A real man doesn't deal fatal blows to women, especially when there no immediate threat.thebest31406
...according to you a woman is beyond being stopped from ending an innocent person's life?:lol:
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A real man doesn't deal fatal blows to women, especially when there no immediate threat.thebest31406
...according to you a woman is beyond being stopped from ending an innocent person's life?:lol:
I dont know if i would hit her but i would throw her out the door and lock the bus door. I think that busdriver overracted, but the female was acting up. so i think both parties are at fault, video is funny though. :lol:
[QUOTE="thebest31406"]A real man doesn't deal fatal blows to women, especially when there no immediate threat.QUOTE]
There was an immediate threat, the woman tried to choke him while he was driving a bus full of people. She could have caused a wreck due to her reckless behaviour that could have at least injured someone on the bus or other drivers in other vehicles on the road if not resulting in the death of others. She was an immediate threat.
The bus driver did stop the bus. He just didn't get out of the seat while it was moving just to hit her. Also, no one in their right mind would turn their attention away from someone how is attacking you just to pick up a phone to make a call. It's a good way to get injured.
She was a threat no matter how you look at it.
you totally ignored the part where the girl knocked the guy's phone out of his hand. so how the hell was he supposed to call anyone? AND YOU STILL HAVENT ANSWERED ME: if the guy did called the cops and did nothing to her, what would happen once the cops arrive? im pretty sure she wouldnt have cooperated and the cops would have been forced to beat her down in order to restrain her, would it mean that those cops are no longer men as well?lightleggy
Well that's just it; beating her down in order to restrain her wouldn't have been necessary. There would be at least two cops vs one woman. They could restrain her by hand or simply use tasers. Same with the driver. As easy as it was to slide her out of bus after the blow, he could have easily manhandled her and tossed her out of the bus. Nothing he did was in the interested of the passengers; the only thing that was in danger was his ego. That's why he uppercut her to hell, because he was pissed off. His intent was clear right after the beating "I don't care. She wanna act like a man, Imma treat her like one" So this whole rationale of uppercutting her to hell for the safety of the bus is just nonsense - the passengers were safe.
I'm calling you a troll for still blindly insisting in your point and ignoring evidence/facts/logic, lightleggy
Well it's simply not true that I'm ignoring the evidence/facts. As far as the logic, no, I don't abide the logic. So far folks here have argued that his actions were justified;
1.because of the "tit for tat" notion
2. because she endangered the lives of the passengers
3. because she ran her mouth
With regard to number 1; one has to ask the question, was he justified in uppercutting her because she spat on him and for allegedly putting his hands around his throat (keeping in mind that he didn't hit her while she was doing this, but after). My answer is no. Why? He's a bigger, stronger, older man and she's a younger, smaller, weaker woman. That's the way I feel about and it's not going to change. Now you can call me a troll all you want for maintaining my stance but I think your best bet would be to stop asking the question all together because the answer will always be the same.
What about notion of uppercutting her for the sake of passengers? Well, it's clear to me that he did just about everything wrong from the very beginning; bantering back and forth with a drunk, ignorant woman "looks like somebody sliced your face up" That would provoke any nutjob. So she spits and grabs him. Now he gets up. At this point there are so many things he could have done; call the cops, radio hq, etc. Mind you that at this point, the bus has stopped so the passengers are safe. The only thing that was in danger was the drivers ego. He's pissed off so he uppercuts her to hell; that was a punitive action, not a preventive one. His intent was made clear simply from his statement "I don't care. She wanna act like a man, Imma treat her like one." Passengers are trying to break it up all the while he manages to take hold of her hair and....well...I'm not sure what he was trying to, pull it out maybe? So no, protecting the passengers wasn't a factor; the woman posed no danger to the passengers - the bus stopped.
No. 3? Well, I think you know my answer to that one.
As easy as it was to slide her out of bus after the blow, he could have easily manhandled her and tossed her out of the bus. thebest31406Considering her block had be resoundingly knocked off by the time he hustled her off the bus, you have to know she was dazed and hadn't fully regained control of herself. When she had, she came spitting and fighting back onto the bus. And by the bye, that wasn't her hair. She had some animal piled on her head which fell off either when he hit her or when he tossed her ass off the bus.
