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#1 Roxas12934
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anything about girls.

uumm well short sorty short i was talking to this girl i really like and im the kinda guy that treats a girl like she is a princess everyday. I seriously cannot be mean to a girl at all. Pretty or not pretty i cannot do it. But anyways i was kinda hinting that i like her and then i asked her out and she said no because i was too nice. She likes a guy who is sorta mean and not super nice. I dont understand why woman/girls wanted to be treated bad sometimes. Do woman/girls not like the nice guys anymore?

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#2 Eastdabest
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Lol its true. Same thing happens to me... then Its those same girls who wind up crying and complaining about how their bf just cheated on them >.>
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#3 Roxas12934
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Lol its true. Same thing happens to me... then Its those same girls who wind up crying and complaining about how their bf just cheated on them >.>Eastdabest
Exatly. i really dont understand it.

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#4 freham2001
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Yea. I dont get it either, but trust me there are still plenty of girls out there that like nice guys. Have you seen the movie Transformers?
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#5 mindstorm
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anything about girls.

uumm well short sorty short i was talking to this girl i really like and im the kinda guy that treats a girl like she is a princess everyday. I seriously cannot be mean to a girl at all. Pretty or not pretty i cannot do it. But anyways i was kinda hinting that i like her and then i asked her out and she said no because i was too nice. She likes a guy who is sorta mean and not super nice. I dont understand why woman/girls wanted to be treated bad sometimes. Do woman/girls not like the nice guys anymore?

Roxas12934
What I've personally found is that females do generally like nice but generally prefer those who are confident and strong minded (at least the ones I know personally...). Now the fun thing is trying to be all of the above. :P
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#6 Sajedene
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We're not asking you to be mean either. But when you give a girl EVERYTHING when shes not your girlfriend... then what's the point? Why get into a relationship when you're already providing everything a boyfriend should provide without being one? Its like... back off a little.
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#7 Eastdabest
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Yea. I dont get it either, but trust me there are still plenty of girls out there that like nice guys. Have you seen the movie Transformers?freham2001
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#8 AAllxxjjnn
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Stop being a doormat. That's boring.
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#9 Avistann
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My ex-girlfriend broke up for me because I was too nice. She wanted me to treat her like crap. If that is what she wanted, she could have just told me instead of break up with me :P. Oh well, I found someone else better who enjoys my kindness.
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#10 Luncbox1
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Many girls out there like guys just like you. Shoot for them and you'll be happy :)
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#11 Roxas12934
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We're not asking you to be mean either. But when you give a girl EVERYTHING when shes not your girlfriend... then what's the point? Why get into a relationship when you're already providing everything a boyfriend should provide without being one? Its like... back off a little. Sajedene
I meant to say i treat a girl like that when i date them. Im always nice to girls. I dont give a girl everything if im not dating them lol. Im still very nice and polite though.

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#12 Sajedene
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What I've come to see in OT is that your definition of "nice" = give her what she wants, when she wants it. Worship the ground she walks on. Do not deny her anything. THAT is not nice. That is a doormat. We don't want that. We want to be EQUAL in the relationship. If you don't like something. Say something. Get mad at us for the stupid things we do. That is what we want. We don't want jerks... but we don't want a lapdog either. Well... most of us anyway.
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#13 Eastdabest
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We're not asking you to be mean either. But when you give a girl EVERYTHING when shes not your girlfriend... then what's the point? Why get into a relationship when you're already providing everything a boyfriend should provide without being one? Its like... back off a little. Sajedene
I dont think thats how he meant it, unless he covered her with gifts and letters. All he is doing is treating her like a gentleman should and she rejects him because he's too nice?
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#14 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Yeah I get that too ^^

Women are utterly alien to me, thier train of thought is a far cry from the rational methodic mindset I have.

Ofcourse Men is a mystery aswell :s

Humans usually think with thier emotions, which I can not decipher, they scare me if I have to be honest...andit seems most people are nervous around me aswell... Guess I was not made to be part of human society in the same way as most other people.

I DO have alot of female friends, and it can become really irritating that they really like me, but never thinks of me in any other way then the nice friend who picks up the pieces of thier life, fixes it together and scares the living daylight out of thier ex'es...

Guess Im a tool huh?

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#15 gotdangit
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Treat her like crap see what happens.

Or maybe just ignore her for a little bit, see what she says, just don't be so nice, be nice but not soo nice. (Don't talk to her until she talks to you, not ignore.)

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]We're not asking you to be mean either. But when you give a girl EVERYTHING when shes not your girlfriend... then what's the point? Why get into a relationship when you're already providing everything a boyfriend should provide without being one? Its like... back off a little. Eastdabest
I dont think thats how he meant it, unless he covered her with gifts and letters. All he is doing is treating her like a gentleman should and she rejects him because he's too nice?

Well... lets get some details here on what he does besides being "nice and polite". And what came after the "you're too nice" part. Might have just been a scapegoat excuse for "you're not my type".
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#17 Avistann
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What I've come to see in OT is that your definition of "nice" = give her what she wants, when she wants it. Worship the ground she walks on. Do not deny her anything. THAT is not nice. That is a doormat. We don't want that. We want to be EQUAL in the relationship. If you don't like something. Say something. Get mad at us for the stupid things we do. That is what we want. We don't want jerks... but we don't want a lapdog either. Well... most of us anyway. Sajedene
The thing is with my ex, she really wanted me to treat her like total crap, like she was worthless.
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What I've come to see in OT is that your definition of "nice" = give her what she wants, when she wants it. Worship the ground she walks on. Do not deny her anything. THAT is not nice. That is a doormat. We don't want that. We want to be EQUAL in the relationship. If you don't like something. Say something. Get mad at us for the stupid things we do. That is what we want. We don't want jerks... but we don't want a lapdog either. Well... most of us anyway. Sajedene
I don't know, if they were a really soft, fuzzy doormat i might take them.
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What I've come to see in OT is that your definition of "nice" = give her what she wants, when she wants it. Worship the ground she walks on. Do not deny her anything. THAT is not nice. That is a doormat. We don't want that. We want to be EQUAL in the relationship. If you don't like something. Say something. Get mad at us for the stupid things we do. That is what we want. We don't want jerks... but we don't want a lapdog either. Well... most of us anyway. Sajedene
Well the problem with this was i was too "nice" i mean like you know not being rude or impolite. I was being a gentlemen.

