Illegal immigrats.

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#1 Posted by jm4847 (3535 posts) -
Even though it's true that drug dealers enter through the mexican border (I've never heard of a terrorist going through there) most people just want to go there and work to support their families. The reason they don't go there legally is because they have no money, no education and no future. Why do people resent them so much?
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#2 Posted by KrayzieJ (3283 posts) -
they took our jabs!
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#3 Posted by deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e (8419 posts) -
As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.
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#4 Posted by bender007 (4377 posts) -
porbably forgot to pull out in time
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#5 Posted by atrain4 (1408 posts) -
they took our jabs!KrayzieJ
South Park???
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#6 Posted by LA_lakers_4life (7051 posts) -
because they are illegal aliens....if they want to get respected they should go through the process the legal way....if they come illegally they do not belong here and should be deported...its that simple....i know its harsh.....but theres no place for illegal aliens here
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#7 Posted by Loonie (3455 posts) -
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11242-fatal-attraction-of-the-us.html Fairly relevant artical. (Although you cant see the full artical unless you subscribe) [quote="Article"]Over the years, millions of would-be immigrants have attempted to cross the border illegally into Texas and California. Now fences and increased surveillance close to border cities in these states, such as El Paso and San Diego, appear to be funnelling illegal immigrants into thinly populated areas of Arizona. In this harsh desert terrain they have been dying in record numbers. The study, published last week by the American Immigration Law Foundation, is based on a detailed examination of more than 900 autopsy reports from Pima county, Arizona, from 1990 to 2005. During this time, there was a 20-fold increase in illegal immigrant deaths in the county, which borders Mexico.

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#8 Posted by trigun3x (1987 posts) -
they took our jabs!KrayzieJ
they took your jaaaabbbbb
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#9 Posted by chip_money (2748 posts) -
Build a REALLY big wall
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#10 Posted by double_decker (146040 posts) -
If they seriously want to improve thier lives they should go through the process of becoming a U.S. Citizen and do it the right way, not illegally
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#11 Posted by quiglythegreat (16886 posts) -
As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.LukeAF24
Do you think it would be ok if there weren't any whatsoever in Mexico?
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#12 Posted by im_very_kind (411 posts) -
[QUOTE="jm4847"]Even though it's true that drug dealers enter through the mexican border (I've never heard of a terrorist going through there) most people just want to go there and work to support their families. The reason they don't go there legally is because they have no money, no education and no future. Why do people resent them so much?

1. breaking the law when all other immigrant groups came here legally

2. coming onto our streets and messing our own people up, do you expect us to say "oh well, my daughter just died from a lazy drug dealer but you know hes only doing what he can to support his family in mexico even though he hasnt gone back there in 10 years"

3.america does not need to be the welfare supporter of the world. we have our own issues, if mexico sucks let the mexicans fix it. its not our damn problem, and i totally support giving the troops permission to shoot to kill when they see someone crossing over.

4. i dont care what you say, its not as hard as you think it is to come to this country. many poor people from other countries come here all the time, infact theres many poor mexicans that come here legally. so i DONT care if some lazy people cant get it together to cross the right way.

5. like i said, all other groups came here legally and its an insult to them. my ancestors were suffering far worse fates than any of those ungreatful mexicans who come over illegally. the irish coffin boats? world war two? oh but yeah, just let these people come over. i mean they tried so hard to break the law and put our people in jeopardy. yeah, but then again since they arent white i guess its okay to give them a little bit of a handout and still claim equallity?
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#13 Posted by brennan40 (223 posts) -
[QUOTE="KrayzieJ"]they took our jabs!trigun3x
they took your jaaaabbbbb

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#14 Posted by deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e (8419 posts) -
[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.quiglythegreat
Do you think it would be ok if there weren't any whatsoever in Mexico?

Not in the least, but my statement is only used to show that they really have no business coming here. If it was Somalia, I wouldn't agree with it, but at least I would understand why they would do it. Most of the money they earn here isn't even spent here.
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#15 Posted by Carlos_Santana (4316 posts) -
As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.LukeAF24
not really
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#16 Posted by deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e (8419 posts) -
[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.Carlos_Santana
not really

I've traveled throughout Mexico almost in it's entirety. I can name at least a dozen cities that are very well off.
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#17 Posted by Shadow2k6 (2283 posts) -

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"]As I've said before, there are plenty of middle class places in Mexico, no need for them to travel here when there is plenty of room in their own country.LukeAF24
not really

I've traveled throughout Mexico almost in it's entirety. I can name at least a dozen cities that are very well off.

Its still Socialism which is why they jump the border.

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#18 Posted by deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e (8419 posts) -
Its still Socialism which is why they jump the border.

