In 2012, every South Korean home will have a 1 Gbps internet connection

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/technology/22iht-broadband22.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

It's fairly pathetic what private "competition" has given U.S. citizens.

The "the U.S. is a big country" argument doesn't really work when you're talking about 200 times the average speed here.

The one problem with a free market is that the businesses are free to gouge your wallet without government oversight.Netherscourge

I'm not putting down free markets so much as I'm observing that the broadband market is actually very closed to competition here. We have a handful of giant, entrenched players, and that's it.

I don't know how that would work in the US. With a 1Gb/sec download speed you could download 6GB of data in 1 minute. We're already having ISP's throttle people's bandwidth usage.

And yes "the US is a big country" DOES come into play. We have 5 times the population and our country is massive compared to their's. The cost to implement and maintain such infrastructure needed for those speeds would be staggering compared to South Korea.

What can I tell you, the free market is a joke.

Good for them?

Wow... and Canadian ISP's want to meter our internet to 25GB/month + $2/GB over limit. I'm becoming highly unattached to this country now, and can't wait to move somewhere else.

Wow... and Canadian ISP's want to meter our internet to 25GB/month + $2/GB over limit. I'm becoming highly unattached to this country now, and can't wait to move somewhere else.

foxhound_fox

:lol:

With a 1Gb/sec speed you could hit that cap in 4 minutes of continuous downloading.

The one problem with a free market is that the businesses are free to gouge your wallet without government oversight.Netherscourge

I don't know how that would work in the US. With a 1Gb/sec download speed you could download 6GB of data in 1 minute. We're already having ISP's throttle people's bandwidth usage.

And yes "the US is a big country" DOES come into play. We have 5 times the population and our country is massive compared to their's. The cost to implement and maintain such infrastructure needed for those speeds would be staggering compared to South Korea.

howlrunner13

I'm jealous.Lonelynight

Sums up OT overal respose well.

EDIT: Yes, I am in the jealous crowd too. Its 1000 times faster then my internet (literally, 1mbps)

The big country argument does work in this case. The bottom line is you have 50 states and over 3000 miles of country side from the east coast to the west coast and you really want to say that does not play a role? Do you know how much it coast to run fiber? Then take into consideration of the population. There are tons of reasons why we don't have a 1Gb internet speed here. It's really common sense.

[QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

I don't know how that would work in the US. With a 1Gb/sec download speed you could download 6GB of data in 1 minute. We're already having ISP's throttle people's bandwidth usage.

And yes "the US is a big country" DOES come into play. We have 5 times the population and our country is massive compared to their's. The cost to implement and maintain such infrastructure needed for those speeds would be staggering compared to South Korea.

EntropyWins

Yeah, I mentioned we have 5 times the population. :P

I'm not saying we couldn't improve our service or that we waste alot of money. I was just responding to the part of the original post that said the US is a big country argument doesn't come into play.

But if you were agreeing with me then nevermind. :P

Sums up SW overal respose well.dercoo

[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

[QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

I don't know how that would work in the US. With a 1Gb/sec download speed you could download 6GB of data in 1 minute. We're already having ISP's throttle people's bandwidth usage.

And yes "the US is a big country" DOES come into play. We have 5 times the population and our country is massive compared to their's. The cost to implement and maintain such infrastructure needed for those speeds would be staggering compared to South Korea.

howlrunner13

Yeah, I mentioned we have 5 times the population. :P

I'm not saying we couldn't improve our service or that we waste alot of money. I was just responding to the part of the original post that said the US is a big country argument doesn't come into play.

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]The one problem with a free market is that the businesses are free to gouge your wallet without government oversight.superfluidity

I'm not putting down free markets so much as I'm observing that the broadband market is actually very closed to competition here. We have a handful of giant, entrenched players, and that's it.

Also, an issue, what about harddrive write speeds? Unless you have a huge raid of hdd's or sdds, you can't write at 1gb/s... Guess it could be stored in memory for a little while.Inconsistancy

It's only so they can crush the rest of us at Starcraft and Counterstrike even faster.

It's only so they can crush the rest of us at Starcraft and Counterstrike even faster.

Enid_Green

What I think will be interesting is if soon we start seeing unique high-bandwidth services develop in some countries that people in the U.S. are completely unable to enjoy.

We could see a situation where ultra-HD video conferencing and telecommuting become the norm in other places while the U.S. is left using archaic technologies.

[QUOTE="dercoo"]Sums up SW overal respose well.Lonelynight

Now Fixed

Well they would be jealous too.

Jealousy is SW nature:P

The one problem with a free market is that the businesses are free to gouge your wallet without government oversight.Netherscourge

can what we have even be considered "broadband" anymore compared to that? comp_atkins

What I think will be interesting is if soon we start seeing unique high-bandwidth services develop in some countries that people in the U.S. are completely unable to enjoy.

We could see a situation where ultra-HD video conferencing and telecommuting become the norm in other places while the U.S. is left using archaic technologies.

superfluidity

What do you suggest we do?

