Is the Internet Evolving or Devolving?

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#1 jalexbrown
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What do you think? Is the internet growing into a more reliable and ready source of information, or is it just going to turn into a cesspool of porn and blogged opinions with no value or merit?

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#2 AHUGECAT
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It's de-evolving... somewhat. Apple wants to make sure that happens though because they didn't include flash on the iPad, so you can't even fully see 90% of the websites on the web.

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#3 ProjectTrinity
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Evolving! Just a glance at all the users in OT, a gaming website, should speak for itself. =D
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#4 W--K--A
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It's de-evolving... somewhat. Apple wants to make sure that happens though because they didn't include flash on the iPad, so you can't even fully see 90% of the websites on the web.

AHUGECAT

Apple's decision to do that has no effect on the internet's evolving.

Obviously it is evolving nearly every day - there is more and more information and if you are intelligent to decipher what is credible you always will be.

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#5 Alter_Echo
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The internet is evolving and as a result, the human race is devolving.

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#6 Mochyc
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It's de-evolving... somewhat. Apple wants to make sure that happens though because they didn't include flash on the iPad, so you can't even fully see 90% of the websites on the web.

AHUGECAT
Although the iPad isn't replacing PCs. I don't see how it can have any effect on a larger scale. I think the internet is just the same, you'll find bullcrap somewhere, and something reliable somewhere else. You should just be able to find the right sources.
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#8 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

It's de-evolving... somewhat. Apple wants to make sure that happens though because they didn't include flash on the iPad, so you can't even fully see 90% of the websites on the web.

W--K--A

Apple's decision to do that has no effect on the internet's evolving.

Obviously it is evolving nearly every day - there is more and more information and if you are intelligent to decipher what is credible you always will be.

It has a lot of effect, the iPhone and iPad are going to have a lot of effect on the internet, and how it's used.

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#9 Mochyc
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[QUOTE="W--K--A"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

It's de-evolving... somewhat. Apple wants to make sure that happens though because they didn't include flash on the iPad, so you can't even fully see 90% of the websites on the web.

AHUGECAT

Apple's decision to do that has no effect on the internet's evolving.

Obviously it is evolving nearly every day - there is more and more information and if you are intelligent to decipher what is credible you always will be.

It has a lot of effect, the iPhone and iPad are going to have a lot of effect on the internet, and how it's used.

How?
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#10 Daavpuke
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both, but that's more to society growing ever more tolerant and thus extreme towards current generations standards. We all fall behind at some point, but the world won't stop turning for it. Once you're out of the loop, you're out. time to get the canes out and start jiggling.
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#11 jalexbrown
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The internet is evolving and as a result, the human race is devolving.

Alter_Echo
This could stand to be the best response this thread gets. Anyways, I feel like more and more of the valid information on the internet is getting drowned out by wave upon wave of blogs and editorial articles from people that want to give their two cents and present it as fact. Admittedly this is sort of a subjective issue, because what one person finds to be valuable information, another may find to be worthless.
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#12 SgtKevali
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Evolving. I can't really say anything else.

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#13 GazaAli
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Its surely evolving.
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#14 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="Alter_Echo"]

The internet is evolving and as a result, the human race is devolving.

jalexbrown
This could stand to be the best response this thread gets.

I second this.
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#15 compost-mentis
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Evolution is all that can ever happen. Devolution is impossible.

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#16 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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Evolution is all that can ever happen. Devolution is impossible.

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Oh semantics, how everyone loves them!
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#17 Barbariser
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The internet can only devolve if it returns to its previous state in an order which is the exact reverse of its current progress. This is obviously not happening.

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#18 jalexbrown
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The internet can only devolve if it returns to its previous state in an order which is the exact reverse of its current progress. This is obviously not happening.

Barbariser
Devolving: 3 : to degenerate through a gradual change or evolution Devolving doesn't mean returning to a previous state; it means degenerating.
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#19 htekemerald
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Devolving. Most new american internet legislation is violates the idea of net-neutrality. The best part is this legistaltion is so already rich companies can earn even more

money.

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#20 compost-mentis
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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Evolution is all that can ever happen. Devolution is impossible.

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Oh semantics, how everyone loves them!

New technologies offer all sorts of possibilities, including apparent "devolution's", but all the while Humanity is learning and adapting, and developing, despite immediate and seemingly apparent indications to the contrary...

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#21 W--K--A
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[QUOTE="W--K--A"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

It's de-evolving... somewhat. Apple wants to make sure that happens though because they didn't include flash on the iPad, so you can't even fully see 90% of the websites on the web.

