Illegal to show public swastika?

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#1 Jessenator
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The other night I was driving home from work and I saw a new subdivision with about 8 flags at the entrance that all said the name of the real estate company. Thats when I got the idea to switch those flags with pirate flags. Over the past day or so it has evolved into a plan to fly Nazi flags instead of the real estate ones. I'm not a nazi, i just like to piss people off. Will this be considered a hate crime? Other than the probable theft/vandalism charges will there be anything else I should be afraid of? Is it even legal to show a nazi sign on public property? Edit: Alright, suppose I erect (hehe) my own flag pole with a nazi sign in it and put it next to the other flags. No harm is done, no vandalism occurs. if they don't like it they can take it away. I'll make a stand for it so it won't make a hole. What will they charge me with, littering?
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#2 Kuruption84
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If you're not a Nazi then why would you want to do it? Kinda dicey as to if it's a hate crime or not. Could be considered vandalism. You'll make the news that's for sure. And if you get caught you'll surely be arrested. Not worth it even if you were a Nazi. There are better was to piss people of then some insensitive crap such as this.
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#3 delol
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Not in the USA
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#4 Hungry_bunny
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Nazi emblems aren't considered funny in any way, they'll surely call the cops right away, whether it's illegal or not.
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#5 ShamrockRovers
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It is Germany so I heard.

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#6 ferrari2001
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People find that offensive so I'm sure alot of people would be pissed off.
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#7 GettingTired
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Doubt you'll get in any trouble. Just do it.
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#8 Scarker
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You know, I would just, not recommend it...
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#9 luisen123
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I'll say go for it, If you're caught most likely you'll just get some time for vandalism..

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#10 Manly-manly-man
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It shouldn't be. The swastika is a symbol thousands of years old, and one culture, a relatively recent one, has ANY negative connontations. It has been a symbol of luck, fortune, and peace for far longer than it has symolized hate, so unless you are wearing it for the prupose of expressing you being a Nazi, none should be offended. And even if you ARE, it is not illegal, just don't try to express your views strongly in public.

Edit: After reading your post, I have this to say: You are a little dumbass. What you are planning on doing has absolutely no purpose other than wanting to get attention, and using a symbol that many find offensive, and they very well should, is something you should be ashamed of. If you do go through with this, I sincerely hope you get arrested AT LEAST, and in my opinion you deserve considerably worse than a few hours in jail until your parents bail you out.

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#11 Montaya
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Stick with the pirate flags, a nazi flag is very disgraceful.
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The other night I was driving home from work and I saw a new subdivision with about 8 flags at the entrance that all said the name of the real estate company. Thats when I got the idea to switch those flags with pirate flags. Over the past day or so it has evolved into a plan to fly Nazi flags instead of the real estate ones. I'm not a nazi, i just like to piss people off. Will this be considered a hate crime? Other than the probable theft/vandalism charges will there be anything else I should be afraid of? Is it even legal to show a nazi sign on public property?Jessenator

flying a nazi flag is technically no more illegal than switching it with pirate flags, however an emotional judge might make the sentence harder

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#13 TheHimura
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It isn't illegal to show a swastika sign as far as I know. After all, there are shirts with the swastika sign on it.

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I'd stick with the Jolly Roger. :D
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#15 AlternatingCaps
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It's not illegal to show a swastika in public, but you won't be very popular for doing it as I'm sure you're aware. Depending on the interpretation of the person it might be hate crime (as in it seems like you're trying to spread some sort of neo-nazi messge) or just vandalism.

If it were my place that got a Nazi flag put on it, I'd be a bit freaked out and think someone hateful put it there tbh. I'd also wonder why since I'm not Jewish, Slavic, or homosexual.

Really, unless it's accompanied by other Hindu symbols, I'd stay out of that territory since it's such a stigma in our society, not to mention unfunny.

Though I'd discourage this asinine prank altogether, I'd say stick with the pirate flag since that'd at least be kinda funny. I mean, I'd lol if I routinely passed by there and saw that, but if I was visiting from out of town and saw it for the first time, I'd just be kinda "wtf?!"

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#16 leviathan91
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It's a very offensive symbol, even if you're joking. It is legal in some countries, such as the U.S. but showing it in Germany can get you in a lot of trouble.

