If Obama is a socialist president

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#1 samanthademeste
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Then how come he did not do the following?

-decrease military spending if not abolish the military

-regulate banks and companies and/or abolish the federal reserve

-give Americans a free, universal. socialized, government payed for health care system

-invest in and/or increase government spending in non-profit organizations and unions

-build better relations with Russia, China and their allies

-decrease corruption

-have strict gun control laws similar to Canada and the United Kingdom

-make the USA more like Canada, France and the Scandinavian countries

-improve the education system

-aid the poor and the sick

among other things.

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#2 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Only people who say Obama is a socialist are ones who do not know what that word means.

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#3 lostrib
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Well unless he wants to executive order everything, which I don't think he even could for many of those, it would need congress to actually do shit.

...and well, it's Congress so good luck with that

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#4  Edited By jasean79
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What's the point of this thread? Is there one?

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#5 samanthademeste
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@jasean79:

I don't see how anyone with even the most basic understanding of economics could call Obama a socialist. He's a lot more capitalist leaning then socialist leaning in his policies.

@Aljosa23:

Im not American, but the American government seems to be more capitalist then even the United Kingdom and South Korea.

@lostrib:

Just asking a question.

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#6 Master_Live
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Like totally, he is a socialist.

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#7 jasean79
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@samanthademeste: Can you provide examples of how he is more for capitalism then?

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#8 samanthademeste
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@jasean79:

-making compromises with the Tea Party movement

-cooperating with banks, companies, factories and other financial institutions

-cooperating with rich people

-Making compromises with Republicans and Libertarians

@Master_Live:

That was a joke I hope.

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#9 Riverwolf007
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how many of us are not socialists?

we all use public funding for all kinds of shit.

you have to be braindead to not realize you are a socialist.

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#10 _Colossus_
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Hehe, he is going to have to go pretty far down the line to become a socialist. A universal health care system hardly makes anyone directly a socialist either. Just look at Germany, UK or even Canada, for instance.

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#11 jasean79
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@samanthademeste said:

@jasean79:

-making compromises with the Tea Party movement

-cooperating with banks, companies, factories and other financial institutions

-cooperating with rich people

-Making compromises with Republicans and Libertarians

Are we talking about the same Obama here?!

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#12  Edited By GreySeal9
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@jasean79 said:

@samanthademeste: Can you provide examples of how he is more for capitalism then?

Do you really think that he is more socialist? O_O

If so, you're the one that needs to prove examples since it's common knowledge that Obama is pretty status quo.

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#13  Edited By BossPerson
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he's an communist.

an fucking communist

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@Aljosa23 said:

Only people who say Obama is a socialist are ones who do not know what that word means.

mhm, those same people throw around communist and fascist like candy on halloween

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#15 dave123321
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The ignorant seem to the ones saying that

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#16 jasean79
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@GreySeal9 said:

@jasean79 said:

@samanthademeste: Can you provide examples of how he is more for capitalism then?

Do you really think that he is more socialist? O_O

If so, you're the one that needs to prove examples since it's common knowledge that Obama is pretty status quo.

Funny, my question wasn't directed towards you, but thanks for playing!

I'm still awaiting samantha's response..

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#17 WolfgarTheQuiet
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Terrorist

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#18  Edited By GreySeal9
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@jasean79 said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@jasean79 said:

@samanthademeste: Can you provide examples of how he is more for capitalism then?

Do you really think that he is more socialist? O_O

If so, you're the one that needs to prove examples since it's common knowledge that Obama is pretty status quo.

Funny, my question wasn't directed towards you, but thanks for playing!

I'm still awaiting samantha's response..

This is a public forum. If you don't want other people to respond to your posts, ask your question in a PM.

Funny that you avoid the question tho.

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I don't like him therefore he's a socialist.

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#20 Barbariser
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Because he was never in a good political position to implement all of his policies, and even if he was, his viewpoints are more moderate than socialist. Also most of the actions in the OP are not really socialist anyway.

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#21 Jag85
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Obama isn't anymore socialist than the UK... We've had the NHS healthcare system (which is way more socialist than Obamacare) for decades, ever since the end of World War II. But now, because of the recession, our current Conservative government has been going in the opposite direction, in an attempt to reduce and eventually eliminate the NHS system.

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#22 Master_Live
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@Jag85 said:

Obama isn't anymore socialist than the UK... We've had the NHS healthcare system (which is way more socialist than Obamacare) for decades, ever since the end of World War II. But now, because of the recession, our current Conservative government has been going in the opposite direction, in an attempt to reduce and eventually eliminate the NHS system.

Do you support the privatization of the NHS?

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#23 AmazonTreeBoa
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@samanthademeste said:

@jasean79:

-making compromises with the Tea Party movement

-cooperating with banks, companies, factories and other financial institutions

-cooperating with rich people

-Making compromises with Republicans and Libertarians

@Master_Live:

That was a joke I hope.

I sure hope you are joking/trolling with all this ignorance you are posting. That or you literally just crawled out from under a rock and are completely clueless to reality.

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#24 Jag85
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@Master_Live said:

@Jag85 said:

Obama isn't anymore socialist than the UK... We've had the NHS healthcare system (which is way more socialist than Obamacare) for decades, ever since the end of World War II. But now, because of the recession, our current Conservative government has been going in the opposite direction, in an attempt to reduce and eventually eliminate the NHS system.

Do you support the privatization of the NHS?

No, I don't support privatization. The NHS system has benefited the working classes greatly over the last half-century, so I'd hate to see it go.

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#25 YearoftheSnake5
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Obama's a communist, socialist fascist! Worse yet, he's an illegal alien put in place by the LIBERALS and their conspiracy to overthrow capitalism! He's like a Snickers - a bunch of shit thrown together, all coated in creamy chocolate.

/sarcasm

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#26 Necroplazma
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No. But I wish he was.

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#27 TruthTellers
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I don't care to get technical, but Obama is clearly not a capitalist and clearly does not believe in the Bill of Rights, which was a racist document written by evil, slave owning white men and should not be the law of the land in any way. Obama should veto the Bill of Rights and the entire Constitution and implement a new constitution that's much more fair that doesn't just represent America, but the entire world so that no one is excluded and so that they can mutually pledge their lives, fortunes, and honor not to each other, but to Obama.