I Think Tipping is Stupid

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#1 Addict187
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I don't believe in tipping people in restaurants. They get a wage. I don't tip my bus driver or my postman. Why should I tip a waitress? Compulsory tipping is this ridiculous habit that is spreading from America around the world. If you want to add a 10% 'service charge' then simply make the food 10% more expensive. Why not add a 5% 'electricity charge' and a 0.5% 'washing-up liquid charge'? These charges particularly annoy me because they are dishonest. The $10 price you see is actually $11.50. It's false advertising. If the waitress does an exceptional job (is friendly to your kids, makes a real effort to help you with your Vegan diet etc.) then give her some money in cash at the end of the meal. The idea that they are not paid enough so we, and not the restaurant owners, should give them more is absolutely absurd. I am skeptical that they ever actually receive any of the 'service charge' anyway. Tipping cultures are horrible. I hate it when I visit America and I have to tip everyone from the person who drives me to the hotel to the elevator guy. It's f-ing stupid.
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#2 TrainerCeleste
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They get a lower wage here because they depend on tips. One that is even harder to sustain life on. And people like you they really can care less for so you'll get shi*ty service that way. But I do agree they should be paid more, but because of tips they aren't

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#3 Bucked20
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Stop being cheap and tip
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#4 Travo_basic
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Didn't we just have this topic recently.
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#5 megagene
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Not this $hit again...
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#6 Yusuke420
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Jeez just tip, 10% of your meal must be like 5 dollars max because you're too cheap to eat at any high dollar resterant. So pony up the cash or don't eat at a sit down resterant or order pizza. You should want to help people out when they have to not only deal with a crappy wage, but obnoxious customers.

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#7 Legendaryscmt
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Then stop eating out.

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#8 Travo_basic
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Not this $hit again...megagene
See, I knew it!
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#10 hippiesanta
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yup ... tipping are stupid..... my worst case scenario is in Egypt .... even KFC outlet demand tipping
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#11 Dark__Link
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Jesus f*cking Christ, enough with these. The current system lets you retain choice. If you incorporated tips into the price, now your food is more expensive and you can't regulate the quality of your service. By withholding tip, you effectively tell the waiter, "you f*cking suck at your job." He'll do better next time, and earn his tip. If tipping was abolished, he does only enough to keep his job, and you have to pay more anyway.
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#12 JML897
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They get a wage.Addict187
Worst ever argument against tipping
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#13 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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Didn't we just have this topic recently.Travo_basic
Everything looks alike after awhile...but I think you're right.
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#14 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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Minimum Cash wage (federal) for tipped employees is $2.13 per hour. Thats why you tip.

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#15 Laihendi
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I think it's stupid to make tipping optional but then expect everyone to do it anyways. It would make more sense to just raise the price of the food by 10-15% and just give that extra money to the waiters. It is irrational to give away money just because someone wants you to. So yeah I agree with you OP.
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#16 Abbeten
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someone just watched reservoir dogs

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#17 Rich3232
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Stop being cheap and tip Bucked20
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#18 DanteSuikoden
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I think it's stupid that companies are allowed to get away with paying below minimum wage due to a choice people made to personally give extra money the boss wasn't willing to give.

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#19 michaelP4
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It's a customary practice. If you don't want to do it, then don't do it. I'd suggest being a waiter though to see things from their perspective.
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#20 michaelP4
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"]It would make more sense to just raise the price of the food by 10-15% and just give that extra money to the waiters. So yeah I agree with you OP.

And what guarantee is there to make sure businesses do that? Why not keep things simple and just raise their wages?
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#21 MonsieurX
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They should ask more from their boss,not us.
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#22 JigglyWiggly_
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i hate tipping too much extra work ofc i will always and not the calculation, that takes less than a second lol
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#23 Jaysonguy
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I hate it when I visit America Addict187

Found your problem here.

Not too sure where you're from but we do things right here.

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#24 Addict187
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It's a customary practice. If you don't want to do it, then don't do it. I'd suggest being a waiter though to see things from their perspective.michaelP4
If I was a waiter I would gladly accept tips. ( wy would someone not) But why would someone just hand money over to someone doing there job they all ready getiing payed to do. So the owner can can pay them nothing and live the good life. I do not understand howe gallabel alot of you are to the game of tipping'
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#25 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="Addict187"]I hate it when I visit America Jaysonguy

Found your problem here.