Shadow2k6

Could have fooled me. Last time I was there (last month) it was a democratic republic. I should really stay in the loop.

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#19 Posted by J-Man725 (6786 posts) -
I have a close friend who is an illegal, so needless to say, its a bit akward when we talk about this subject in our history class.. :?
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#20 Posted by rad_2xl (1082 posts) -
[QUOTE="im_very_kind"][QUOTE="jm4847"]Even though it's true that drug dealers enter through the mexican border (I've never heard of a terrorist going through there) most people just want to go there and work to support their families. The reason they don't go there legally is because they have no money, no education and no future. Why do people resent them so much?

1. breaking the law when all other immigrant groups came here legally

2. coming onto our streets and messing our own people up, do you expect us to say "oh well, my daughter just died from a lazy drug dealer but you know hes only doing what he can to support his family in mexico even though he hasnt gone back there in 10 years"

3.america does not need to be the welfare supporter of the world. we have our own issues, if mexico sucks let the mexicans fix it. its not our damn problem, and i totally support giving the troops permission to shoot to kill when they see someone crossing over.

4. i dont care what you say, its not as hard as you think it is to come to this country. many poor people from other countries come here all the time, infact theres many poor mexicans that come here legally. so i DONT care if some lazy people cant get it together to cross the right way.

5. like i said, all other groups came here legally and its an insult to them. my ancestors were suffering far worse fates than any of those ungreatful mexicans who come over illegally. the irish coffin boats? world war two? oh but yeah, just let these people come over. i mean they tried so hard to break the law and put our people in jeopardy. yeah, but then again since they arent white i guess its okay to give them a little bit of a handout and still claim equallity?

there's soooo much wrong there I wonder if it's really worth the trouble to quote/reply to you. Mexicans cross a river to find a better life. English people, your pure, white and proud ancestors, crossed an ocean for the same reason. Truth be told, Mexicans should fight for their rights in Mexico. Mexico is actually a very rich country but their leaders are extremly corrupted and basically don't care about the people. Specially now that the right wing party is ruling there. Poor Mexicans are neglected from everything ans those are the ones coming to America. Whenever they protest they get shot. Whenever they vote against bad politicians they suffer frauds. That's their 2 choices. As I said, I still beleive they should fight to get their country back from all those corrupted leaders. That said, you make all immigrants sound like drug dealing criminals, and you must know that's false. Most "wetbacks" come here and work the hardest jobs and get paid peanuts. About drugs, the basic economical law of offer and demand tells us that dealers couldn't sell their crap if there were no consumers. Ah... the world.
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#21 Posted by groovdafied (5012 posts) -
they took our jabs!KrayzieJ
Derk-a-derrrrrr
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#22 Posted by Carlos_Santana (4316 posts) -
1. breaking the law when all other immigrant groups came here legallyim_very_kind
Right...because America was taken from the Native Americans in the most polite and civilized way possible :roll:
2. coming onto our streets and messing our own people up, do you expect us to say "oh well, my daughter just died from a lazy drug dealer but you know hes only doing what he can to support his family in mexico even though he hasnt gone back there in 10 years"im_very_kind
There are plenty of legal citizen drug dealers. I don't support drug dealers coming into this country. I could say "ban white people from this city because there are very few who are drug dealers". Second, that was a murderer you described that killed your daughter. Not a drug dealer. If you're saying drugs killed her...well who's fault was that really?
3.america does not need to be the welfare supporter of the world. we have our own issues, if mexico sucks let the mexicans fix it. its not our damn problem, and i totally support giving the troops permission to shoot to kill when they see someone crossing over.im_very_kind
Justice is not shooting people who are doing something illegal. Lot's of people are losing money because of people who use Limewire. Should we shoot those people? If you were extremely poor, would you be in a position to fix the gov. It's not like Mexico isn't even trying. Do you expect poor people to say "I'll wait until Mexico fixes it. Everything will be handy-dandy!"
4. i dont care what you say, its not as hard as you think it is to come to this country. many poor people from other countries come here all the time, infact theres many poor mexicans that come here legally. so i DONT care if some lazy people cant get it together to cross the right way.im_very_kind
Visa's, green cards' etc. are expensive. Do you have any evidence to support you'r claim that people in the EXACT same scenario and poverty level can get here legally? The majority come from border towns, and there are very very few places to get the right documentation in those. Second, in takes time to come here legally. Not everyone has time.
5. like i said, all other groups came here legally and its an insult to themim_very_kind
not really
my ancestors were suffering far worse fates than any of those ungreatful mexicans who come over illegally. the irish coffin boats? world war two?im_very_kind
Is it possible they had different resources than Mexico. Ireland is much more stable of a gov. than Mexico
oh but yeah, just let these people come over.im_very_kind
It's not like we can stop them without comitting immoral acts.
i mean they tried so hard to break the law and put our people in jeopardyim_very_kind
Not all illegal immigrants want to put people in jeopardy. Stereotyping?
yeah, but then again since they arent white i guess its okay to give them a little bit of a handout and still claim equallity?im_very_kind
Didn't white people steal the Indians land and literally force them to move to an area where it is nearly impossible for them to live off of? So, I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that they aren't white
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#23 Posted by mr111111 (2840 posts) -
[QUOTE="KrayzieJ"]they took our jabs!groovdafied
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#24 Posted by groovdafied (5012 posts) -
[QUOTE="groovdafied"][QUOTE="KrayzieJ"]they took our jabs!mr111111
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#25 Posted by comthitnuong (10093 posts) -
they took our jabs!KrayzieJ
No offense man but if a person who just crossed the border with no experience or anything took your job...Than the person who lost their job must have been a pretty bad employee with a pretty bad job.
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#26 Posted by yoshi-lnex (5442 posts) -
I don't know, xenophobia maybe, although immigration is an important issue, it is suspiciously blown out of proportion and demonized.
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#27 Posted by yoshi-lnex (5442 posts) -
[QUOTE="groovdafied"][QUOTE="KrayzieJ"]they took our jabs!mr111111
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#28 Posted by Carlos_Santana (4316 posts) -
I don't know, xenophobia maybe, although immigration is an important issue, it is suspiciously blown out of proportion and demonized.yoshi-lnex
Quoted for truthiness
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#29 Posted by Stikke (4192 posts) -
Anyone who supports illegals has not been around them. There are thousands in my town.

