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As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.LukeAF24Do you think it would be ok if there weren't any whatsoever in Mexico?
[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.quiglythegreatDo you think it would be ok if there weren't any whatsoever in Mexico? Not in the least, but my statement is only used to show that they really have no business coming here. If it was Somalia, I wouldn't agree with it, but at least I would understand why they would do it. Most of the money they earn here isn't even spent here.
As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.LukeAF24not really
[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.Carlos_Santananot really I've traveled throughout Mexico almost in it's entirety. I can name at least a dozen cities that are very well off.
[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"]As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.LukeAF24not really I've traveled throughout Mexico almost in it's entirety. I can name at least a dozen cities that are very well off.
Its still Socialism which is why they jump the border.
Its still Socialism which is why they jump the border.Could have fooled me. Last time I was there (last month) it was a democratic republic. I should really stay in the loop.Shadow2k6
1. breaking the law when all other immigrant groups came here legallyim_very_kindRight...because America was taken from the Native Americans in the most polite and civilized way possible :roll:
2. coming onto our streets and messing our own people up, do you expect us to say "oh well, my daughter just died from a lazy drug dealer but you know hes only doing what he can to support his family in mexico even though he hasnt gone back there in 10 years"im_very_kindThere are plenty of legal citizen drug dealers. I don't support drug dealers coming into this country. I could say "ban white people from this city because there are very few who are drug dealers". Second, that was a murderer you described that killed your daughter. Not a drug dealer. If you're saying drugs killed her...well who's fault was that really?
3.america does not need to be the welfare supporter of the world. we have our own issues, if mexico sucks let the mexicans fix it. its not our damn problem, and i totally support giving the troops permission to shoot to kill when they see someone crossing over.im_very_kindJustice is not shooting people who are doing something illegal. Lot's of people are losing money because of people who use Limewire. Should we shoot those people? If you were extremely poor, would you be in a position to fix the gov. It's not like Mexico isn't even trying. Do you expect poor people to say "I'll wait until Mexico fixes it. Everything will be handy-dandy!"
4. i dont care what you say, its not as hard as you think it is to come to this country. many poor people from other countries come here all the time, infact theres many poor mexicans that come here legally. so i DONT care if some lazy people cant get it together to cross the right way.im_very_kindVisa's, green cards' etc. are expensive. Do you have any evidence to support you'r claim that people in the EXACT same scenario and poverty level can get here legally? The majority come from border towns, and there are very very few places to get the right documentation in those. Second, in takes time to come here legally. Not everyone has time.
5. like i said, all other groups came here legally and its an insult to themim_very_kindnot really
my ancestors were suffering far worse fates than any of those ungreatful mexicans who come over illegally. the irish coffin boats? world war two?im_very_kindIs it possible they had different resources than Mexico. Ireland is much more stable of a gov. than Mexico
oh but yeah, just let these people come over.im_very_kindIt's not like we can stop them without comitting immoral acts.
i mean they tried so hard to break the law and put our people in jeopardyim_very_kindNot all illegal immigrants want to put people in jeopardy. Stereotyping?
yeah, but then again since they arent white i guess its okay to give them a little bit of a handout and still claim equallity?im_very_kindDidn't white people steal the Indians land and literally force them to move to an area where it is nearly impossible for them to live off of? So, I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that they aren't white
[QUOTE="groovdafied"][QUOTE="KrayzieJ"]they took our jabs!mr111111Derk-a-derrrrrr
they took our jabs!KrayzieJNo offense man but if a person who just crossed the border with no experience or anything took your job...Than the person who lost their job must have been a pretty bad employee with a pretty bad job.
[QUOTE="groovdafied"][QUOTE="KrayzieJ"]they took our jabs!mr111111Derk-a-derrrrrr
I don't know, xenophobia maybe, although immigration is an important issue, it is suspiciously blown out of proportion and demonized.yoshi-lnexQuoted for truthiness
[QUOTE="Stikke"]Anyone who supports illegals has not been around them. There are thousands in my town.
There are literally hundreds of them loitering outside Home Depo everyday. The cops won't do anything about it. :evil:
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[QUOTE="mr111111"][QUOTE="Stikke"]Anyone who supports illegals has not been around them. There are thousands in my town.
There are literally hundreds of them loitering outside Home Depo everyday. The cops won't do anything about it. :evil:
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Here are some statistics from the Los Angeles Times:
40 percent of all workers are working for cash and not paying taxes. Why would they want to be legal and pay taxes? They would be able to start bringing the rest of their families to the USA.
75 percent of people on L.A.'s most-wanted list are illegal aliens.
Over two-thirds of all births are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by the taxpayers.
Nearly 25 percent of all inmates in California detention centers are here illegally.
Over 300,000 illegals are living in garages.
The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegals from south of the border.
Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
Of the 10 million people in Los Angeles County, 5.1 million speak English and 3.9 million speak Spanish.
21 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish speaking.
More statistics:
Less than 2 percent of illegals are picking crops but 29 percent are on welfare.
Over 70 percent of the U.S. annual population growth (over 90 percent of California, Florida and New York) are from immigration.
29 percent of inmates in the federal prisons are illegal aliens.
The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative.
They also send between about $15 billion back to Mexico to assist their families and prop up the corrupt Mexican government that keeps most of its citizens in poverty. How about a revolt in their own country!
A new figure from yesterday: It cost Los Angeles $276 million in welfare costs for 100,000 children of illegal aliens.
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Even though it's true that drug dealers enter through the mexican border (I've never heard of a terrorist going through there) most people just want to go there and work to support their families. The reason they don't go there legally is because they have no money, no education and no future. Why do people resent them so much?jm4847
It's insulting to all the legal immigrants that have ever come to the US.
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