Romney Donates More to Charity than Obama and Biden Combined

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#51 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"] Maybe not compared to other politicians, but compared to most he's pretty wealthy. At the very least he can do better than 1.5 percent of his income and only five large.Rhazakna

His net worth is only $215,000, which for a 69 year old man, is not anything to brag about. The median net worth for his demographic is $232,000.

Five grand is still a pathetic figure for the VP. He could afford a lot more, and should, especially since he's supporting Obama's "sacrifice" rhetoric.

Why do you care at all about how much he gives to charity?
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"] how much do federal senators get paid? I know Congressmen don't get government lodgings like the White House.

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$174,000 + benefits.

Do all Senators get paid equally, or does Committee status effect pay? I think the Speaker of the House makes more money than other congressmen, I don't know if the same applies to the minority and majority leaders and the whips.

Party leaders make $190,000ish I think. $174,000 is the minimum.

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And it's all tax deductible. What's the point of this?

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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] His net worth is only $215,000, which for a 69 year old man, is not anything to brag about. The median net worth for his demographic is $232,000.-Sun_Tzu-
Five grand is still a pathetic figure for the VP. He could afford a lot more, and should, especially since he's supporting Obama's "sacrifice" rhetoric.

Why do you care at all about how much he gives to charity?

Because he talks about 'sharing wealth' and all that garbage and yet doesn't share what little he has.
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And it's all tax deductible. What's the point of this?

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Romney didn't write off all his donations. According to the TC's article "He left $1.8 million in donations off his return in order to live up to a statement he made about always having paid at least a 13 percent tax rate on his income. "

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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] His net worth is only $215,000, which for a 69 year old man, is not anything to brag about. The median net worth for his demographic is $232,000.

-Sun_Tzu-

Five grand is still a pathetic figure for the VP. He could afford a lot more, and should, especially since he's supporting Obama's "sacrifice" rhetoric.

Why do you care at all about how much he gives to charity?

Because he supports the idea of people who have more money giving more money. So his donations should reflect that in some way. And it doesn't at all. Hypocritical.

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#57 dsrules13
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And it's all tax deductible. What's the point of this?

Shewgenja

He didn't write in $1.8 million of his donations so his tax rate would be over 13%. He could have kept more money. He left off more than Biden has donated in his entire life.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] Five grand is still a pathetic figure for the VP. He could afford a lot more, and should, especially since he's supporting Obama's "sacrifice" rhetoric.

Why do you care at all about how much he gives to charity?

Because he talks about 'sharing wealth' and all that garbage and yet doesn't share what little he has.

That sounds pretty petty.
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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] His net worth is only $215,000, which for a 69 year old man, is not anything to brag about. The median net worth for his demographic is $232,000.-Sun_Tzu-
Five grand is still a pathetic figure for the VP. He could afford a lot more, and should, especially since he's supporting Obama's "sacrifice" rhetoric.

Why do you care at all about how much he gives to charity?

Because politicians who claim to be for the "common good" should lead by example in their personal lives. If he wants people to sacrifice, he should share in that himself.
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One possible explanation for Biden's lack of wealth is that he used a large portion of it to finance his reelection campaigns all the years he was in the Senate. He also ran for President in 1988 and 2008.

Just a thought.

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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] Five grand is still a pathetic figure for the VP. He could afford a lot more, and should, especially since he's supporting Obama's "sacrifice" rhetoric.

Why do you care at all about how much he gives to charity?

Because politicians who claim to be for the "common good" should lead by example in their personal lives. If he wants people to sacrifice, he should share in that himself.

So essentially he should merely for PR reasons.
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Collective action problems, yall
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Why do you care at all about how much he gives to charity? -Sun_Tzu-
Because he talks about 'sharing wealth' and all that garbage and yet doesn't share what little he has.

That sounds pretty petty.

Wait....Obama and Biden want to raise taxes to 'spread the wealth' through income redistribution and yet Biden only donated 1.5% of his income?

