Ongoing Riots in the United Kingdom (please keep it here)

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#201 Planet_Pluto
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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

Kinda makes me wonder what the riots here in the U.S.will look like......... once we tell all the people that are getting a free ride in this country, that the free ride is over.

Wasdie

Yeah that's coming... going to suck.

China will be worse though. When people realize they have been getting used by their government and pretty much whored out to the rest of the world.

Funny you should mention that. I've often thought that one of the best things for the West, will be when the practically-slave-labor force finally rises up in China. Sadly, China's government doesn't fight with kid-gloves, so it will be NASTY.

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#202 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

Kinda makes me wonder what the riots here in the U.S.will look like......... once we tell all the people that are getting a free ride in this country, that the free ride is over.

Planet_Pluto

Yeah that's coming... going to suck.

China will be worse though. When people realize they have been getting used by their government and pretty much whored out to the rest of the world.

Funny you should mention that. I've often thought that one of the best things for the West, will be when the practically-slave-labor force finally rises up in China. Sadly, China's government doesn't fight with kid-gloves, so it will be NASTY.

when china goes off, it will make THe london riots look like a child's temper tantrum

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#203 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yeah that's coming... going to suck.

China will be worse though. When people realize they have been getting used by their government and pretty much whored out to the rest of the world.

Zaibach

Funny you should mention that. I've often thought that one of the best things for the West, will be when the practically-slave-labor force finally rises up in China. Sadly, China's government doesn't fight with kid-gloves, so it will be NASTY.

when china goes off, it will make THe london riots look like a child's temper tantrum

I have a feeling it will make WWII look calm...

Seriously, 1 billion pissed off people vs. the largest military in the world with tons of lethal weapons. Won't be pretty. The rest of the world dare not enter the fray either...

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#204 AnnoyedDragon
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I suspect things will be tough tonight...

In order to get the stated 16000+ police on the streets of London tonight, they are pulling police officers from elsewhere. This is concentrating police presence in London, while leaving everywhere else undermanned.

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#205 sukraj
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Looting is taking place...I think I need to plan a trip to London since there are a few things I want.MushroomWig

brixton riots

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#206 MissLibrarian
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I am surprised the government hasn't reacted with a more violent backlash by now.But I suppose if they did then in 20 years time it'd be remembered as yet another time when a heavy-handed conservative government smote the protesting people or something.

A bunch of people causing havoc because of anonymity and being part of a large crowd of people who're doing it too. I'm sure they're getting lulz out of it though right so who can really blame them individually? I wouldn't do that sort of thing but I can hardly expect the whole world to share my moralistic views.

Don't know how I feel about it all to be fair. Very few of them will be prosecuted in any way. We just have to wait it out I think and then the people with good intent will get down to cleaning it all up.

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#207 Planet_Pluto
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Some interesting Before/After picks from London HERE

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#208 EJ902
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I suspect things will be tough tonight...

In order to get the stated 16000+ police on the streets of London tonight, they are pulling police officers from elsewhere. This is concentrating police presence in London, while leaving everywhere else undermanned.

AnnoyedDragon
And in order to roll out water cannons they'd have to take them from the police service of northern ireland (the only british constabulary that has them). The PSNI are probably pretty good at dealing with things like this and sending some of them to london might not be too bad an idea. But removing their presence in ni is especially worrisome considering that riots like this tend to break out there between dissident factions. The problem with the army is that, available numbers aside, the british army do not seem to be well trained to handle civil disorders like this, which are not that common in the uk. Their deployment in northern ireland over the past few decades was in response to armed civillian paramilitaries who were routinely engaging in terrorist attacks against the innocent population of NI. The situation in London and other cities is nowhere near that, mass looting and destruction of buildings is one thing but the rioters are not routinely targeting and attacking innocent people, thus far there has been only one report of a death. The police were severely undermanned and overwhelmed last night, but hopefully this night they'll be ready. Though I do find the british police's reluctance to use force bothersome, water cannons and baton rounds should be available to them in my opinion.
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#209 dkrustyklown
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I have a feeling it will make WWII look calm...

