NBC apologys to Michelle, but why did they insult her in 1st place?

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#1 Senor-Dweedle
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/24/nbc-apologizes-to-bachmann-for-fallon-song-choice/

I know not everyone will agree with Michelles policys, but public humiliation is totally over the top.

Who else thinks TV networks need to treat politcal representatives more respectfully?

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#2 67gt500
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Politicians should be considered 'fair game' no matter what...
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#4 Senor-Dweedle
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Why don't you just comment on the stories on foxnews instead of posting them all here?MichBelle
?? People post news on here all the time for discussion
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#5 GreySeal9
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NBC didn't insult her. It was something The Roots decided to do.

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#6 wolverine4262
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Given that she was a guest on the show, it was absolutely rude. The Roots (Im assuming they are to blame) really messed up here. You can disagree with her political ideas, but this was just childish. It also just gave her more talking points. Now she has an example of media bias, no matter how off it is...
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#7 Darthmatt
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I don't think the rash descision of a band leader on a thrid string late night show constitutes the will of an entire network.

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#8 mrmusicman247
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Oh look. Someone insulted Michelle. That has NEVER happened before.
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#9 Senor-Dweedle
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I don't think the rash descision of a band leader on a thrid string late night show constitutes the will of an entire network.

Darthmatt
yes it does, they let him play it
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Who else thinks TV networks need to treat politcal representatives more respectfully?Senor-Dweedle
1. Why are you posting this when there is already a thread about it? 2. Stop flooding the board - give other threads a chance.
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#11 linkin_guy109
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i feel like the roots should get a trophy for doing what they did, since when was it out of line to bash a politician to their face? apparently its only good to bash a politician when they arent around to see it

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#12 Communist_Soul
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They can do what they want. No you should be able to insult anyone you please.

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#13 CodingGenius
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They probably insulted her because she is a misinformed hypocrite. At least that's why I insult her. :)
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Given that she was a guest on the show, it was absolutely rude. The Roots (Im assuming they are to blame) really messed up here. You can disagree with her political ideas, but this was just childish. It also just gave her more talking points. Now she has an example of media bias, no matter how off it is...wolverine4262

Fox News will even that out in no time

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#15 wolverine4262
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Fox News will even that out in no time

chaoscougar1

To be fair, all this media biasness the right spouts is pure bull every time. Even still, there are plenty of people that will look at this instance and agree...

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It's ok to belittle someone's status as a woman as long as they are a republican. Bachman is an idiot, but referring to her as what they did, was a little crass.

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

Fox News will even that out in no time

wolverine4262

To be fair, all this media biasness the right spouts is pure bull every time. Even still, there are plenty of people that will look at this instance and agree...

I pray for those people
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It's ok to belittle someone's status as a woman as long as they are a republican. Bachman is an idiot, but referring to her as what they did, was a little crass.

sonicare

Well she is a Lyin' Ass B----.

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#19 Charazani
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Don't think you can really say that the band's decision was reflective of the networks thoughts. A spur of the moment thing.
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It's ok to belittle someone's status as a woman as long as they are a republican. Bachman is an idiot, but referring to her as what they did, was a little crass.

sonicare

How on Earth were they belittling her status as a woman?

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I think people running for office need to toughen up if they expect to run a country. If someone cries boo-hoo over a song, no way in hell they'll be able to handle the stress associated with the presidency.
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#22 Banjo_Kongfooie
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/24/nbc-apologizes-to-bachmann-for-fallon-song-choice/

I know not everyone will agree with Michelles policys, but public humiliation is totally over the top.

Who else thinks TV networks need to treat politcal representatives more respectfully?

Senor-Dweedle

Thanks for posting this


I do not think Fallon should be fired but that was wrong in my opinion. To be fair it might not have been him and he seemed to be respectful of Bachmann. Honestly the song is only disrespectful when you look at the title of the song or maybe the lyrics after the intro.

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#23 worlock77
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I think people running for office need to toughen up if they expect to run a country. If someone cries boo-hoo over a song, no way in hell they'll be able to handle the stress associated with the presidency. Maniacc1

This too.

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#24 cybrcatter
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'Lyin' Ass B----', lulz.

On a side note, Fallon is painfully unfunny on that show. His little stand-up thing at the beginning makes me cringe.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

It's ok to belittle someone's status as a woman as long as they are a republican. Bachman is an idiot, but referring to her as what they did, was a little crass.

worlock77

How on Earth were they belittling her status as a woman?

Using a deregatory term about a woman. NBC is apologizing so they probably did cross the line. Had they just called her an idiot or something along those lines, that probably would have been better. But in all honesty, why invite someone on your show if you're just going to ridicule them? They dont do that to most other candidates. I dont like Bachman, but like every candidate, she deserves some respect. If they made some racial comment about Obama or Cain, I think more people would be outraged. Well, if they made a comment about Obama.

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#26 LJS9502_basic
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Does that show actually have viewers?
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

It's ok to belittle someone's status as a woman as long as they are a republican. Bachman is an idiot, but referring to her as what they did, was a little crass.

worlock77

How on Earth were they belittling her status as a woman?

The term **** is usually used a derogatory term against women.

