If an atheist has to go to court, do they make him swear on the Bible?

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#1 hell_blazer899
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whatyya think ma pees.
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#2 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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My guess is that they swear on a replica of their god, vast empty nothingness.
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#3 LikeHaterade
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Well, the government's foundations were build off faith in God so I would assume so. :)
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#4 -starman-
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whatyya think ma pees.hell_blazer899

first, what a strange dichotemy between your Thread Title and your first post...

intelligent question --> virtually unintelligible post.

Anyway, here's the answer... LINK

For those that don't want to click the link, here's an exerpt:

"An atheist who is open about his world views as regards faith or religion would normally make an affirmation, which would have the same force in law as an oath. If an atheist chose to take an oath, without revealing his or her beliefs, then the oath would be binding in law."

Anyone can choose to take the oath, not just atheists.

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[QUOTE="hell_blazer899"]whatyya think ma pees.-starman-

first, what a strange dichotemy between your Thread Title and your first post...

intelligent question --> virtually unintelligible post.

Anyway, here's the answer... LINK

For those that don't want to click the link, here's an exerpt:

"An atheist who is open about his world views as regards faith or religion would normally make an affirmation, which would have the same force in law as an oath. If an atheist chose to take an oath, without revealing his or her beliefs, then the oath would be binding in law."

Anyone can choose to take the oath, not just atheists.

hows that unintelligent? I'm assuming you dont like how 'us' playas talk. learn to embrace, son.

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#6 metroidfood
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I believe it's possible to be sworn in without a Bible.
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#7 luke1889
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Having sat in on many a court case, the short answer is no.

If you're religious, you say: "I swear upon the almight God that what I say shall be be truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth."

Conversely, if you're not religious, you say: "I swear that what I say shall be be truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth."

Simple really.

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#8 -TheSecondSign-
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I don't know.
Maybe it isn't considered a direct swear to the Lord in such cases, and merely a promise to tell the truth an authority figure.

It's really meant to represent that you're under oath in court, isn't it?

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#9 -starman-
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hell_blazer899

hows that unintelligent? I'm assuming you dont like how 'us' playas talk. learn to embrace, son.

haha, is that what that was?

i didn't realize "playas" posted on OT. is this where you do your "gang bangin'?"

i think my original reply still applies.

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#10 clembo1990
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Nobody believes in God in the UK, but we still do it.
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first, what a strange dichotemy between your Thread Title and your first post...

-starman-
'tis a juxtaposition, not a dichotemy! :x
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Nobody believes in God in the UK, but we still do it.clembo1990
A slight exaggeration, perhaps?
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#13 domatron23
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I imagine they would just substitute the Bible with a copy of the Origin of Species.
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To me dichotemy always sounded like a Pokemon :P

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[QUOTE="hell_blazer899"]

-starman-

hows that unintelligent? I'm assuming you dont like how 'us' playas talk. learn to embrace, son.

haha, is that what that was?

i didn't realize "playas" posted on OT. is this where you do your "gang bangin'?"

i think my original reply still applies.

OMG he was just saying what do you think my people, i mean really come did you really not know what that meant, quit tyring to be an ***.
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[QUOTE="clembo1990"]Nobody believes in God in the UK, but we still do it.Funky_Llama
A slight exaggeration, perhaps?

No. Not really. Nobody goes to Church hence no belief in God.

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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Nobody believes in God in the UK, but we still do it.clembo1990

A slight exaggeration, perhaps?

No. Not really. Nobody goes to Church hence no belief in God.

Church is not a requirement for belief in God. Besides, I'm sure some people go.

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#19 hell_blazer899
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[QUOTE="hell_blazer899"]

-starman-

hows that unintelligent? I'm assuming you dont like how 'us' playas talk. learn to embrace, son.

haha, is that what that was?

i didn't realize "playas" posted on OT. is this where you do your "gang bangin'?"

i think my original reply still applies.

i love to. but since the chances of u showin up is slim to none, my opportunity is short lived, no?

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#20 metroidfood
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I imagine they would just substitute the Bible with a copy of the Origin of Species.domatron23

I'd prefer a nice thick book of Calvin and Hobbes. :P

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[QUOTE="clembo1990"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Nobody believes in God in the UK, but we still do it.metroidfood

A slight exaggeration, perhaps?

No. Not really. Nobody goes to Church hence no belief in God.

Church is not a requirement for belief in God. Besides, I'm sure some people go.

If you believe God is the creator you go to Church, otherwiseyou have a screw loose or you are a hypocrite.

"Nobody" in colloqial English means hardly anyone notable.

Ask someone in England what they feel about about 50% of Americans are Christians, they usually say "that's unnerving" or "bloody hell buy a nuclear fallout shelter!" thank god I live in a Christian fearing nation not a God fearing nation.

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#22 -starman-
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[QUOTE="-starman-"]

first, what a strange dichotemy between your Thread Title and your first post...