[QUOTE="thebest31406"]As easy as it was to slide her out of bus after the blow, he could have easily manhandled her and tossed her out of the bus. El_Zo1212oConsidering her block had be resoundingly knocked off by the time he hustled her off the bus, you have to know she was dazed and hadn't fully regained control of herself. When she had, she came spitting and fighting back onto the bus. And by the bye, that wasn't her hair. She had some animal piled on her head which fell off either when he hit her or when he tossed her ass off the bus. Oh, an "animal" was it? I thought perhaps it was a wig or a weave, of which he still tried to pull off.
I was just about to say it's fun, but then I realized it really isn't. I think I'll just go to sleep instead. Thanks.Are you guys STILL arguing with this guy? I gave up 3 pages ago. He's not gonna get it.
Lucky_Krystal
[QUOTE="lightleggy"]you totally ignored the part where the girl knocked the guy's phone out of his hand. so how the hell was he supposed to call anyone? AND YOU STILL HAVENT ANSWERED ME: if the guy did called the cops and did nothing to her, what would happen once the cops arrive? im pretty sure she wouldnt have cooperated and the cops would have been forced to beat her down in order to restrain her, would it mean that those cops are no longer men as well?thebest31406
Well that's just it; beating her down in order to restrain her wouldn't have been necessary. There would be at least two cops vs one woman. They could restrain her by hand or simply use tasers. Same with the driver. As easy as it was to slide her out of bus after the blow, he could have easily manhandled her and tossed her out of the bus. Nothing he did was in the interested of the passengers; the only thing that was in danger was his ego. That's why he uppercut her to hell, because he was pissed off. His intent was clear right after the beating "I don't care. She wanna act like a man, Imma treat her like one" So this whole rationale of uppercutting her to hell for the safety of the bus is just nonsense - the passengers were safe.
I'm calling you a troll for still blindly insisting in your point and ignoring evidence/facts/logic, lightleggy
Well it's simply not true that I'm ignoring the evidence/facts. As far as the logic, no, I don't abide the logic. So far folks here have argued that his actions were justified;
1.because of the "tit for tat" notion
2. because she endangered the lives of the passengers
3. because she ran her mouth
With regard to number 1; one has to ask the question, was he justified in uppercutting her because she spat on him and for allegedly putting his hands around his throat (keeping in mind that he didn't hit her while she was doing this, but after). My answer is no. Why? He's a bigger, stronger, older man and she's a younger, smaller, weaker woman. That's the way I feel about and it's not going to change. Now you can call me a troll all you want for maintaining my stance but I think your best bet would be to stop asking the question all together because the answer will always be the same.
What about notion of uppercutting her for the sake of passengers? Well, it's clear to me that he did just about everything wrong from the very beginning; bantering back and forth with a drunk, ignorant woman "looks like somebody sliced your face up" That would provoke any nutjob. So she spits and grabs him. Now he gets up. At this point there are so many things he could have done; call the cops, radio hq, etc. Mind you that at this point, the bus has stopped so the passengers are safe. The only thing that was in danger was the drivers ego. He's pissed off so he uppercuts her to hell; that was a punitive action, not a preventive one. His intent was made clear simply from his statement "I don't care. She wanna act like a man, Imma treat her like one." Passengers are trying to break it up all the while he manages to take hold of her hair and....well...I'm not sure what he was trying to, pull it out maybe? So no, protecting the passengers wasn't a factor; the woman posed no danger to the passengers - the bus stopped.
