@Starshine_M2A2 said:
The Dark Knight was an atrocious film. Boring, overlong with a weak plot, silly-sounding characters and some of the most pretentious dialogue this side of 2000. One of the most overrated films in history. The Dark Knight Rises, however, was outstanding.
The Dark Knight Rises imo s basically Rocky 3 if it was overlong, convoluted and without the fun.
It has individual parts that are brillaint such as the opening plane scene and Bane picking the Batman character apart but as a whole it's very flabby, trying to be more than it is and probably would have been more effective as a much tighter movie like Rocky 3.
Stuff like Catwomans identity computer thing.. who gives a shit.
Miranda Tate actually Talia Al Ghul? Who gives a shit.
The man trying to take Bruce Waynes company? Who gives a shit.
Solar powered, save the world, power macguffin end Gotham bomb? Who gives a shit.
Scenes just don't fucking work either or resonate emotionally, which is the idea. Like for example, plastering a big burning Batman sign that inspires Foley, a weasel character into attempting to take the city back.
The idea itself, is great. And makes sense, since that's the point of Batman. When it comes to the actual scene, you get a really awkward (to avoid blood) death scene in which he lies on the ground with some weird unintentionally funny smirk.
Which (as with everything in life) reminds me again of Rocky. In Rock 6 he gives a big speech to his son about "how much you can take". Then in the final minute of the fight, he wills himself to get up and bursts into a fit of action with his son remarking "that's the greatest thing i'v ever seen" i.e. inspired...
IMO, Silver Stallone is a directer and producer than Christopher Nolan and Co. Great scenes get cut out for the sake of pacing. Nolan seems to basically say "**** it, lets keep it in" 90% of the time.
Both The Dark Knight And The Dark Knight Rises, would have worked better as much shorter movies imo. Especially 3. Lots of shit going on and hardly any of it I cared about.
Ignoring too many characters and plotlines, the action scenes are too long as well. Flying around the batwing sounds cool but it's drags on and on and on.
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