be pulled over and fined for an honest mistake.Laihendi

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

She probably made you change the radio station too. I hate that.

br0kenrabbit

I don't use the radio in my car. I like to pay attention to what's going on around me since so many people are IDIOTS behind the wheel.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]It is stupid to mandate the use of seatbelts. Any intelligent person will use it anyways, anyone stupid enough to refuse to where one deserves the consequences of his actions, and anyone who forgets to wear it shouldn't be pulled over and fined for an honest mistake.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]It is stupid to mandate the use of seatbelts. Any intelligent person will use it anyways, anyone stupid enough to refuse to where one deserves the consequences of his actions, and anyone who forgets to wear it shouldn't be pulled over and fined for an honest mistake.Aljosa23

A guy flys out of his car and hits his head on the pavement, he's in a coma for two years after that. Guess who pays for those expensive bills? Everybody else.