Unless the swastika is used for religious purposes (like Hinduism) then it's alright.

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#17 D3nnyCrane
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The displaying of a political emblem is not illegal. However, if I read your post right (and apologies if I didnt) it was a residential complex? Tampering with anything there may be prosecuting you with anything from breach of peace to criminal nuisance to trespassing. Up to you if you wanna do it, just be aware that there can be legal ramifications.
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#18 joeytentz
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Not illegal in USA, but very much immoral.
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#19 Mythbuster4ever
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Imagine a hatefull oppressive regime that has killed hundreds of thousands of people for being Jewish, Homosexual, and Slavic, and who wanted to dominate the world using a picture of 3 lines and an X through them. Now, would you want someone with a flag with 3 lines and an X through them living next door?

On a side note, some of these symbols are being used in a different manner. the triangle was used in concentration camp to identify homosexuals, now, its become a symbol many gays are proud of, so it can go either way.

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#20 Mystery-
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Not in the US or Canada...
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#22 StephenHu
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If you're going to piss people off, why not wear a shirt with the swastika so people know who to get pissed off at.
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#23 The_Mac_Daddy
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Put Mexican flags up. That will get everyone all jacked up.
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#24 Jessenator
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because it's funnier when people think that it's a Nazi subdivision. Also, one post got me thinking: A gay pride flag. that wouldn't be quite as bad, would it?
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Let's put it this way...I don't think you're gonna be conicted of a hate crime if you're not committing a crime. But if you're committing a crime, hate crime charges are possble.

As in, calling a black person "that word" isn't a crime, so you won't get charged with a hate crime.

But andalism is a crime. So if you decide to andalise a black church by leaing a burning cross on the front lawn, you're probably gonna get in some serious trouble. It's a crime anyway, and the fact that it was hate-related makes it a potential hate crime.

So...I guess you could put up a Nazi flag next to the other flags. But you'd better make DAMN sure that you put the Nazi flag on your own property. If someone else owns the property, it's technically illegal for you to put ANYTHING there. And to break a law while giing the impression that what you're doing is race-related is just...stupid. Not just stupid, but INCREDIBLY stupid.

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Let's put it this way...I don't think you're gonna be conicted of a hate crime if you're not committing a crime. But if you're committing a crime, hate crime charges are possble.

As in, calling a black person "that word" isn't a crime, so you won't get charged with a hate crime.

But andalism is a crime. So if you decide to andalise a black church by leaing a burning cross on the front lawn, you're probably gonna get in some serious trouble. It's a crime anyway, and the fact that it was hate-related makes it a potential hate crime.

So...I guess you could put up a Nazi flag next to the other flags. But you'd better make DAMN sure that you put the Nazi flag on your own property. If someone else owns the property, it's technically illegal for you to put ANYTHING there. And to break a law while giing the impression that what you're doing is race-related is just...stupid. Not just stupid, but INCREDIBLY stupid.

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#27 SpaceMoose
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No, it's not illegal. Stupid, but not illegal. Frankly, I think even wanting to do that kind of makes you an idiot...

Anyway, kind of pointless side note:

The Swastika existed in Hinduism, Buddhism, and some other religions long before the it became associated with the Nazi party. While it is pretty much invariably associated with Nazism in most Western countries, don't assume that is has that sort of connotation everywhere.

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#28 Jessenator
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Let's put it this way...I don't think you're gonna be conicted of a hate crime if you're not committing a crime. But if you're committing a crime, hate crime charges are possble.

As in, calling a black person "that word" isn't a crime, so you won't get charged with a hate crime.

But andalism is a crime. So if you decide to andalise a black church by leaing a burning cross on the front lawn, you're probably gonna get in some serious trouble. It's a crime anyway, and the fact that it was hate-related makes it a potential hate crime.

So...I guess you could put up a Nazi flag next to the other flags. But you'd better make DAMN sure that you put the Nazi flag on your own property. If someone else owns the property, it's technically illegal for you to put ANYTHING there. And to break a law while giing the impression that what you're doing is race-related is just...stupid. Not just stupid, but INCREDIBLY stupid.

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#29 Adonymous
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only in germany.

btw you should do it.

The Swastika is not a symbol of hate.

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#30 Film-Guy
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Am I the only one who read the topic title as Illegal to show pubic swastika?