Seriously, 1 billion pissed off people vs. the largest military in the world with tons of lethal weapons. Won't be pretty. The rest of the world dare not enter the fray either...

Wasdie

My worry is that the West, beholden by massive debts, will intervene to aid the Chinese state if such an insurrection were to occur. If that ever happened, it would be to our everlasting shame.

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#210 Hexagon_777
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What's up with Europeans and rioting? The U.S. has a comparable population to Western Europe with a fraction of the riots.KC_Hokie
Can a difference of 100 million be called comparable? :P
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#211 cyborg100000
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Everywhere's shut where I live, definitely moving out of England when I get the chance, the weather's crap and a lot of the people are mindless idiots.

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#212 BiancaDK
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This woman is awesome.

Brutal_Elitegs
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#213 Hexagon_777
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Everywhere's shut where I live, definitely moving out of England when I get the chance, the weather's crap and a lot of the people are mindless idiots.

cyborg100000
Where do you intend to go? Maybe you're just in the wrong part of England?
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#214 gameofthering
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[QUOTE="cyborg100000"]

Everywhere's shut where I live, definitely moving out of England when I get the chance, the weather's crap and a lot of the people are mindless idiots.

Hexagon_777

Where do you intend to go? Maybe you're just in the wrong part of England?

He should come to Scotland :P

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#215 EJ902
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="cyborg100000"]

Everywhere's shut where I live, definitely moving out of England when I get the chance, the weather's crap and a lot of the people are mindless idiots.

gameofthering

Where do you intend to go? Maybe you're just in the wrong part of England?

He should come to Scotland :P

Or wales. Everything's lovely here and a riot would probably make the area look a wee bit nicer
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#216 Morrdecai
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BBC News: "Clasford Stirling, a resident of Tottenham for 32 years, said the area looked like a battlefield..." "...then the rioting started."
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#217 MissLibrarian
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[QUOTE="Brutal_Elitegs"]

This woman is awesome.

BiancaDK
sums it up

She is awesome. I think it says something very clearly when literally every shop in a street is looted other than Waterstones :(
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#218 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="MissLibrarian"] She is awesome. I think it says something very clearly when literally every shop in a street is looted other than Waterstones :(

True, though I did notice that their stock of "Rioting for Dummies" was back-ordered.
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#219 BiancaDK
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="Brutal_Elitegs"]

This woman is awesome.

MissLibrarian

sums it up

She is awesome. I think it says something very clearly when literally every shop in a street is looted other than Waterstones :(

yes

waterstones are out of touch with their clientel

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#220 Wasdie  Moderator
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I suspect things will be tough tonight...

In order to get the stated 16000+ police on the streets of London tonight, they are pulling police officers from elsewhere. This is concentrating police presence in London, while leaving everywhere else undermanned.

AnnoyedDragon

Why are they not using their military? The police are needed back at their homes.

Is the government really afraid of looking bad? Your city is buring and you're too afraid to do anything real about it.

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#221 CBR600-RR
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Armed police in Manchester, glad I'm not heading into there tonight.

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#222 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Pirate700"] Same. Never heard this before.EliteM0nk3y

Probably because American media outlets are completely out of touch with the rest of the world.

I live in Canada. And I haven't been reading the news lately, so this is new to me.

I too do not understand why this has happened, and I live in Portugal. :|
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#223 parkurtommo
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Some interesting Before/After picks from London HERE

Planet_Pluto
haha the first set looks bad before AND after, London is so boring...
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#224 Ghost_702
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I just love how the citizens don't realize they're hurting their fellow citizens more than their government.
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#225 Planet_Pluto
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I just love how the citizens don't realize they're hurting their fellow citizens more than their government. Ghost_702
I think most of them realize, they just don't care. For many, this is all just a great excuse to go looting and steal things.