AHUGECAT

Apple's decision to do that has no effect on the internet's evolving.

Obviously it is evolving nearly every day - there is more and more information and if you are intelligent to decipher what is credible you always will be.

It has a lot of effect, the iPhone and iPad are going to have a lot of effect on the internet, and how it's used.

The iPhone and iPad both use Safari which has been on Macs for years. Neither of these devices not having Flash affects the content being put onto the Internet anyway.

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#22 Barbariser
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[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

The internet can only devolve if it returns to its previous state in an order which is the exact reverse of its current progress. This is obviously not happening.

jalexbrown

Devolving: 3 : to degenerate through a gradual change or evolution Devolving doesn't mean returning to a previous state; it means degenerating.

How does one quantify "degeneration" of the internet? We have multiple conflicting opinions on the matter; some believe that increasing regulation and the expansion of the available quantity of information qualifies as "progress" - others believe the precise opposite.

The only definition of deevolution which has objectively defined parameters is the one which posits it as "backwards evolution" .i.e reversed progression, which is why I chose that definition. Of course, there's the problem that deevolution as defined in that manner occurs extremely rarely in just about any situation. That said, you have your version of it and I have mine - and I have no problem with that, since either way my answer would be "it's not devolving".

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#23 X360PS3AMD05
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Devolving with every immigration thread.
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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Barbariser"]

The internet can only devolve if it returns to its previous state in an order which is the exact reverse of its current progress. This is obviously not happening.

Barbariser

Devolving: 3 : to degenerate through a gradual change or evolution Devolving doesn't mean returning to a previous state; it means degenerating.

How does one quantify "degeneration" of the internet? We have multiple conflicting opinions on the matter; some believe that increasing regulation and the expansion of the available quantity of information qualifies as "progress" - others believe the precise opposite.

The only definition of deevolution which has objectively defined parameters is the one which posits it as "backwards evolution" .i.e reversed progression, which is why I chose that definition. Of course, there's the problem that deevolution as defined in that manner occurs extremely rarely in just about any situation. That said, you have your version of it and I have mine - and I have no problem with that, since either way my answer would be "it's not devolving".

That's why I suggested that the issue was subjective is because someone might feel it's degenerating while another might feel it's growing into a more valuable tool. If we all agreed on the matter, the thread would be pointless.
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#25 compost-mentis
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Devolving with every immigration thread.X360PS3AMD05

Our World is one "Big" Microcosm. Only insular and ignorant politics turns it into a Nanocosm. No one owns this Planet. Only Capitalist Pricks think they do. Nationalism does not exist in this day and age, only ignorance and bigotry. There are no boundaries anymore.

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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Devolving with every immigration thread.compost-mentis

Our World is one "Big" Microcosm. Only insular and ignorant politics turns it into a Nanocosm. No one owns this Planet. Only Capitalist Pricks think they do.

Pseudo-communist?
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Devolving with every immigration thread.compost-mentis

Our World is one "Big" Microcosm. Only insular and ignorant politics turns it into a Nanocosm. No one owns this Planet. Only Capitalist Pricks think they do. Nationalism does not exist in this day and age, only ignorance and bigotry.

Are you suggesting that there shouldn't be nations? Because as long as there are different nations, what you describe is inevitable.
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#28 compost-mentis
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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Devolving with every immigration thread.FrostyPhantasm

Our World is one "Big" Microcosm. Only insular and ignorant politics turns it into a Nanocosm. No one owns this Planet. Only Capitalist Pricks think they do.

Pseudo-communist?

I am a Humanist. Do you hate people? Are we not one and the same?

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Our World is one "Big" Microcosm. Only insular and ignorant politics turns it into a Nanocosm. No one owns this Planet. Only Capitalist Pricks think they do.

compost-mentis

Pseudo-communist?

I am a Humanist. Do you hate people? Are we not one and the same?

Nah can't say i hate people, do i think everyone is the same though? No.
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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] Pseudo-communist? FrostyPhantasm

I am a Humanist. Do you hate people? Are we not one and the same?

Nah can't say i hate people, do i think everyone is the same though? No.

Why not?

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Our World is one "Big" Microcosm. Only insular and ignorant politics turns it into a Nanocosm. No one owns this Planet. Only Capitalist Pricks think they do.

compost-mentis

Pseudo-communist?

I am a Humanist. Do you hate people? Are we not one and the same?

