News: Obama recess appointments ruled unconstitutional!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/25/appeals-court-rules-obama-recess-appointments-unconstitutional/comment-page-4/

Ruled just a few hours ago. Big setback. Also, good for both parties, I think. So in the future no President, Democrat or Republican should bypass the law.

Take that Obama.

BTW the recess appointments are already expired anyway I think, but now that they've been ruled unconstitutional any policies implemented by those people may not be able to be enforced anymore.

for some reason, i think you would have found a way to justify those actions if they were done by bush or romney

for some reason, i think you would have found a way to justify those actions if they were done by bush or romney

BossPerson

for some reason, i think you would have found a way to justify those actions if they were done by bush or romney

BossPerson

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for some reason, i think you would have found a way to justify those actions if they were done by bush or romney

DevilMightCry

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for some reason, i think you would have found a way to justify those actions if they were done by bush or romney

DevilMightCry

I don't like recess appointments though: every recess when the appointments were made I was also the last person appointed to the b-ball team.

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for some reason, i think you would have found a way to justify those actions if they were done by bush or romney

BossPerson

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]

for some reason, i think you would have found a way to justify those actions if they were done by bush or romney

BossPerson

so i guess you do become more conservate as you become older

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]you voted for kerry? Im assuming you didnt/couldnt vote at the time then. BossPerson

so i guess you do become more conservate as you become older

BossPerson

OBAMA IS A GODLESS COMMUNIST FROM KENYA!!!!111 BIG GOVERNMENT IS SOCALISM NEW WORLD ORDER!!11

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so i guess you do become more conservate as you become older

DevilMightCry

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so i guess you do become more conservate as you become older

DevilMightCry

while i agree with the ruling.. it'd be nice if congress got their heads out of their a--es and at least had the hearing to get people confirmed... there should be another check on congress.. something like if congress doesn't act to rule on the confirmation of appointments in X number of days/weeks, the president can appoint whomever they see fit... keep the ball rolling. comp_atkins

Good for you for seeing through the agitprop. I guess you also realised now that Obama is carrying out the same foreign policy that the media hated so much under Bush? And where is their outrage now? Right.MrPraline

Maybe you should go back to drone strike jokes?

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Good for you for seeing through the agitprop. I guess you also realised now that Obama is carrying out the same foreign policy that the media hated so much under Bush? And where is their outrage now? Right.Aljosa23

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so i guess you do become more conservate as you become older

MrPraline

Maybe you should go back to drone strike jokes?Aljosa23

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Good for you for seeing through the agitprop. I guess you also realised now that Obama is carrying out the same foreign policy that the media hated so much under Bush? And where is their outrage now? Right.MrPraline

huh. i must have missed the part where obama ordered an extensive ground war, occupation, and nation building effort on two separate occasionsAbbeten

[QUOTE="Abbeten"]huh. i must have missed the part where obama ordered an extensive ground war, occupation, and nation building effort on two separate occasionswhipassmt

This is a good thing. This was a bad practice and you'd have to be blindly supporting Obama not to think so.

[QUOTE="Abbeten"]huh. i must have missed the part where obama ordered an extensive ground war, occupation, and nation building effort on two separate occasionswhipassmt

Obama doesn't seem to be taking foreign policy differently than Bush.

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[QUOTE="Abbeten"]huh. i must have missed the part where obama ordered an extensive ground war, occupation, and nation building effort on two separate occasionsMrPraline

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] He ordered a surge in Afghanistan. He ordered U.S. planes to participate in Libya. He kept Gates as Secretary of Defense.DevilMightCry

I was like "WTF?" when I read the title, and then I entered the thread and saw appeals court, then I lol'd. This won't hold up.

OBAMA IS A GODLESS COMMUNIST FROM KENYA!!!!111 BIG GOVERNMENT IS SOCALISM NEW WORLD ORDER!!11

osirisx3

r/pyongyang is that way ---->

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Ohh, please. Not another "he's just a puppet controlled by secret society/nwo/military industrial complex". I know you're just quoting it, but that's what I think of it. DevilMightCry

I was like "WTF?" when I read the title, and then I entered the thread and saw appeals court, then I lol'd. This won't hold up.

theone86

I thought only the Supreme Court could rule presidential actions unconstitutional....

it's gon be appealed no doubt in any event, i would be fine with this being upheld for ANY president maybe that's just because I like my government to, you know, functionAbbeten

If the government was functional then the Congress wouldn't have threatened to hold up every single one of President Obama's appointments and he never would have had to resort to recess appointments in the first place. It's such an easy, procedural thing, but even something like that gets held up and kicked down the line until by the time they actually resolve the issue the appointments have expired. It's essentially a vote for these people not being appointed at all, which fits in great with the Republican agenda because they don't want the entities they were appointed to to function in the first place.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]That's far from a fair interpretation of what was quoted. Abbeten

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I was like "WTF?" when I read the title, and then I entered the thread and saw appeals court, then I lol'd. This won't hold up.

Lotus-Edge

I thought only the Supreme Court could rule presidential actions unconstitutional....

Not really, but if there's a lot of ambiguity and contention then the SC has the final say.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Ohh, please. Not another "he's just a puppet controlled by secret society/nwo/military industrial complex". I know you're just quoting it, but that's what I think of it. DevilMightCry

In 2009 when the white house was debating what course of action to take in Afghanistan, Stanley McChrystalleaked his classified recommendation to the press, putting enormous pressure on Obama to follow through with McChrystal's plan in wholesale. There is a cult of personality surrounding the career military figures in this country (see: Colin Powell, David Patreaus) - what they say is revered, and that diminishes the clout of the presidency. And on top of that they and their friends stay in DC for quite some time. Look at everyone in Obama's cabinet and tell me how many of them didn't work for Bill Clinton. Look at everyone in Bush's cabinet and tell me how many of them didn't work for his father. The government is nothing if not a huge bureaucracy - changing the guy at the top can only change so much.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]That's far from a fair interpretation of what was quoted. -Sun_Tzu-

In 2009 when the white house was debating what course of action to take in Afghanistan, Stanley McChrystalleaked his classified recommendation to the press, putting enormous pressure on Obama to follow through with McChrystal's plan in wholesale. There is a cult of personality surrounding the career military figures in this country (see: Colin Powell, David Patreaus) - what they say is revered, and that diminishes the clout of the presidency. And on top of that they and their friends stay in DC for quite some time. Look at everyone in Obama's cabinet and tell me how many of them didn't work for Bill Clinton. Look at everyone in Bush's cabinet and tell me how many of them didn't work for his father. The government is nothing if not a huge bureaucracy - changing the guy at the top can only change so much.

Good.