The big country argument does work in this case. The bottom line is you have 50 states and over 3000 miles of country side from the east coast to the west coast and you really want to say that does not play a role? Do you know how much it coast to run fiber? Then take into consideration of the population. There are tons of reasons why we don't have a 1Gb internet speed here. It's really common sense.

xscrapzx

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]The one problem with a free market is that the businesses are free to gouge your wallet without government oversight.superfluidity

I'm not putting down free markets so much as I'm observing that the broadband market is actually very closed to competition here. We have a handful of giant, entrenched players, and that's it.

yeah, in my town we only have one provider, and it shows. They dont care, period: my friend lives half a mile outside city limits and hasnt had internet for thre years now because it isnt offered. If there were at least two companies, they'd be fighting to extend service out there.

outages are frequent, price hikes occur monthly and for no good reason.

What do you suggest we do?

gatorteen

I would imagine invest in our infrastructure more and bust the ISP cartel we currently have.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

The big country argument does work in this case. The bottom line is you have 50 states and over 3000 miles of country side from the east coast to the west coast and you really want to say that does not play a role? Do you know how much it coast to run fiber? Then take into consideration of the population. There are tons of reasons why we don't have a 1Gb internet speed here. It's really common sense.

comp_atkins

it was done for the military, first of all, so there wasnt much motivation needed.

second, running roads betweens cities and buildings is one thing, running a cable into each and every house and then under or overthe roads to the provider is quite another

third, considering how long it takes CalTrans to add a third lane on a highway, I am hesitant to even let the government bother putting up internet lines lol.

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]The one problem with a free market is that the businesses are free to gouge your wallet without government oversight.sonicare

third, considering how long it takes CalTrans to add a third lane on a highway, I am hesitant to even let the government bother putting up internet lines lol.

mrbojangles25

I live in California as well. It took almost a year and a half for a freeway entrance to be built near where I live (as in from project beginning to end). We also recently had a street light put in on a local road, 4 months passed between the day they removed the stop sign and the day the light turned on.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

third, considering how long it takes CalTrans to add a third lane on a highway, I am hesitant to even let the government bother putting up internet lines lol.

superfluidity

I live in California as well. It took almost a year and a half for a freeway entrance to be built near where I live (as in from project beginning to end). We also recently had a street light put in on a local road, 4 months passed between the day they removed the stop sign and the day the light turned on.

are you from the bay area by chance? is the new bay bridge done yet?

I Havent driven to San Francisco for years, but I remember that project starting like 7+ years agoo irrc.

are you from the bay area by chance? is the new bay bridge done yet?

I Havent driven to San Francisco for years, but I remember that project starting like 7+ years agoo irrc.

mrbojangles25

I live Northeast of Sacramento in a newer development, so I've gotten to see a lot of snail paced projects here.

That's disgusting /jealous. Vacation to South Korea just to see 1gb/s. Good thing my computer's only got a 100mb connection x.x. Also, an issue, what about harddrive write speeds? Unless you have a huge raid of hdd's or sdds, you can't write at 1gb/s... Guess it could be stored in memory for a little while.Inconsistancy

How else are they going to dominate the world of Starcraft 2?sSubZerOo

I'm fairly sure most Koreans could still dominate me in SC2 using dial-up.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]The one problem with a free market is that the businesses are free to gouge your wallet without government oversight.Ace6301

Generally in markets where there is competition there is also innovation and improvement. People are dumb, but they figure stuff out eventually. And there's always the people who will jump on the train upon arrival.

Anyway, I'd kill for a giga-bit/second.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

The big country argument does work in this case. The bottom line is you have 50 states and over 3000 miles of country side from the east coast to the west coast and you really want to say that does not play a role? Do you know how much it coast to run fiber? Then take into consideration of the population. There are tons of reasons why we don't have a 1Gb internet speed here. It's really common sense.

mrbojangles25

it was done for the military, first of all, so there wasnt much motivation needed.

second, running roads betweens cities and buildings is one thing, running a cable into each and every house and then under or overthe roads to the provider is quite another

third, considering how long it takes CalTrans to add a third lane on a highway, I am hesitant to even let the government bother putting up internet lines lol.

Strange, I dont seem to care.

All I use the internet for is internet, daily Lp's on youtube (let plays), every other day video uploads, gamespot, and other stuff. And all of them run pretty fast with this pathetic DSL connection that I have. Sure I could go faster, but what would the point be? For multiple video and picture file uploads? Ha! My parents dont even know how to use social networks properly, and me and my brothers basicly hate social networks. My brother only uploads a single video every day or so, and that is basicly how it is done with most Lpers on youtube. And then for gaming, I'd imagine that 1 gig speed would be really helpful, in theory, but my 3 computers arent compatible with 1 gig a sec dowload speed and not to forget to mention that no one in my family PC games or even online multiplayer on the consoles. So if we were to get 1 gig a sec download speed connect (free or not) it would completely go to waste.