So he love to give people money....just not his own.

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#64 Rhazakna
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Why do you care at all about how much he gives to charity?

Because politicians who claim to be for the "common good" should lead by example in their personal lives. If he wants people to sacrifice, he should share in that himself.

So essentially he should merely for PR reasons.

To a large extent, yes. But it would also show he puts his money where his mouth is, and what's good for the gander is good for the goose, as it were.
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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Why do you care at all about how much he gives to charity? -Sun_Tzu-
Because politicians who claim to be for the "common good" should lead by example in their personal lives. If he wants people to sacrifice, he should share in that himself.

So essentially he should merely for PR reasons.

Well if he really believes in what he says and tells other people they should do then he should do it for moral reasons. Not just so he looks good.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Because he talks about 'sharing wealth' and all that garbage and yet doesn't share what little he has.KC_Hokie

That sounds pretty petty.

Wait....Obama and Biden want to raise taxes to 'spread the wealth' through income redistribution and yet Biden only donated 1.5% of his income?

So he love to give people money....just not his own.

He doesn't pay taxes now? I think he pays quite a lot, he is in the job creator tax bracket after all.

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One possible explanation for Biden's lack of wealth is that he used a large portion of it to finance his reelection campaigns all the years he was in the Senate. He also ran for President in 1988 and 2008.

Just a thought.

CycleOfViolence

Or he invested his life savings in Amtrak. Either way he turned millions of dollars of income into thousands.

This is the guy who want to raise taxes so he can spend more taxpayer money.

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Of course, Romney had a lot more to give away.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] Because politicians who claim to be for the "common good" should lead by example in their personal lives. If he wants people to sacrifice, he should share in that himself.dsrules13

So essentially he should merely for PR reasons.

Well if he really believes in what he says and tells other people they should do then he should do it for moral reasons. Not just so he looks good.

He's not attempting to raise taxes for everyone but himself. There are no exemptions for him in the policy he is trying to implement.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] That sounds pretty petty. -Sun_Tzu-

Wait....Obama and Biden want to raise taxes to 'spread the wealth' through income redistribution and yet Biden only donated 1.5% of his income?

So he love to give people money....just not his own.

He doesn't pay taxes now? I think he pays quiet a lot, he is in the job creator tax bracket after all.

Donating is giving more than what you are being taxed which is what he and Obama are arguing. Yet he gives 1.5%.
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[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

One possible explanation for Biden's lack of wealth is that he used a large portion of it to finance his reelection campaigns all the years he was in the Senate. He also ran for President in 1988 and 2008.

Just a thought.

KC_Hokie

Or he invested his life savings in Amtrak. Either way he turned millions of dollars of income into thousands.

This is the guy who want to raise taxes so he can spend more taxpayer money.

Ain't no spending increases in the legislation to raise taxes.
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His net worth is only $215,000

-Sun_Tzu-

How in Jesus fvcking Christ's name did he manage to do that?

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Wait....Obama and Biden want to raise taxes to 'spread the wealth' through income redistribution and yet Biden only donated 1.5% of his income?

So he love to give people money....just not his own.

KC_Hokie
He doesn't pay taxes now? I think he pays quiet a lot, he is in the job creator tax bracket after all.

Donating is giving more than what you are being taxed which is what he and Obama are arguing. Yet he gives 1.5%.

No, the only thing they are arguing for is letting the Bush tax cuts expire for the top income bracket. .
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

One possible explanation for Biden's lack of wealth is that he used a large portion of it to finance his reelection campaigns all the years he was in the Senate. He also ran for President in 1988 and 2008.

Just a thought.

Abbeten

Or he invested his life savings in Amtrak. Either way he turned millions of dollars of income into thousands.

This is the guy who want to raise taxes so he can spend more taxpayer money.

Ain't no spending increases in the legislation to raise taxes.

Even if spending is flat they still have to tax for it or borrow from China or print it out of thin air. Either way he loves to spend other people's money while he isn't generous with his own.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] He doesn't pay taxes now? I think he pays quiet a lot, he is in the job creator tax bracket after all.

