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#1 sca321
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'Housewives' Filipino joke draws ire

I thought "you've got to be kidding me" half a dozen times reading through the article. I've never seen the show and don't care about it, but it makes me mad how fast ABC caved to the pressure, how apologetic they're being, and that they're considering censoring it in the future. It sets a dangerous precedent (or rather, it continues to ingrain the pattern of self-censorship for the sake of peoples' feelings that is already taking hold).

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#2 TacticalElefant
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Liberals need apologies for everything they can't stand.
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#3 lonewolf604
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well im filipino and i got offended a little
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#5 sca321
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well im filipino and i got offended a littlelonewolf604
But do you think they should apologize or edit it out in the future? The guy in the article doesn't think an apology is enough, he thinks they should set up a scholarship for Filipinos, which is flat-out ridiculous.
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#6 The_PirateKing
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~-~Oh man, million dollar idea I just thought of that we all can get rich off of. We make up a new religion or part of a religious belief that takes part on something that is made fun of commonly. Then, when people make a joke about this thing, we take it way out of proportion and sue the person for millions. It's fool proof. But I need your help. We need numbers to make this work. (lots of numbers, convert your friends and family into it too.) Oh, and I need to think of and idea that's not overly ludicrous but still criticized. (no worshiping airline food, no one will take us seriously.)~-~
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#7 lonewolf604
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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]well im filipino and i got offended a littlesca321
But do you think they should apologize or edit it out in the future? The guy in the article doesn't think an apology is enough, he thinks they should set up a scholarship for Filipinos, which is flat-out ridiculous.

nopei dont agree with that guy, seeing as how there's always black jokes, jewish jokes, and asian stereotype jokes, ect..... no they shouldn't take it out. yes i am offended, but the guy should take into consideration that other races get "insulted" all the time
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#8 Bill900
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a nickel says this will go to court
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#9 serbsta69
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Doesnt upset me.
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#10 IrishMallard
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Bleeding Heart + Soccer Mom + non-white joke = Complaint and probably a lawsuit.
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#11 sca321
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[QUOTE="sca321"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"]well im filipino and i got offended a littlelonewolf604
But do you think they should apologize or edit it out in the future? The guy in the article doesn't think an apology is enough, he thinks they should set up a scholarship for Filipinos, which is flat-out ridiculous.

nopei dont agree with that guy, seeing as how there's always black jokes, jewish jokes, and asian stereotype jokes, ect..... no they shouldn't take it out. yes i am offended, but the guy should take into consideration that other races get "insulted" all the time

Exactly.
a nickel says this will go to courtBill900
There's no way anybody would win if they tried to sue over it.
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#13 sca321
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[QUOTE="sca321"]

[QUOTE="Bill900"]a nickel says this will go to courtBill900

There's no way anybody would win if they tried to sue over it.

doesn't mean they won't try >________>

Sadly that may be true.
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#14 Bill900
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[QUOTE="Bill900"][QUOTE="sca321"]

[QUOTE="Bill900"]a nickel says this will go to courtsca321

There's no way anybody would win if they tried to sue over it.

doesn't mean they won't try >________>

Sadly that may be true.

so very true

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Wah-wah-wah.
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#16 sca321
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Wah-wah-wah.HillyBilly
??? Is that a sound effect?
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#17 MrGeezer
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'Housewives' Filipino joke draws ire

I thought "you've got to be kidding me" half a dozen times reading through the article. I've never seen the show and don't care about it, but it makes me mad how fast ABC caved to the pressure, how apologetic they're being, and that they're considering censoring it in the future. It sets a dangerous precedent (or rather, it continues to ingrain the pattern of self-censorship for the sake of peoples' feelings that is already taking hold).

sca321

Why do you have a problem with self-censorship? If no one is making them censor themselves, the hell do you care?

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#18 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]well im filipino and i got offended a littlesca321
But do you think they should apologize or edit it out in the future? The guy in the article doesn't think an apology is enough, he thinks they should set up a scholarship for Filipinos, which is flat-out ridiculous.

If they want to set up a scholarship for filipinos, they can. If they don't want to, they don';t have to.

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#19 Cloud6900
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Snap!