Funky_Llama

'tis a juxtaposition, not a dichotemy! :x

BLAST! You can't see it, but I'm totally shaking my fist at you right now. :)

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Well, the government's foundations were build off faith in God so I would assume so. :)LikeHaterade


No they weren't.
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#24 -starman-
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[QUOTE="-starman-"][QUOTE="hell_blazer899"]

Dub_c6969

hows that unintelligent? I'm assuming you dont like how 'us' playas talk. learn to embrace, son.

haha, is that what that was?

i didn't realize "playas" posted on OT. is this where you do your "gang bangin'?"

i think my original reply still applies.

OMG he was just saying what do you think my people, i mean really come did you really not know what that meant, quit tyring to be an ***.

i'm not really trying to be an ***. I honestly did not know what he meant until I re-read it a few times. All I'm saying is that I found it funny that he posted in perfect English, and then in street slang.

And then in my reply I was merely commenting on how funny trying to sound tough on a video game forum is. I mean, this isn't a room in an online SOCOM game. Seems out of place, is all.

No need to get snarky.

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[QUOTE="clembo1990"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Nobody believes in God in the UK, but we still do it.metroidfood

A slight exaggeration, perhaps?

No. Not really. Nobody goes to Church hence no belief in God.

Church is not a requirement for belief in God. Besides, I'm sure some people go.

Nope. All those people in churches are actually cardboard cut-outs.
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]Well, the government's foundations were build off faith in God so I would assume so. :)Teh_Solid_Snack


No they weren't.

USA: believe what you want, but God was the only choice back then :P

Britain: After Civil War the puritans (damn them! lul) ie. Cromwell wanted things like theater to be outlawed etc.

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[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="-starman-"][QUOTE="hell_blazer899"]

-starman-

hows that unintelligent? I'm assuming you dont like how 'us' playas talk. learn to embrace, son.

haha, is that what that was?

i didn't realize "playas" posted on OT. is this where you do your "gang bangin'?"

i think my original reply still applies.

OMG he was just saying what do you think my people, i mean really come did you really not know what that meant, quit tyring to be an ***.

i'm not really trying to be an ***. I honestly did not know what he meant until I re-read it a few times. All I'm saying is that I found it funny that he posted in perfect English, and then in street slang.

And then in my reply I was merely commenting on how funny trying to sound tough on a video game forum is. I mean, this isn't a room in an online SOCOM game. Seems out of place, is all.

No need to get snarky.

Ok my bad, im just having a bad day. My bad for getting snarky.
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What about the seperation of church and state? :?

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I wonder if you'd be allowed to swear on the hitchikers guide to the galaxy? :P
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In such case you swear on the National Bank.

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#31 Immortalica
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If I had to swear, I'd pick the Satanic Bible. Just cause.
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#32 darkmoney52
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As an atheist I wouldn't really care either way. One of the benefits of my belief is that I do not worry about being punished for blasphemy by praising someone else's God.
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#33 d51man
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No, they make him swear on his mother's grave.
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They have to swear on science.
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[QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Nobody believes in God in the UK, but we still do it.clembo1990

A slight exaggeration, perhaps?

No. Not really. Nobody goes to Church hence no belief in God.

Church is not a requirement for belief in God. Besides, I'm sure some people go.

If you believe God is the creator you go to Church, otherwiseyou have a screw loose or you are a hypocrite.

"Nobody" in colloqial English means hardly anyone notable.

Ask someone in England what they feel about about 50% of Americans are Christians, they usually say "that's unnerving" or "bloody hell buy a nuclear fallout shelter!" thank god I live in a Christian fearing nation not a God fearing nation.

Believing in god does NOT mean you have to go to church, that's rediculous. Where in the bible does it say you have to go to church and hear one person's most likely biased interpretation of the bible, or else you are not allowed to believe in god?

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Well, I know for a fact that Anabaptists don't. I'm not sure for any other cultures.
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#37 Manly-manly-man
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Oh yeah, and over 50% of people living in Britain are not athiest or agnostic, and most of those will be Christian.
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[QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Nobody believes in God in the UK, but we still do it.clembo1990

A slight exaggeration, perhaps?

No. Not really. Nobody goes to Church hence no belief in God.

Church is not a requirement for belief in God. Besides, I'm sure some people go.

If you believe God is the creator you go to Church, otherwiseyou have a screw loose or you are a hypocrite.

"Nobody" in colloqial English means hardly anyone notable.

Ask someone in England what they feel about about 50% of Americans are Christians, they usually say "that's unnerving" or "bloody hell buy a nuclear fallout shelter!" thank god I live in a Christian fearing nation not a God fearing nation.

Thats not true. God is abstract, and not always connected to the church. The idea of God existed before churches were made

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#39 Ghost_702
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I don't think they care if they swear to god because they're swearing to nothing.