No. 3? Well, I think you know my answer to that one.
lol ok wait so beating women is wrong, but using a tasser on them is not? i'll take a beating over a tasser any day of the week, you know, those things that kill a bunch of people a year? yeah I think I'd rather be hit thank you. and how was the guy supposed to hit her while she was choking him if he had his hands on the wheel? you know because of the whole "driving a moving bus" thing. you just proved how double moralist you are, no reason to argue further. you have no respect for women, you consider them weak and incapable of defending themselves, that is not how a man thinks, that is how a biggoted person thinks.[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]
Well that's just it; beating her down in order to restrain her wouldn't have been necessary. There would be at least two cops vs one woman. They could restrain her by hand or simply use tasers. Same with the driver. As easy as it was to slide her out of bus after the blow, he could have easily manhandled her and tossed her out of the bus. Nothing he did was in the interested of the passengers; the only thing that was in danger was his ego. That's why he uppercut her to hell, because he was pissed off. His intent was clear right after the beating "I don't care. She wanna act like a man, Imma treat her like one" So this whole rationale of uppercutting her to hell for the safety of the bus is just nonsense - the passengers were safe.
[QUOTE="lightleggy"]I'm calling you a troll for still blindly insisting in your point and ignoring evidence/facts/logic, lightleggy
Well it's simply not true that I'm ignoring the evidence/facts. As far as the logic, no, I don't abide the logic. So far folks here have argued that his actions were justified;
1.because of the "tit for tat" notion
2. because she endangered the lives of the passengers
3. because she ran her mouth
With regard to number 1; one has to ask the question, was he justified in uppercutting her because she spat on him and for allegedly putting his hands around his throat (keeping in mind that he didn't hit her while she was doing this, but after). My answer is no. Why? He's a bigger, stronger, older man and she's a younger, smaller, weaker woman. That's the way I feel about and it's not going to change. Now you can call me a troll all you want for maintaining my stance but I think your best bet would be to stop asking the question all together because the answer will always be the same.
What about notion of uppercutting her for the sake of passengers? Well, it's clear to me that he did just about everything wrong from the very beginning; bantering back and forth with a drunk, ignorant woman "looks like somebody sliced your face up" That would provoke any nutjob. So she spits and grabs him. Now he gets up. At this point there are so many things he could have done; call the cops, radio hq, etc. Mind you that at this point, the bus has stopped so the passengers are safe. The only thing that was in danger was the drivers ego. He's pissed off so he uppercuts her to hell; that was a punitive action, not a preventive one. His intent was made clear simply from his statement "I don't care. She wanna act like a man, Imma treat her like one." Passengers are trying to break it up all the while he manages to take hold of her hair and....well...I'm not sure what he was trying to, pull it out maybe? So no, protecting the passengers wasn't a factor; the woman posed no danger to the passengers - the bus stopped.
No. 3? Well, I think you know my answer to that one.
lol ok wait so beating women is wrong, but using a tasser on them is not? i'll take a beating over a tasser any day of the week, you know, those things that kill a bunch of people a year? yeah I think I'd rather be hit thank you. and how was the guy supposed to hit her while she was choking him if he had his hands on the wheel? you know because of the whole "driving a moving bus" thing. you just proved how double moralist you are, no reason to argue further. you have no respect for women, you consider them weak and incapable of defending themselves, that is not how a man thinks, that is how a biggoted person thinks. Provided that the taser is necessary. Assuming that the woman is so dangerous and over-the-top that she'd even go as far as attack the cops, I reckon there could be an argument for a cop using any means to restrain her."and how was the guy supposed to hit her while she was choking him if he had his hands on the wheel? you know because of the whole "driving a moving bus" thing."
Did you read my previous statement? Once the bus stopped, there was no reason to hit her - that was my point. There was no danger, so the uppercut was unnecessary and purely punitive.
"you have no respect for women, you consider them weak and incapable of defending themselves, that is not how a man thinks, that is how a biggoted person thinks."