:P

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#20 sca321
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Why do you have a problem with self-censorship? If no one is making them censor themselves, the hell do you care? MrGeezer
Because it's giving into the few people who got their feelings hurt just because they ***** about it, at the expense of everybody else. I don't watch the show, but if it was one I watched, I wouldn't want them to censor the DVD or the show because somebody wrote a letter or started an online petion complaining about it.
If they want to set up a scholarship for filipinos, they can. If they don't want to, they don';t have to.MrGeezer
Both true, but to suggest that the should do it because of some crappy joke on a tv show, I find ridiculous.
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#21 JustPlainLucas
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And when was the last time an Indian protested when an outsourcing joke was made on a TV show? :|

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#22 sca321
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And when was the last time an Indian protested when an outsourcing joke was made on a TV show? :|

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Who do you think wrote the script?:P
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#23 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]

And when was the last time an Indian protested when an outsourcing joke was made on a TV show? :|

sca321

Who do you think wrote the script?:P

And the funny thing is, he probably sits next to a guy taking drive-thru orders for a McDonalds.

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#24 jrhawk42
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The show's mistake was it singled out the Philippines for no apparent reason. I don't watch the show but I'm assuming that the character that said it was a female dog, and an off color coment like that fits in well w/ her character.

Yea the comment is a little off color, but you're watching a show called "desperate housewives", not "7th heaven".

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#25 L_burna
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are you kidding me?
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#26 freshgman
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Its a freakin tv show!! Its not even an important
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#27 DivineSword  Moderator
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Doesnt upset me.serbsta69

Same here, I don't get what to be upset about.

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#28 O_OdazX_X
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~-~Oh man, million dollar idea I just thought of that we all can get rich off of. We make up a new religion or part of a religious belief that takes part on something that is made fun of commonly. Then, when people make a joke about this thing, we take it way out of proportion and sue the person for millions. It's fool proof. But I need your help. We need numbers to make this work. (lots of numbers, convert your friends and family into it too.) Oh, and I need to think of and idea that's not overly ludicrous but still criticized. (no worshiping airline food, no one will take us seriously.)~-~The_PirateKing

Noel Edmunds can be our God, he get's the crap ripped out of him all the time. Although we'd be better off picking someone American... More likely they'll get the piss taken out of them then... any ideas?

I'm all for this idea btw.

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#29 O_OdazX_X
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I just thought. We Brits take the mick out of Americans on TV and I often see jokes at our expence on American shows, it really doesn't bother me at all - not one teeny bit. Funny thing is we do have bad teeth for the most part, and a lot of Americans are fat so at least some of it's based on truth.

Is that what the fillipino's are pissed at? That it was unfounded? 'Cause I don't like tea and I don't have a posh accent, we don't wordhip the royal family, or the Beckhams and hell, half of us aren't fans of the US. So many of the stereotyped jokes about us are unfounded too.. should we complain and sue?

PS. I know I totally contradicted myself but I was thinkning of new points as I went and decided to show both sides of the arguement.

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#30 comp_atkins
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please.. have you been paying attention for the last 5 years? whenever you think, "people can't possibly be offended by that" you'll find some no sense of humor rube that will be....

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~-~Oh man, million dollar idea I just thought of that we all can get rich off of. We make up a new religion or part of a religious belief that takes part on something that is made fun of commonly. Then, when people make a joke about this thing, we take it way out of proportion and sue the person for millions. It's fool proof. But I need your help. We need numbers to make this work. (lots of numbers, convert your friends and family into it too.) Oh, and I need to think of and idea that's not overly ludicrous but still criticized. (no worshiping airline food, no one will take us seriously.)~-~The_PirateKing

where do I sign up :D

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#32 deepdreamer256
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People are just too stupid and sensitive.
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#33 B05T0N
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It was a bit insensitive on the writers' part, but they dont need to make a big deal out of it. It would be appropriate to apologize, though. 
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Didn't phase me at all.
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#35 comp_atkins
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i think all shows should just put a simple disclaimer in their credits that reads

"The preceding programs was for ENTERTAINMENT purposed only. We sincerely apologize for any offense any one of the 100,000 or so watch groups may feel like feigning this week. It will happen again."

that way you get all the apologizing out of the way and we can just get on with our lives...

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#36 sthadji
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People shouldn't be offended that easily.
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#37 Patorishia
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What bothers me is that people get so bent out of shape over statements that totally take away freedom of speech. What ever happened to the saying Sticks and Stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me? Yeah, but it is more lucrative to make a big deal about it. Now the saying goes, "Words will never hurt me... unless I can get a lawsuit out of it!"
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#38 cornlockes
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there's 2 issues I have with this arguement.