Not too sure where you're from but we do things right here.

Nope. Guess that's why a good part of the world hates America
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#27 Addict187
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[QUOTE="Addict187"][QUOTE="michaelP4"]It's a customary practice. If you don't want to do it, then don't do it. I'd suggest being a waiter though to see things from their perspective.thegerg
If I was a waiter I would gladly accept tips. ( wy would someone not) But why would someone just hand money over to someone doing there job they all ready getiing paind to do. So the owner can can pay them nothing and live the good life. I do not understand howe gallabel alot of you are to the game of tipping'

Hire an English tutor.

Spelling Nazi look out
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#28 Cloud_Insurance
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if covering the tip is a cause of worry for you then you should probably stay home and pound sand.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&v=Z-qV9wVGb38

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#30 Dark__Link
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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="Addict187"] If I was a waiter I would gladly accept tips. ( wy would someone not) But why would someone just hand money over to someone doing there job they all ready getiing paind to do. So the owner can can pay them nothing and live the good life. I do not understand howe gallabel alot of you are to the game of tipping'Addict187
Hire an English tutor.

Spelling Nazi look out

Considering you actually tried to pass off "howe gallabel" as words, I'd say he has a point.

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#31 JML897
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[QUOTE="Addict187"][QUOTE="thegerg"] Hire an English tutor.Dark__Link

Spelling Nazi look out

Considering you actually tried to pass off "howe gallabel" as words, I'd say he has a point.

:lol:
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#32 Zeviander
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Didn't we just have this topic recently.Travo_basic
This is one of those OT topics that runs on rotation.
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#33 chrisrooR
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OP, you're cheap. It's entirely optional, but many people working in tippable conditions who go to extra effort to maintain a professional quality rely on these tips to keep the job somewhat economically viable. If they don't deserve the tip, tip very little or not at all. But for people who are going out of their way to help you, give them a little extra.
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#34 megagene
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[QUOTE="Travo_basic"]Didn't we just have this topic recently.Zeviander
This is one of those OT topics that runs on rotation.

Circumcision is the other big one.
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#35 jeremiah06
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Then stop eating out.

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I never tip... deal with it...
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#36 mindstorm
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Get a job as a waiter and let's see if you think the same.
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#37 themajormayor
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I think so too
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#38 coolbeans90
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OP is a poor

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#39 Addict187
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OP, you're cheap. It's entirely optional, but many people working in tippable conditions who go to extra effort to maintain a professional quality rely on these tips to keep the job somewhat economically viable. If they don't deserve the tip, tip very little or not at all. But for people who are going out of their way to help you, give them a little extra. chrisrooR
Why can they not be professional quality wothout extorting extra money out of costemers
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#40 Addict187
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Get a job as a waiter and let's see if you think the same.mindstorm
I have worked as a waiter made $400 a night sometimes. I am not complaing but i do not understand howe i made more then most people do a day( doing unskilled labour)
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#41 Zeviander
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Circumcision is the other big one. megagene
"The" other big one? - abortion - gay marriage - gun control - death penalty - legalize marijuana/war on drugs There are a couple others that evade me right now.
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#42 WiiCubeM1
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Be a dick all you want, you're not convincing anyone else to join you.

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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]OP, you're cheap. It's entirely optional, but many people working in tippable conditions who go to extra effort to maintain a professional quality rely on these tips to keep the job somewhat economically viable. If they don't deserve the tip, tip very little or not at all. But for people who are going out of their way to help you, give them a little extra. Addict187
Why can they not be professional quality wothout extorting extra money out of costemers

It's not extortion. Clearly you've never held one of these jobs before. Often they're long hours on your feet, mentally and physically taxing jobs. And there's no requirement to go the extra way and make a conversation, smile while doing it and be courteous. It's not exactly part of the job description. I feel that there are some levels of service that deserve a little more money from me.
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#44 slipknot0129
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I only tip to people I know.

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#45 jim_shorts
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[QUOTE="megagene"]Circumcision is the other big one. Zeviander
"The" other big one? - abortion - gay marriage - gun control - death penalty - legalize marijuana/war on drugs There are a couple others that evade me right now.

Don't forget the "A Muslim person did a bad thing" threads.
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#48 jim_shorts
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None of you countered OP's argument of "why dont we tip bus drivers or casino dealers"JustSignedUp
Because they make more than three dollars an hour.