There are literally hundreds of them loitering outside Home Depo everyday. The cops won't do anything about it. :evil:
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#30 Posted by mr111111 (2840 posts) -
Anyone who supports illegals has not been around them. There are thousands in my town.

There are literally hundreds of them loitering outside Home Depo everyday. The cops won't do anything about it. :evil:
Stikke


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lol wut
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#31 Posted by fluffers623 (1769 posts) -
most ppl dont know the difference if they are legal or illegal. Ppl will still make fun of them even if they are legal
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#32 Posted by rad_2xl (1082 posts) -
[QUOTE="Stikke"]Anyone who supports illegals has not been around them. There are thousands in my town.

There are literally hundreds of them loitering outside Home Depo everyday. The cops won't do anything about it. :evil:
mr111111


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lol wut

yeah, that's a great idea. Jesus. Tell a kid to get a rifle and shoot people so he can spend the rest of his youth in jail where lots of fun things will happen to him.
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#33 Posted by mr111111 (2840 posts) -
[QUOTE="mr111111"][QUOTE="Stikke"]Anyone who supports illegals has not been around them. There are thousands in my town.

There are literally hundreds of them loitering outside Home Depo everyday. The cops won't do anything about it. :evil:
rad_2xl


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lol wut

yeah, that's a great idea. Jesus. Tell a kid to get a rifle and shoot people so he can spend the rest of his youth in jail where lots of fun things will happen to him.



LOL WUT



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#34 Posted by Stikke (4192 posts) -

Here are some statistics from the Los Angeles Times:

40 percent of all workers are working for cash and not paying taxes. Why would they want to be legal and pay taxes? They would be able to start bringing the rest of their families to the USA.

75 percent of people on L.A.'s most-wanted list are illegal aliens.

Over two-thirds of all births are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by the taxpayers.

Nearly 25 percent of all inmates in California detention centers are here illegally.

Over 300,000 illegals are living in garages.

The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegals from south of the border.

Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

Of the 10 million people in Los Angeles County, 5.1 million speak English and 3.9 million speak Spanish.

21 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish speaking.

More statistics:

Less than 2 percent of illegals are picking crops but 29 percent are on welfare.

Over 70 percent of the U.S. annual population growth (over 90 percent of California, Florida and New York) are from immigration.

29 percent of inmates in the federal prisons are illegal aliens.

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative.

They also send between about $15 billion back to Mexico to assist their families and prop up the corrupt Mexican government that keeps most of its citizens in poverty. How about a revolt in their own country!

A new figure from yesterday: It cost Los Angeles $276 million in welfare costs for 100,000 children of illegal aliens.


 


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#36 Posted by Gen-Gawl (3925 posts) -

Even though it's true that drug dealers enter through the mexican border (I've never heard of a terrorist going through there) most people just want to go there and work to support their families. The reason they don't go there legally is because they have no money, no education and no future. Why do people resent them so much?jm4847

It's insulting to all the legal immigrants that have ever come to the US.