1. It's stupid

2. There have been so many worse things on shows like family guy,south park,etc...

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#39 Jhonie_Fklits25
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Liberals need apologies for everything they can't stand.TacticalElefant

Yup. Republicans FTW!

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#40 whodeysay85
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wow. People take offense at everything nowadays.
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#41 1005
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Another fine example of political correctness thats got out of hand, clearly that piece of the script was mean't as a joke and not to be taken seriously. But as seems to be the current trend in the world, if you belong to a minority and anything negative is said about it then everyone goes up in arms about it.

Then again its a valid question being raised in the script aswell, a lot of people want to make sure their doctor is fully qualified or perhaps don't want a philipino doctor, did they ever think about that before they screamed racism and prejudice? i doubt it...

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#42 Large_Soda
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This blows my mind. Do Filipino people actually think there are Americans watching the show and after hearing the joke say "Yeah! Stupid, lousy, Phillipines health care!"? I doubt it, or if there are said people then they are likely beyond the limits of what any censorship could provide.

To me the character in the show was defensive about being menopausal, perhaps she is a little naïve and uneducated and fires off the remark to discredit the doctor. Or maybe the joke is even being a little self-deprecating, in showing that Americans are not typically well versed in societies outside of their own. You could delve deeper into the meaning, but you would only be wasting your time as it is a joke and has no meaning.

This is a sickening example of a sue happy, liberal society that wants comeuppance for something that barely affects them and is instantly forgotten seconds after it's heard. If this joke was a watercooler debate this morning, where people were actually mocking the Philippines health care system purely based off of a Desperate Housewives joke I'd be shocked.

None of this is relevant; it's people wanting everything for having sacrificed squat. It's as ludicrous as Extra or Entertainment Tonight giving Internet Trash Can Chris Crocker airtime.

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#43 DrummerJon
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Liberals need apologies for everything they can't stand.TacticalElefant
lawl you act like conservatives don't need revenge for everything they can't stand.
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#44 Scienceblows
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Sure,retards don't want an aplogy for South Park making fun of them,while Desperate Housewives makes a Phillipino joke and everyone's pissed!
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#45 Putzwapputzen
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yeah, some people are, but i think they just need to chill, theyre over-reacting
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#46 ArmoredAshes
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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]well im filipino and i got offended a littlesca321
But do you think they should apologize or edit it out in the future? The guy in the article doesn't think an apology is enough, he thinks they should set up a scholarship for Filipinos, which is flat-out ridiculous.

i think every white joke i hear on tv im going to start a riot about so that its not jsut minorites...its terrible how this country jsut gives everythign away for dumb reasons..

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#47 DrummerJon
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[QUOTE="sca321"][QUOTE="lonewolf604"]well im filipino and i got offended a littleArmoredAshes

But do you think they should apologize or edit it out in the future? The guy in the article doesn't think an apology is enough, he thinks they should set up a scholarship for Filipinos, which is flat-out ridiculous.

i think every white joke i hear on tv im going to start a riot about so that its not jsut minorites...its terrible how this country jsut gives everythign away for dumb reasons..

riot agaisnt who? the white people are the ones in power (not to be racist but like for cerial look at the senate)
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#48 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Why do you have a problem with self-censorship? If no one is making them censor themselves, the hell do you care? sca321
Because it's giving into the few people who got their feelings hurt just because they ***** about it, at the expense of everybody else. I don't watch the show, but if it was one I watched, I wouldn't want them to censor the DVD or the show because somebody wrote a letter or started an online petion complaining about it.

Well then, start a petition to leave it uncensored.

Bottom line is that it's not YOUR show. You don't have a right to see it uncensored any more than the complainers have a right to see it censored. Either way, they're gonna piss off somebody.

Bty the way, the other day I was at a restaurant having dinner with my friends when I thought of a really dirty joke that fit the conversation. But I didn't tell it because there were kids sitting at the table next to us. OMG, what have I done?! I self-centered myself in order to avoid offending people, and at the expense of my friends who didn't get to hear the joke! Oh no!

Just out of curiosity, where do you draw the line at which point self-censorship is acceptable? Should I go around cussing in public?