Culturally we're not all equal. There are still people in parts of the world performing ritual sacrifices; you can't suggest that those people are culturally equal to more advanced cultures. "Are we not one in the same?" No, we're not one in the same. Rather you want to blame it on geographical location or allocation of resources or whatever, the fact of the matter is that some societies are behind others.
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

I am a Humanist. Do you hate people? Are we not one and the same?

compost-mentis

Nah can't say i hate people, do i think everyone is the same though? No.

Why not?

People are different ethically and morally. The guy in that obscure rainforest cannibalizing on his bud is not on the same level as the humanitarian giving out food to the homeless. Do i value my friends and family and myself over a guy in Japan. Hell yes.
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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] Pseudo-communist? jalexbrown

I am a Humanist. Do you hate people? Are we not one and the same?

Culturally we're not all equal. There are still people in parts of the world performing ritual sacrifices; you can't suggest that those people are culturally equal to more advanced cultures. "Are we not one in the same?" No, we're not one in the same. Rather you want to blame it on geographical location or allocation of resources or whatever, the fact of the matter is that some societies are behind others.

The concept of society is socially manufactured. It is called Social Constructivism. Human Beings are still Human Beings. Culture means nothing. People mean everything.

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

I am a Humanist. Do you hate people? Are we not one and the same?

compost-mentis

Culturally we're not all equal. There are still people in parts of the world performing ritual sacrifices; you can't suggest that those people are culturally equal to more advanced cultures. "Are we not one in the same?" No, we're not one in the same. Rather you want to blame it on geographical location or allocation of resources or whatever, the fact of the matter is that some societies are behind others.

The concept of society is socially manufactured. It is called Social Constructivism. Human Beings are still Human Beings. Culture means nothing. People mean everything.

To some, but not to all. I could care less what happens to you to be honest, if you were to stop coming to this website, or if you were to become super rich, it wouldnt affect me in anyway.
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#36 compost-mentis
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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] Culturally we're not all equal. There are still people in parts of the world performing ritual sacrifices; you can't suggest that those people are culturally equal to more advanced cultures. "Are we not one in the same?" No, we're not one in the same. Rather you want to blame it on geographical location or allocation of resources or whatever, the fact of the matter is that some societies are behind others.FrostyPhantasm

The concept of society is socially manufactured. It is called Social Constructivism. Human Beings are still Human Beings. Culture means nothing. People mean everything.

To some, but not to all. I could care less what happens to you to be honest, if you were to stop coming to this website, or if you were to become super rich, it wouldnt affect me in anyway.

Me becoming "super-rich" should not affect you, but my wellbeing should be of a concern to, as your wellbeing is a concern to me. Are you not a Human Being with a vague notion of empathy?

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#37 jalexbrown
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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

I am a Humanist. Do you hate people? Are we not one and the same?

compost-mentis

Culturally we're not all equal. There are still people in parts of the world performing ritual sacrifices; you can't suggest that those people are culturally equal to more advanced cultures. "Are we not one in the same?" No, we're not one in the same. Rather you want to blame it on geographical location or allocation of resources or whatever, the fact of the matter is that some societies are behind others.

The concept of society is socially manufactured. It is called Social Constructivism. Human Beings are still Human Beings. Culture means nothing. People mean everything.

This is just a school of thought...you cannot and should not try to pass it off as a fact. Culture is very important to some people, and they would find you absurd for even suggesting that it "means nothing".
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

The concept of society is socially manufactured. It is called Social Constructivism. Human Beings are still Human Beings. Culture means nothing. People mean everything.

compost-mentis

To some, but not to all. I could care less what happens to you to be honest, if you were to stop coming to this website, or if you were to become super rich, it wouldnt affect me in anyway.

Me becoming "super-rich" should not affect you, but my wellbeing should be of a concern to, as your wellbeing is a concern to me. Are you not a Human Being with a vague notion of empathy?

Not to be offense, but your well-being isn't high on my priority list, and I see no reason why my well-being should be high on yours. You're acting as though we should look out for the best interests of people we don't know. Why? If I'd been alive in the late 30s and early 40s, I sure as hell wouldn't have been the least bit concerned about the well-being of Adolf Hitler just as an example.
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

The concept of society is socially manufactured. It is called Social Constructivism. Human Beings are still Human Beings. Culture means nothing. People mean everything.

compost-mentis

To some, but not to all. I could care less what happens to you to be honest, if you were to stop coming to this website, or if you were to become super rich, it wouldnt affect me in anyway.

Me becoming "super-rich" should not affect you, but my wellbeing should be of a concern to, as your wellbeing is a concern to me. Are you not a Human Being with a vague notion of empathy?