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#226 Morrdecai
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Armed police in Manchester, glad I'm not heading into there tonight.

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F***ing good.
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#227 AnnoyedDragon
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Why are they not using their military? The police are needed back at their homes.

Is the government really afraid of looking bad? Your city is buring and you're too afraid to do anything real about it.

Wasdie

People have been calling for military presence on the news, but as always; our government are ignoring public feedback.

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#228 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Why are they not using their military? The police are needed back at their homes.

Is the government really afraid of looking bad? Your city is buring and you're too afraid to do anything real about it.

AnnoyedDragon

People have been calling for military presence on the news, but as always; our government are ignoring public feedback.

Sounds worse than America...

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#229 Planet_Pluto
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Why are they not using their military? The police are needed back at their homes.

Is the government really afraid of looking bad? Your city is buring and you're too afraid to do anything real about it.

Wasdie

People have been calling for military presence on the news, but as always; our government are ignoring public feedback.

Sounds worse than America...

Eh, we have plenty of mobs/riots, but depending on what transpires and who is attacking who, like this one, it doesn't get much media attention.

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#230 PiscesChick93
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It's awful that this is going on. Spreading to Birmingham, Liverpool.... a business that was 144 years old was destroyed in the riots. Too many innocent people are having their lives destroyed by this riot. What on earth are they all going to gain from it, apart from a big mess? Nothing.

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#231 ROFLCOPTER603
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[QUOTE="Brutal_Elitegs"]

This woman is awesome.

BiancaDK

sums it up

"Get it real black people!"

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#232 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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So since I don't feel like reading through multiple pages to find it, why are they rioting to begin with?

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#233 ROFLCOPTER603
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So since I don't feel like reading through multiple pages to find it, why are they rioting to begin with?

airshocker

Some guy was shot and killed, so now they're going to remedy this by destroying people's lives and causing more violence.

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#234 Morrdecai
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So since I don't feel like reading through multiple pages to find it, why are they rioting to begin with?

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Unemployed, bored kids who want free stuff.
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#235 Wasdie  Moderator
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So since I don't feel like reading through multiple pages to find it, why are they rioting to begin with?

airshocker

Started with a shooting of some sort. Some believe it was gang violence, others think it was the cops and a cover up followed. Anyways what started as some protests kind of went out of control. Now it's just young, mostly minority, youth just rioting for no reason.

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#236 Morrdecai
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Now it's just young, mostly minority, youth just rioting for no reason.

Wasdie

nah man, they want their rice innit

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#237 Planet_Pluto
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So since I don't feel like reading through multiple pages to find it, why are they rioting to begin with?

airshocker

Bush's fault. :P

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#238 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Started with a shooting of some sort. Some believe it was gang violence, others think it was the cops and a cover up followed. Anyways what started as some protests kind of went out of control. Now it's just young, mostly minority, youth just rioting for no reason.

Wasdie

How pathetic.

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#239 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Bush's fault. :P

Planet_Pluto

Not funny because somebody is actually going to say that and be completely serious. :P

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#240 Morrdecai
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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

Bush's fault. :P

airshocker

Not funny because somebody is actually going to say that and be completely serious. :P

Bush's fault.
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#241 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

Bush's fault. :P

airshocker

Not funny because somebody is actually going to say that and be completely serious. :P

Well let's see what else he has done...

  • Invaded Iraq in 2003
  • Hurricane Katrina aftermath
  • Failing schools in the US
  • Exportation of jobs to China
  • Increase in illegal immigration
  • Widespread AIDS in Africa
  • Hurricane Katrina (the actual hurricane)
  • 9/11
  • The economic recession of 2008
  • Increasing obesity in America
  • The hanging of gays in Iran
  • Invaded Iraq in 1990
  • Russian invasion Georgia in 2008
  • Rising heat and gas prices
  • The many 2011 summer tornadoes in the middle of the country
  • The Norway terrorist attack
  • Delay of Half-Life 2 Episode 3
  • Cars 2

It's obvious everything bad that has happened in this world since 2000 is Bush's fault.