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#28 LJS9502_basic
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Does that show actually have viewers?LJS9502_basic
On a side note, Fallon is painfully unfunny on that show. His little stand-up thing at the beginning makes me cringe.cybrcatter
I stand corrected....
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

Fox News will even that out in no time

wolverine4262

To be fair, all this media biasness the right spouts is pure bull every time. Even still, there are plenty of people that will look at this instance and agree...

Don't be so sure. It has been shown time and again that the media does have a bias, more often than not, to the left. Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist explains it all. This of course does not include MSNBC which is the polar opposite of Fox News.

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Don't be so sure. It has been shown time and again that the media does have a bias, more often than not, to the left. Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist explains it all. This of course does not include MSNBC which is the polar opposite of Fox News.

WhiteKnight77

This is an honest question. Im a little confused. Why would mentioning a particular political group or organization more than another display a bia? maybe there is just more news to report.

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#31 soulless4now
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I wonder how they were reprimanded...

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#32 SPYDER0416
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They probably insulted her because she is a misinformed hypocrite. At least that's why I insult her. :)CodingGenius

Hey, when I said that about Bachmann I got moderated. I'm so mad now, because I just want to say something mean about her... but I don't know what is acceptable.

Well, she is... crazy. Is that good enough?

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#33 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

It's ok to belittle someone's status as a woman as long as they are a republican. Bachman is an idiot, but referring to her as what they did, was a little crass.

sonicare

How on Earth were they belittling her status as a woman?

Using a deregatory term about a woman. NBC is apologizing so they probably did cross the line. Had they just called her an idiot or something along those lines, that probably would have been better. But in all honesty, why invite someone on your show if you're just going to ridicule them? They dont do that to most other candidates. I dont like Bachman, but like every candidate, she deserves some respect. If they made some racial comment about Obama or Cain, I think more people would be outraged. Well, if they made a comment about Obama.

So if the song's title had been 'Lyin' Ass Dick' and the guest been a male would that be "belittleing his status as a man"? Somehow I doubt you'd argue that. And they didn't actually call her anything. They played an excerpt of a old song. Was it rude? Perhaps. Was it the afront to women's rights you seem to want to paint it as? Hardly.

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Women b###### h### same thing hahahaha

[spoiler] just kidding [/spoiler]

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So if the song's title had been 'Lyin' Ass Dick' and the guest been a male would that be "belittleing his status as a man"? Somehow I doubt you'd argue that. And they didn't actually call her anything. They played an excerpt of a old song. Was it rude? Perhaps. Was it the afront to women's rights you seem to want to paint it as? Hardly.

worlock77

Why are you caring... That is like saying cracker is the equivelent of the dreaded n-word...

Come back to me when wasp males are oppressed for years then complain how women are trying to prevent regression in rights given to them.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

So if the song's title had been 'Lyin' Ass Dick' and the guest been a male would that be "belittleing his status as a man"? Somehow I doubt you'd argue that. And they didn't actually call her anything. They played an excerpt of a old song. Was it rude? Perhaps. Was it the afront to women's rights you seem to want to paint it as? Hardly.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Why are you caring... That is like saying cracker is the equivelent of the dreaded n-word...

Come back to me when wasp males are oppressed for years then complain how women are trying to prevent regression in rights given to them.

Maybe it's because I'm tired, but I read this like 5 times and still couldn't quite make sense of it.

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Until politicians stop lying to us, I'm not sure I care how they are treated by the media. Sounds cynical, but the government in my province, well the Premier, totally did the opposite of what he said he was going to do. They ******* lie all the time to get in to office, than it's open season for whatever the eff they want to do. You can't lie in court, you shouldn't be able to lie as a politician.
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dangit she knew better than to stray from FoxNews cameras she asked for it
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Until politicians stop lying to us, I'm not sure I care how they are treated by the media. Sounds cynical, but the government in my province, well the Premier, totally did the opposite of what he said he was going to do. They ******* lie all the time to get in to office, than it's open season for whatever the eff they want to do. You can't lie in court, you shouldn't be able to lie as a politician.metallica_fan42
Then the media should pin them down with questions....not insults. Wasn't a class move at all....
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]Don't be so sure. It has been shown time and again that the media does have a bias, more often than not, to the left. Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist explains it all. This of course does not include MSNBC which is the polar opposite of Fox News.

wolverine4262

This is an honest question. Im a little confused. Why would mentioning a particular political group or organization more than another display a bia? maybe there is just more news to report.

Notice I picked out the 2 media outlets that are the extreme versions of each other. Both tend tonitpick everything the opposition does or wants to do. Also, notice that newspapers especially, will endorse political candidates and typically they are liberal candidates. As far as mentioning a specific group, citing said groups almost exclusively also shows bias.

The worst thing about this, the press was supposed to be the watchdog of the government, hence the 1st Amendment right of freedom of the press. Instead, the press, while still trying to be the watchdog, is pushing an agenda and with the exception of Fox News, they all lean left. I can see that with some of the papers I have read like USA Today, The Wall Street Journal (I get to read these at hotels) and The Atlanta Journal Constition.

It was also visible during the last two Presidential elections. The press would not ask Obama what he meant by change, yet they went after GWB for his military record and that even led to the resignation of a long time anchor from a nightly news program when he failed to check out the sources of a story he ran.

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#41 WhiteKnight77
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Then the media should pin them down with questions...LJS9502_basic

Exactly, all politicians should be questioned as to what they want and not get poo pooed just due to some catch phrase or sound bite.