Empathy to an extent for the anonymous. Right now you simply exist as a forum name and avatar, add a name, a news caption, and a picture, you're now a human, a human that i do not know and will never know, you are still anonymous to my mind. People die every single day, hundreds, thousands, sometimes even millions in a huge catastrophe, am i really shaken up about those over-seas? Not a single bit, just numbers in my mind. If you were a family member, a friend, or a friend of a friend of a friend or even a member of my community, you cease to be anonymous and your death affects me.
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#40 mouthforbathory
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The internet will always be evolving (not necessarily for the better) as long as net neutrality is maintained. New memes, websites, etc will always come of age, and pass into history. With new forms of interaction, we could see it change even more.

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Still moving forward but I think it's also paving the way for more internationally enforced laws. I'd hate to see such an open medium turn into a one-way tool like TV or radio.
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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] To some, but not to all. I could care less what happens to you to be honest, if you were to stop coming to this website, or if you were to become super rich, it wouldnt affect me in anyway. FrostyPhantasm

Me becoming "super-rich" should not affect you, but my wellbeing should be of a concern to, as your wellbeing is a concern to me. Are you not a Human Being with a vague notion of empathy?

Empathy to an extent for the anonymous. Right now you simply exist as a forum name and avatar, add a name, a news caption, and a picture, you're now a human, a human that i do not know and will never know, you are still anonymous to my mind. People die every single day, hundreds, thousands, sometimes even millions in a huge catastrophe, am i really shaken up about those over-seas? Not a single bit, just numbers in my mind. If you were a family member, a friend, or a friend of a friend of a friend or even a member of my community, you cease to be anonymous and your death affects me.

All I detect is apathy. I am a real person, as are you. We are all in the same boat. Sentimentality only goes so far. You know that you are talking to a real person. Why do you not feel that you should not give me the same respect as you would your own brother? We are both Human beings.

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

Me becoming "super-rich" should not affect you, but my wellbeing should be of a concern to, as your wellbeing is a concern to me. Are you not a Human Being with a vague notion of empathy?

compost-mentis

Empathy to an extent for the anonymous. Right now you simply exist as a forum name and avatar, add a name, a news caption, and a picture, you're now a human, a human that i do not know and will never know, you are still anonymous to my mind. People die every single day, hundreds, thousands, sometimes even millions in a huge catastrophe, am i really shaken up about those over-seas? Not a single bit, just numbers in my mind. If you were a family member, a friend, or a friend of a friend of a friend or even a member of my community, you cease to be anonymous and your death affects me.

All I detect is apathy. I am a real person, as are you. We are all in the same boat. Sentimentality only goes so far. You know that you are talking to a real person. Why do you not feel that you should give me the same respect as you would your own brother? We are both Human beings.

Except you are not my brother, i have no ties to you, you are not in the same boat as me, I don't know anything about your life, and you mine. If my brother dies, i have memories, experiences, scars that remind me of him and all the opportunities i would have missed with his passing, you die? I don't read or hear about it, i cease to acknowledge you even existed, and no chances are gained or lost, thereby your death has no bearing on my life.
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#44 Rikusaki
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It seems like it's at a stand still right now.

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] To some, but not to all. I could care less what happens to you to be honest, if you were to stop coming to this website, or if you were to become super rich, it wouldnt affect me in anyway. FrostyPhantasm

Me becoming "super-rich" should not affect you, but my wellbeing should be of a concern to, as your wellbeing is a concern to me. Are you not a Human Being with a vague notion of empathy?

Empathy to an extent for the anonymous. Right now you simply exist as a forum name and avatar, add a name, a news caption, and a picture, you're now a human, a human that i do not know and will never know, you are still anonymous to my mind. People die every single day, hundreds, thousands, sometimes even millions in a huge catastrophe, am i really shaken up about those over-seas? Not a single bit, just numbers in my mind. If you were a family member, a friend, or a friend of a friend of a friend or even a member of my community, you cease to be anonymous and your death affects me.

"The death of one is a tragedy; the death of millions is just a statistic."
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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] Empathy to an extent for the anonymous. Right now you simply exist as a forum name and avatar, add a name, a news caption, and a picture, you're now a human, a human that i do not know and will never know, you are still anonymous to my mind. People die every single day, hundreds, thousands, sometimes even millions in a huge catastrophe, am i really shaken up about those over-seas? Not a single bit, just numbers in my mind. If you were a family member, a friend, or a friend of a friend of a friend or even a member of my community, you cease to be anonymous and your death affects me.FrostyPhantasm

All I detect is apathy. I am a real person, as are you. We are all in the same boat. Sentimentality only goes so far. You know that you are talking to a real person. Why do you not feel that you should give me the same respect as you would your own brother? We are both Human beings.