You're putting words in my mouth. I respect and honor women; that's why I would never put my hands on them. Also, I never said that they were incapable of defending themselves. It's not even a question of whether a woman is capable of defending herself against a man; it's about the man's burden to justify using force (in this case - potentially lethal force) on a woman. In this case, the driver has not fulfilled his burden
lol ok wait so beating women is wrong, but using a tasser on them is not? i'll take a beating over a tasser any day of the week, you know, those things that kill a bunch of people a year? yeah I think I'd rather be hit thank you. and how was the guy supposed to hit her while she was choking him if he had his hands on the wheel? you know because of the whole "driving a moving bus" thing. you just proved how double moralist you are, no reason to argue further. you have no respect for women, you consider them weak and incapable of defending themselves, that is not how a man thinks, that is how a biggoted person thinks. Provided that the taser is necessary. Assuming that the woman is so dangerous and over-the-top that she'd even go as far as attack the cops, I reckon there could be an argument for a cop using any means to restrain her.[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="thebest31406"]
Well it's simply not true that I'm ignoring the evidence/facts. As far as the logic, no, I don't abide the logic. So far folks here have argued that his actions were justified;
1.because of the "tit for tat" notion
2. because she endangered the lives of the passengers
3. because she ran her mouth
With regard to number 1; one has to ask the question, was he justified in uppercutting her because she spat on him and for allegedly putting his hands around his throat (keeping in mind that he didn't hit her while she was doing this, but after). My answer is no. Why? He's a bigger, stronger, older man and she's a younger, smaller, weaker woman. That's the way I feel about and it's not going to change. Now you can call me a troll all you want for maintaining my stance but I think your best bet would be to stop asking the question all together because the answer will always be the same.
What about notion of uppercutting her for the sake of passengers? Well, it's clear to me that he did just about everything wrong from the very beginning; bantering back and forth with a drunk, ignorant woman "looks like somebody sliced your face up" That would provoke any nutjob. So she spits and grabs him. Now he gets up. At this point there are so many things he could have done; call the cops, radio hq, etc. Mind you that at this point, the bus has stopped so the passengers are safe. The only thing that was in danger was the drivers ego. He's pissed off so he uppercuts her to hell; that was a punitive action, not a preventive one. His intent was made clear simply from his statement "I don't care. She wanna act like a man, Imma treat her like one." Passengers are trying to break it up all the while he manages to take hold of her hair and....well...I'm not sure what he was trying to, pull it out maybe? So no, protecting the passengers wasn't a factor; the woman posed no danger to the passengers - the bus stopped.
No. 3? Well, I think you know my answer to that one.
thebest31406
"and how was the guy supposed to hit her while she was choking him if he had his hands on the wheel? you know because of the whole "driving a moving bus" thing."
Did you read my previous statement? Once the bus stopped, there was no reason to hit her - that was my point. There was no danger, so the uppercut was unnecessary and purely punitive.
"you have no respect for women, you consider them weak and incapable of defending themselves, that is not how a man thinks, that is how a biggoted person thinks."
You're putting words in my mouth. I respect and honor women; that's why I would never put my hands on them. Also, I never said that they were incapable of defending themselves. It's not even a question of whether a woman is capable of defending herself against a man; it's about the man's burden to justify using force (in this case - potentially lethal force) on a woman. In this case, the driver has not fulfilled his burden
Why does it matter if it was a man or a woman that got hit? Stop being so sexist.A good troll............. never gives up! But serious thebest31406 needs to stfu already and gtfoAre you guys STILL arguing with this guy? I gave up 3 pages ago. He's not gonna get it.
Lucky_Krystal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbhtfCAXF40
Ridiculous.
Lox_Cropek
"I felt like I was on Mortal Kombat. It just hurted, it felt like a finish him"
That made me laugh. And on a completley unrelated note, that news reporter's hair is gorgeous.
Now I'm going to continue not giving a flying fvck about this chick.
[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbhtfCAXF40
Ridiculous.
Lucky_Krystal
"I felt like I was on Mortal Kombat. It just hurted, it felt like a finish him"
That made me laugh. And on a completley unrelated note, that news reporter's hair is gorgeous.
Now I'm going to continue not giving a flying fvck about this chick.
I like the part where she cried for her lawyer when asked about how she hit the driver first. And I LOVED the fact that from now on, she will extricate herself from such a confrontation. Probably because she knows now that she can't get away with hitting a dude just because she's a "FE-MALE!"That was atrocious... Violence was not the appropriate action to take.silly_pants
On a serious note sometimes it is. Sometimes women hit people thinking a guy can't do it back. That is where this problem started evidently.
The guy technically reacted in self defence.
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