Donating is giving more than what you are being taxed which is what he and Obama are arguing. Yet he gives 1.5%.

No, the only thing they are arguing for is letting the Bush tax cuts expire for the top income bracket. .

Yea so he can spend it. They aren't going to cut spending.
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[QUOTE="dsrules13"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] So essentially he should merely for PR reasons. Abbeten

Well if he really believes in what he says and tells other people they should do then he should do it for moral reasons. Not just so he looks good.

He's not attempting to raise taxes for everyone but himself. There are no exemptions for him in the policy he is trying to implement.

So then he should have no problem donating more money. He needs to lead by example here, show he believes in the idea of giving back.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

His net worth is only $215,000

coolbeans90

How in Jesus fvcking Christ's name did he manage to do that?

Gambling?
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

His net worth is only $215,000

coolbeans90

How in Jesus fvcking Christ's name did he manage to do that?

He invested his life savings in Amtrak and solar panels.
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Or he invested his life savings in Amtrak. Either way he turned millions of dollars of income into thousands.

This is the guy who want to raise taxes so he can spend more taxpayer money.

KC_Hokie
Ain't no spending increases in the legislation to raise taxes.

Even if spending is flat they still have to tax for it or borrow from China or print it out of thin air. Either way he loves to spend other people's money while he isn't generous with his own.

Even ignoring the fact that we own most of our debt, you claimed that he wants to raise taxes so he can spend more money. Which is untrue. For one, there's no need to raise taxes to increase spending. For another, the bill to raise taxes doesn't include new spending.
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="dsrules13"]

Well if he really believes in what he says and tells other people they should do then he should do it for moral reasons. Not just so he looks good.

dsrules13

He's not attempting to raise taxes for everyone but himself. There are no exemptions for him in the policy he is trying to implement.

So then he should have no problem donating more money. He needs to lead by example here, show he believes in the idea of giving back.

How would donating more money be leading by example when his goal is to let the Bush tax cuts on the top bracket expire? The legislation would apply to him as well.
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[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

One possible explanation for Biden's lack of wealth is that he used a large portion of it to finance his reelection campaigns all the years he was in the Senate. He also ran for President in 1988 and 2008.

Just a thought.

KC_Hokie

Or he invested his life savings in Amtrak. Either way he turned millions of dollars of income into thousands.

This is the guy who want to raise taxes so he can spend more taxpayer money.

Obviously his personal investments factor into it as well. I just thought I'd introduce that possibility into the equation since maintaining a political campaigns isn't usually a cheap endeavor.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Donating is giving more than what you are being taxed which is what he and Obama are arguing. Yet he gives 1.5%. KC_Hokie
No, the only thing they are arguing for is letting the Bush tax cuts expire for the top income bracket. .

Yea so he can spend it. They aren't going to cut spending.

For the past year and a half Obama has been trying to negotiate a substantial deficit reduction plan that would mostly be composed of spending cuts, but Republicans have refuse to sign off on any plan that raises taxes by even a dime.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] Ain't no spending increases in the legislation to raise taxes. Abbeten
Even if spending is flat they still have to tax for it or borrow from China or print it out of thin air. Either way he loves to spend other people's money while he isn't generous with his own.

Even ignoring the fact that we own most of our debt, you claimed that he wants to raise taxes so he can spend more money. Which is untrue. For one, there's no need to raise taxes to increase spending. For another, the bill to raise taxes doesn't include new spending.

We are borrowing at least 34 cents out of every dollar. The rest comes from taxes or printing.

Biden and Obama want to spend that taxpayer money to 'share the burden' or whatever and yet Biden doesn't donate his own.

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My 9 year old cousin gave $17 to charity... That was 100% of all his earnings and savings...