Except you are not my brother, i have no ties to you, you are not in the same boat as me, I don't know anything about your life, and you mine. If my brother dies, i have memories, experiences, scars that remind me of him and all the opportunities i would have missed with his passing, you die? I don't read or hear about it, i cease to acknowledge you even existed, and no chances are gained or lost, thereby your death has no bearing on my life.

All empathy is lost. The distance between Human Beings. This is how wars can be fought without a care in the World. A lack of connection and understanding, because it is denied. Do you think this is right?

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

All I detect is apathy. I am a real person, as are you. We are all in the same boat. Sentimentality only goes so far. You know that you are talking to a real person. Why do you not feel that you should give me the same respect as you would your own brother? We are both Human beings.

compost-mentis

Except you are not my brother, i have no ties to you, you are not in the same boat as me, I don't know anything about your life, and you mine. If my brother dies, i have memories, experiences, scars that remind me of him and all the opportunities i would have missed with his passing, you die? I don't read or hear about it, i cease to acknowledge you even existed, and no chances are gained or lost, thereby your death has no bearing on my life.

All empathy is lost. The distance between Human Beings. This is how wars can be fought without a care in the World. A lack of connection and understanding, because it is denied. Do you think this is right?

Wars are hardly fought without a care in the world, they're a last ditch effort that neither side encourages, people come home in coffins and many mourn, it is also a necessity. To not care about a person in Russia getting run over my a car, and shooting a man across the street in Iraq is not the same at all.
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

All I detect is apathy. I am a real person, as are you. We are all in the same boat. Sentimentality only goes so far. You know that you are talking to a real person. Why do you not feel that you should give me the same respect as you would your own brother? We are both Human beings.

compost-mentis

Except you are not my brother, i have no ties to you, you are not in the same boat as me, I don't know anything about your life, and you mine. If my brother dies, i have memories, experiences, scars that remind me of him and all the opportunities i would have missed with his passing, you die? I don't read or hear about it, i cease to acknowledge you even existed, and no chances are gained or lost, thereby your death has no bearing on my life.

All empathy is lost. The distance between Human Beings. This is how wars can be fought without a care in the World. A lack of connection and understanding, because it is denied. Do you think this is right?

I don't know about FrostyPhantasm, but I'll come right out and say it: I'm apathetic. Plain and simple. If don't know you or if I don't care about you, I don't even acknowledge your existence. Do I see anything wrong with it? Not a bit. I've got a small handful of people in my life, and I can get stressed enough worrying about them; I certainly can't afford to worry about some billions of people.
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[QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] Except you are not my brother, i have no ties to you, you are not in the same boat as me, I don't know anything about your life, and you mine. If my brother dies, i have memories, experiences, scars that remind me of him and all the opportunities i would have missed with his passing, you die? I don't read or hear about it, i cease to acknowledge you even existed, and no chances are gained or lost, thereby your death has no bearing on my life.FrostyPhantasm

All empathy is lost. The distance between Human Beings. This is how wars can be fought without a care in the World. A lack of connection and understanding, because it is denied. Do you think this is right?

Wars are hardly fought without a care in the world, they're a last ditch effort that neither side encourages, people come home in coffins and many mourn, it is also a necessity. To not care about a person in Russia getting run over my a car, and shooting a man across the street in Iraq is not the same at all.

Rubbish! Wars are fought over selfishness and greed, more often than not, but more often than not, not a care in the world is given to the poor individuals that were roped into the conflict. A sense of Nationalistic "duty" is often cited, but their lives are sacrificied in vein. What do you think "Nationalism" means?

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="compost-mentis"]

All empathy is lost. The distance between Human Beings. This is how wars can be fought without a care in the World. A lack of connection and understanding, because it is denied. Do you think this is right?

compost-mentis

Wars are hardly fought without a care in the world, they're a last ditch effort that neither side encourages, people come home in coffins and many mourn, it is also a necessity. To not care about a person in Russia getting run over my a car, and shooting a man across the street in Iraq is not the same at all.

Rubbish! Wars are fought over selfishness and greed, more often than not, but more often than not, not a care in the world is given to the poor individuals that were roped into the conflict. A sense of Nationalistic "duty" is often cited, but their lives are sacrificied in vein. What do you think "Nationalism" means?

Nationalism is simply the feeling of community in a largerscale in which people are proud of. Some people START wars for greed and selfishness, obviously that have to, its the people who RESPOND who aren't in it for the greed. Obviously the UN exists for the money involved.