In U.S., 42% Believe Creationist View of Human Origins.

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#1 Master_Live
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Americans' views related to religiousness, age, education

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I believe humans evolved, but God had no part in process. What say you OT?

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#2 speedfreak48t5p
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This is just plain sad.

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#3 deeliman
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Pretty sad that so many people don't "believe" in evolution.

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#4 xdude85
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Notice how 57% of creationists barely attended high school.

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#5 Jankarcop
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lmao republicans

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#6 4myAmuzumament
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The only things worth believing in are life, love, and death.

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#8 NeoGen85
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Who cares?

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#9 Master_Live
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@NeoGen85 said:

Who cares?

God does.

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@xdude85 said:

Notice how 57% of creationists barely attended high school.

Hahahah, oh dear. Dat irony.

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#11 lostrib
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there's a lot of stupid out there

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#12 wis3boi
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27% of college grads think the earth is 10000 years old.....oye

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#13  Edited By ferrari2001
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Damit Christian fundamentalists stop ignoring the world around you. Science is an integral part of human society.

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@wis3boi said:

27% of college grads think the earth is 10000 years old.....oye

going to college doesn't necessarily mean they're intelligent or that they'll learn anything

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@lostrib said:

@wis3boi said:

27% of college grads think the earth is 10000 years old.....oye

going to college doesn't necessarily mean they're intelligent or that they'll learn anything

Or that they're even going to a secular college. Tons of religious universities out there.

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@foxhound_fox said:

@lostrib said:

@wis3boi said:

27% of college grads think the earth is 10000 years old.....oye

going to college doesn't necessarily mean they're intelligent or that they'll learn anything

Or that they're even going to a secular college. Tons of religious universities out there.

Or they even care about the sciences in the first place. For instance, an anecdotal piece I have back in the day was a gal at my university was given a "how old the earth" is kind of question on a test. She wrote down the right answer with an asterisk, and the notation went on to say that's not what she believes and wrote down the "correct" year of about 10,000 years old.

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what!? dammit people it's 2014! You all evolved from apes! If there was any highly advance life forms that had a hand in it they certainly didn't stick around to listen to your prayers; and it was probably a mistake. You didn't ride around on dinosaurs and the Book of Genesis is a made up story! Stop being so dense! idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.gif

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what!? dammit people it's 2014! You all evolved from apes! If there was any highly advance life forms that had a hand in it they certainly didn't stick around to listen to your prayers; and it was probably a mistake. You didn't ride around on dinosaurs and the Book of Genesis is a made up story! Stop being so dense! idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.gif

I hate to be the technicality police, but we share a common ancestor with modern apes. And I think it was shown recently that going back even further, we evolved from a type of monkey. But that's just a technicality. Rant away!

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@foxhound_fox said:

@pyro1245 said:

what!? dammit people it's 2014! You all evolved from apes! If there was any highly advance life forms that had a hand in it they certainly didn't stick around to listen to your prayers; and it was probably a mistake. You didn't ride around on dinosaurs and the Book of Genesis is a made up story! Stop being so dense! idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.gif

I hate to be the technicality police, but we share a common ancestor with modern apes. And I think it was shown recently that going back even further, we evolved from a type of monkey. But that's just a technicality. Rant away!

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creationism is stupid

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#20 AutoPilotOn
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I am surprised it's not higher. Maybe it's just where I am from but it seems rare to find people who don't at least believe god had role in our evolution.

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#22 foxhound_fox
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@Motokid6 said:

So no one watched COSMOS I take it?

Why would they? They are already cemented in their beliefs. Sense and reason won't change their minds.

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#23 comp_atkins
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what are the statistics for the same questions in other developed nations?

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@AutoPilotOn said:

I am surprised it's not higher. Maybe it's just where I am from but it seems rare to find people who don't at least believe god had role in our evolution.

but the 42% are the ones who don't even believe we evolved, just that God made us as we are now

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#25 AutoPilotOn
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@lostrib: still seems low. The ones who believe god had a role are just one step from fully believing in evolution. Probably just saying god had a role for that chance they are wrong and will be sent to hell for not accepting god lol.

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#26 uninspiredcup
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Is this the bit when a bunch of teenagers starting uni start ranting on about how stupid people are?

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@Motokid6 said:

So no one watched COSMOS I take it?

creationists watched it and shit themselves with anger that they didnt get more air time to spew their bull

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#28 lostrib
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@uninspiredcup said:

Is this the bit when a bunch of teenagers starting uni start ranting on about how stupid people are?

well there are a lot of stupid people out there

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and this is why we can't have nice things

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#30 Starshine_M2A2
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@NeoGen85:

Nobody. Not even that 42% care that they care...

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#31 lightleggy
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I believe evolution is a "God guided process", so to speak, not the words I'd use personally but I guess they work.

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That poll may be deceiving. Stating that you believe "god created humans" doesnt necessarily mean you believe in the bible version or "creationism" per se.