:P

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#242 Morrdecai
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

Bush's fault. :P

Wasdie

Not funny because somebody is actually going to say that and be completely serious. :P

Well let's see what else he has done...

  • Invaded Iraq in 2003
  • Hurricane Katrina aftermath
  • Failing schools in the US
  • Exportation of jobs to China
  • Increase in illegal immigration
  • Widespread AIDS in Africa
  • Hurricane Katrina (the actual hurricane)
  • 9/11
  • The economic recession of 2008
  • Increasing obesity in America
  • The hanging of gays in Iran
  • Russian invasion Georgia in 2008
  • Rising heat and gas prices
  • The many 2011 summer tornadoes in the middle of the country
  • The Norway terrorist attack
  • Delay of Half-Life 2 Episode 3
  • Cars 2

It's obvious everything bad that has happened in this world since 2000 is Bush's fault.

:P

That bastard! :cry: I wonder what was going through the minds of voters when they voted a man into the White House who would be responsible for Cars 2!
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#243 Planet_Pluto
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

Bush's fault. :P

Wasdie

Not funny because somebody is actually going to say that and be completely serious. :P

Well let's see what else he has done...

  • Long List

It's obvious everything bad that has happened in this world since 2000 is Bush's fault.

:P

You forgot to mention the lack of a World Series title for the Texas Rangers.

I'd also like to add to the "It's Bush's Fault List" the fact that whenever I have my microwave oven and both air conditioners on, and my wife turns on her hair dryer, my apartment gets a partial black-out.

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#244 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

Bush's fault. :P

Morrdecai

Not funny because somebody is actually going to say that and be completely serious. :P

Bush's fault.

I Knew it! Its always those Americans causing trouble, British Citezenz... TO ARMS!

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#245 Engrish_Major
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I Knew it! Its always those Americans causing trouble, British Citezenz... TO ARMS!

Birdy09
So you'll use your military against us, but not rioters in London? Actually - go ahead. Just target Crawford, Texas and leave us innocent blue states alone :P
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#246 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

Bush's fault. :P

Morrdecai

Not funny because somebody is actually going to say that and be completely serious. :P

Bush's fault.

*gasp*

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#247 taj7575
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Looting is taking place...I think I need to plan a trip to London since there are a few things I want.MushroomWig

Are you kidding me? Aren't you the same person who posts a thread every day about police brutality? When the police don't do anything, you get crap like what's going on in London right now.

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#248 Morrdecai
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]Looting is taking place...I think I need to plan a trip to London since there are a few things I want.taj7575

Are you kidding me? Aren't you the same person who posts a thread every day about police brutality? When the police don't do anything, you get crap like what's going on in London right now.

I think she's just joking, though I didn't find it funny.
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]Looting is taking place...I think I need to plan a trip to London since there are a few things I want.Morrdecai

Are you kidding me? Aren't you the same person who posts a thread every day about police brutality? When the police don't do anything, you get crap like what's going on in London right now.

I think she's just joking, though I didn't find it funny.

Well considering his stance on..Many different things, I'd be more surprised if he was joking.

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#250 nunovlopes
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In a way you could see the latest rioting as opportunistic kids, but I think the problem runs a little deeper - these dissafected youths may well be a product of the austerity measures and the impact on social services - youth clubs being closed, youth employment programs shut down, etc. Frustration boils over and they riot. We breed these kids into a consumerist society and take away measures in which quench their materialistic thirst, so they loot. Why not. Probably more to come, and maybe over the other side of the Atlantic too if similar cost-cutting measures to social services are put in place...

poptart

I'm sorry but that isn't a justification for burning down and destroying other people's property. I live in Portugal where we have had really hard austerity measures put in place over the last year (much more so than in the UK, like salary cuts for all public employees and other things along those lines), and you don't see people rioting like this (yet...).