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[QUOTE="dsrules13"]

[QUOTE="Abbeten"] He's not attempting to raise taxes for everyone but himself. There are no exemptions for him in the policy he is trying to implement. Abbeten

So then he should have no problem donating more money. He needs to lead by example here, show he believes in the idea of giving back.

How would donating more money be leading by example when his goal is to let the Bush tax cuts on the top bracket expire? The legislation would apply to him as well.

I know, which means he obviously has no problem giving money. If he can spend more on taxes he can spend more on donations. And when I said leading by example I was referring to the fact he supports the idea of spreading the wealth.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] No, the only thing they are arguing for is letting the Bush tax cuts expire for the top income bracket. . -Sun_Tzu-
Yea so he can spend it. They aren't going to cut spending.

For the past year and a half Obama has been trying to negotiate a substantial deficit reduction plan that would mostly be composed of spending cuts, but Republicans have refuse to sign off on any plan that raises taxes by even a dime.

lol...he had a super majority in Congress for nearly two years and set spending records.

Now all of a sudden it's the other party's fault. American's aren't THAT stupid.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea so he can spend it. They aren't going to cut spending.KC_Hokie

For the past year and a half Obama has been trying to negotiate a substantial deficit reduction plan that would mostly be composed of spending cuts, but Republicans have refuse to sign off on any plan that raises taxes by even a dime.

lol...he had a super majority in Congress for nearly two years and set spending records.

Now all of a sudden it's the other party's fault. American's aren't THAT stupid.

He had a super majority for a grand total of 130 days. Obama was bending over backwards to get a substantial deficit reduction plan of mostly spending cuts last year during the debt ceiling crisis and Republicans refused to raise taxes at all. Those are the facts. To act like all Obama wants to do is spend more and more and more is just not in line with reality. Romney even complains on the campaign trail about all the money he's cutting.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] For the past year and a half Obama has been trying to negotiate a substantial deficit reduction plan that would mostly be composed of spending cuts, but Republicans have refuse to sign off on any plan that raises taxes by even a dime. -Sun_Tzu-

lol...he had a super majority in Congress for nearly two years and set spending records.

Now all of a sudden it's the other party's fault. American's aren't THAT stupid.

He had a super majority for a grand total of 130 days. Obama was bending over backwards to get a substantial deficit reduction plan of mostly spending cuts last year during the debt ceiling crisis and Republicans refused to raise taxes at all. Those are the facts. To act like all Obama wants to do is spend more and more and more is just not in line with reality. Romney even complains on the campaign trail about all the money he's cutting.

Good luck with that argument. Facts don't lie. By the way...how many democrats voted for Obama's budgets in the Senate?
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="dsrules13"]

So then he should have no problem donating more money. He needs to lead by example here, show he believes in the idea of giving back.

dsrules13

How would donating more money be leading by example when his goal is to let the Bush tax cuts on the top bracket expire? The legislation would apply to him as well.

I know, which means he obviously has no problem giving money. If he can spend more on taxes he can spend more on donations. And when I said leading by example I was referring to the fact he supports the idea of spreading the wealth.

You're assuming a connection between taxes and charitable donations that isn't there.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]lol...he had a super majority in Congress for nearly two years and set spending records.

Now all of a sudden it's the other party's fault. American's aren't THAT stupid.

KC_Hokie
He had a super majority for a grand total of 130 days. Obama was bending over backwards to get a substantial deficit reduction plan of mostly spending cuts last year during the debt ceiling crisis and Republicans refused to raise taxes at all. Those are the facts. To act like all Obama wants to do is spend more and more and more is just not in line with reality. Romney even complains on the campaign trail about all the money he's cutting.

Good luck with that argument. Facts don't lie. By the way...how many democrats voted for Obama's budgets in the Senate?

Yes, facts don't lie, so you should probably stop spewing bullsh!t.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] He had a super majority for a grand total of 130 days. Obama was bending over backwards to get a substantial deficit reduction plan of mostly spending cuts last year during the debt ceiling crisis and Republicans refused to raise taxes at all. Those are the facts. To act like all Obama wants to do is spend more and more and more is just not in line with reality. Romney even complains on the campaign trail about all the money he's cutting. -Sun_Tzu-
Good luck with that argument. Facts don't lie. By the way...how many democrats voted for Obama's budgets in the Senate?