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@sonicare said:

That poll may be deceiving. Stating that you believe "god created humans" doesnt necessarily mean you believe in the bible version or "creationism" per se.

creationism is exactly that.....that a supernatural being made people

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#34  Edited By PS4hasNOgames
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great, i totally agree. evolution does happen but I don't believe in human evolution. there are animals that have been evolving for millions of more years than apes and you don't see them driving cars and building space shuttles. god is real.

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@ps4hasnogames said:

great, i totally agree. evolution does happen but I don't believe in human evolution. there are animals that have been evolving for millions of more years than apes and you don't see them driving cars and building space shuttles. god is real.

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@lostrib said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

great, i totally agree. evolution does happen but I don't believe in human evolution. there are animals that have been evolving for millions of more years than apes and you don't see them driving cars and building space shuttles. god is real.

people without god in their life are depressed. let me ask you this, do you think evil people go to hell?

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I come from quite a religious family, but even so I have never believed in any god. I believe in facts. There is scientific evidence that humans evolved from other forms of life (as the survey puts it) and the formation of the universe has nothing to do with any deity.

However, I usually never discuss religion or ever put down those who believe in god (ie. my whole family). If that is what you believe and it makes you happy, then so be it.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

I come from quite a religious family, but even so I have never believed in any god. I believe in facts. There is scientific evidence that humans evolved from other forms of life (as the survey puts it) and the formation of the universe has nothing to do with any deity.

However, I usually never discuss religion or ever put down those who believe in god (ie. my whole family). If that is what you believe and it makes you happy, then so be it.

if energy cannot be created or destroyed then what or who set off the big bang? to get a ball rolling someone has to give it that initial push. the almighty.

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@ps4hasnogames said:

great, i totally agree. evolution does happen but I don't believe in human evolution. there are animals that have been evolving for millions of more years than apes and you don't see them driving cars and building space shuttles. god is real.

LOL!

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@ps4hasnogames: I'm sure someone much more qualified than me could offer a better insight into scientific studies that have been carried out. However my point of view is that time and space were created after the big bang, which means nothing existed before then. Including any deity. There was no space or time for any god to exist in. On any level.

And yes I know that still leaves the question of what caused the big bang. That's the biggest question that has ever and will ever exist, I believe. Maybe someone with a scientific background could offer a better insight.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@ps4hasnogames: I'm sure someone much more qualified than me could offer a better insight into scientific studies that have been carried out. However my point of view is that time and space were created after the big bang, which means nothing existed before then. Including any deity. There was no space or time for any god to exist in. On any level.

And yes I know that still leaves the question of what caused the big bang. That's the biggest question that has ever and will ever exist, I believe. Maybe someone with a scientific background could offer a better insight.

Im going to delete my real reply because its so damn good that Im not going to waste it on these haters. I deserve a billion dollars for that thought.

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#42  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@ps4hasnogames: Lol. This is why I usually never discuss religion. Everyone has there own beliefs.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@ps4hasnogames: Lol. This is why I usually never discuss religion. Everyone has there own beliefs.

i used to be like you and had no belief in god. then I had an epiphany, its impossible for god not to exist.

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#44  Edited By lostrib
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@ps4hasnogames: what does that have to do with evolution? And can you please link me to the studies that link depression and religion?

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So depressing. Once upon a time I thought stupid, like really stupid would always be funny.

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@ps4hasnogames said:

let me ask you this, do you think evil people go to hell?

No. Because Sheol, Hades, Tartarus and Gehenna, the Greek and Hebrew words in the Bible that are translated into the English 'hell', do not mean what you think 'hell' means.

Sheol = Originally, the physical grave. Later synonymous with Hades.

Hades = The abode of the dead in Greek mythology. All dead end up here, and neither punishment nor reward are given.

Tartarus = The prison of the Titans in Greek mythology.

Gehenna = A valley outside Jerusalem where the mystery sects are said to have sacrificed children.

Now, which one of those is your definition of 'hell'?

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@lightleggy said:

I believe evolution is a "God guided process", so to speak, not the words I'd use personally but I guess they work.

If you believe in both God and human evolution, answer me this: where along the evolutionary line did man acquire an immortal soul, and why didn't his father have one?

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@ps4hasnogames said:

great, i totally agree. evolution does happen but I don't believe in human evolution. there are animals that have been evolving for millions of more years than apes and you don't see them driving cars and building space shuttles. god is real.

Amen. Preach brother, preach!

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#49  Edited By PopeAnonymousXV
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@ps4hasnogames said:

people without god in their life are depressed. let me ask you this, do you think evil people go to hell?

Lot's of really good people go to hell according to your religion, and for no greater crime than being born on the wrong side of the world.

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@Master_Live: Why is it that when I read your thread titles I think "Yeah, sad but I'm not surprised" but when I'm finally done reading your post I always end up thinking "People are just fucked up in the head..."? =P