Yes, facts don't lie, so you should probably stop spewing bullsh!t.

The facts show he didn't even work with his own party on budgets and spending.Then you tried to blame it on the other party.

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#92 coolbeans90
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I'll prob starting voting Dem when they've gotten to the point where they've become more Republican than the Republicans were themselves. It's getting close.

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#93 Abbeten
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Even if spending is flat they still have to tax for it or borrow from China or print it out of thin air. Either way he loves to spend other people's money while he isn't generous with his own.KC_Hokie

Even ignoring the fact that we own most of our debt, you claimed that he wants to raise taxes so he can spend more money. Which is untrue. For one, there's no need to raise taxes to increase spending. For another, the bill to raise taxes doesn't include new spending.

We are borrowing at least 34 cents out of every dollar. The rest comes from taxes or printing.

Biden and Obama want to spend that taxpayer money to 'share the burden' or whatever and yet Biden doesn't donate his own.

You don't seem to be making a cogent point here. You want Biden to make charitable donations to the US Treasury?
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#94 KC_Hokie
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I'll prob starting voting Dem when they've gotten to the point where they've become more Republican than the Republicans were themselves. It's getting close.

coolbeans90
You can always vote for Gary Johnson and libertarians.
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#95 Legolas_Katarn
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Who cares about what any of them give to charity.

Mormon church isn't charity lol

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#96 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Good luck with that argument. Facts don't lie. By the way...how many democrats voted for Obama's budgets in the Senate? KC_Hokie
Yes, facts don't lie, so you should probably stop spewing bullsh!t.

The facts show he didn't even work with his own party on budgets and spending.

That's just a complete falsehood. These budgets that congress votes down are not Obama's actual budgets, they're just republican amendments that they say are Obama's budget.
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#97 dsrules13
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"] How would donating more money be leading by example when his goal is to let the Bush tax cuts on the top bracket expire? The legislation would apply to him as well. Abbeten

I know, which means he obviously has no problem giving money. If he can spend more on taxes he can spend more on donations. And when I said leading by example I was referring to the fact he supports the idea of spreading the wealth.

You're assuming a connection between taxes and charitable donations that isn't there.

Oh, I'm sorry for any confusion there. I'm not assuming a direct correlation, just the general idea of giving money.

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#98 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="Abbeten"] Even ignoring the fact that we own most of our debt, you claimed that he wants to raise taxes so he can spend more money. Which is untrue. For one, there's no need to raise taxes to increase spending. For another, the bill to raise taxes doesn't include new spending. Abbeten

We are borrowing at least 34 cents out of every dollar. The rest comes from taxes or printing.

Biden and Obama want to spend that taxpayer money to 'share the burden' or whatever and yet Biden doesn't donate his own.

You don't seem to be making a cogent point here. You want Biden to make charitable donations to the US Treasury?

It's simple....Biden wants to force people to pay more taxes to 'share the burden' and for income redistribution via taxation because 'it's the right thing to do'.

Then he donates a grand total of 1.5% of his own money. That's hypocrisy at it's finest.

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#99 ShadowMoses900
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Most of that goes to the Mormon Church, which makes it's members give a percentage of their money in order to be Mormons. Mormonism is really the only religion I can think of that makes you pay to be in order to become one. God does not care about money, he only cares about your soul and your actions.

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#100 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I'll prob starting voting Dem when they've gotten to the point where they've become more Republican than the Republicans were themselves. It's getting close.

KC_Hokie

You can always vote for Gary Johnson and libertarians.

There are things I like about them, but they're a wee too far in each direction. Also, dat Federal Reserve thing. Moreover, I would feel a little disoriented voting w/ the climate change deniers, 9/11 conspiracy theorists and the like.