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#20 Eastdabest
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[QUOTE="Eastdabest"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]We're not asking you to be mean either. But when you give a girl EVERYTHING when shes not your girlfriend... then what's the point? Why get into a relationship when you're already providing everything a boyfriend should provide without being one? Its like... back off a little. Sajedene
I dont think thats how he meant it, unless he covered her with gifts and letters. All he is doing is treating her like a gentleman should and she rejects him because he's too nice?

Well... lets get some details here on what he does besides being "nice and polite". And what came after the "you're too nice" part. Might have just been a scapegoat excuse for "you're not my type".

Ill have to agree with you on that.
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]What I've come to see in OT is that your definition of "nice" = give her what she wants, when she wants it. Worship the ground she walks on. Do not deny her anything. THAT is not nice. That is a doormat. We don't want that. We want to be EQUAL in the relationship. If you don't like something. Say something. Get mad at us for the stupid things we do. That is what we want. We don't want jerks... but we don't want a lapdog either. Well... most of us anyway. Roxas12934

Well the problem with this was i was too "nice" i mean like you know not being rude or impolite. I was being a gentlemen.

So where does this "I treat them like a princess everyday" come from?
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[QUOTE="Roxas12934"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]What I've come to see in OT is that your definition of "nice" = give her what she wants, when she wants it. Worship the ground she walks on. Do not deny her anything. THAT is not nice. That is a doormat. We don't want that. We want to be EQUAL in the relationship. If you don't like something. Say something. Get mad at us for the stupid things we do. That is what we want. We don't want jerks... but we don't want a lapdog either. Well... most of us anyway. Sajedene

Well the problem with this was i was too "nice" i mean like you know not being rude or impolite. I was being a gentlemen.

So where does this "I treat them like a princess everyday" come from?

Well i mean like i dont just ignore them like everyone i see at my school does. I treat her like a girl should be treated. Mabye i guess i shoud settle down on being super nice.

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Don't sweat it, that's high school. Those girls still haven't learned that the jerks are jerks and they really want a nice guy.

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#25 Eastdabest
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[QUOTE="Roxas12934"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Roxas12934"] Well the problem with this was i was too "nice" i mean like you know not being rude or impolite. I was being a gentlemen.

So where does this "I treat them like a princess everyday" come from?

Well i mean like i dont just ignore them like everyone i see at my school does. I treat her like a girl should be treated. Mabye i guess i shoud settle down on being super nice.

Ive always been a nice guy to girls and from first hand experience, nice guys ALWAYS finish last =\
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#26 Roxas12934
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Don't sweat it, that's high school. Those girls still haven't learned that the jerks are jerks and they really want a nice guy.

foxhound_fox

so i guess i should just wait until they realize these things?

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#27 quadraleap
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Allot of people secretly hate themselves and feel undeserving or incompetent when faced with kindness or something they are incapable of themselves. Some carry on with the issues they face in their family dynamics...towards the Primary Objects (parents). People often seek the "bad girl" or "bad boy" to reenact past issues and to satisfy somewhat of a machoistic need to be punished or used. Dont take being too nice as a bad thing, just the dynamics/chemistry is not right with that girl. There are plenty of other fish in the sea, keep fish'n till you find the right one.
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#28 iam2green
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i know what u mean. a lot of girls tell me i'm to nice also. i don't get them sometimes. i hear a lot of times girls crying over how their boyfriend cheated on them. how she gets treated like crap. they sometimes even ask to meet a nice guy but then break up then say ur to nice.
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#29 WhiteSnake5000
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Should have suckered punch her in the face. Then she would have no choice but to fall in love with you. Girls get turned on by violence.
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#30 swatsickle
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She said you're too nice. You make it too easy for her to get something. When you are 'too nice,' you really aren't providing her any challenge. You're basically 'easy mode,' and she wants to play 'normal mode' and maybe even 'hard mode' unless 'hard mode' is 'too mean.' You treat her like a princess because you don't want to lose her, but really, it turns her off. Become 'normal mode,' provide a little more 'unpredictibility,' a little more 'excitement,' a little more 'challenge,' a little more 'fun.' You see, girls don't want to be a 'princess,' they want to 'fight' a little bit too.
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She said you're too nice. You make it too easy for her to get something. When you are 'too nice,' you really aren't providing her any challenge. You're basically 'easy mode,' and she wants to play 'normal mode' and maybe even 'hard mode' unless 'hard mode' is 'too mean.' You treat her like a princess because you don't want to lose her, but really, it turns her off. Become 'normal mode,' provide a little more 'unpredictibility,' a little more 'excitement,' a little more 'challenge,' a little more 'fun.' You see, girls don't want to be a 'princess,' they want to 'fight' a little bit too.swatsickle

:lol: Oh man, i love gaming analogies. Haha.

Basically, turn your AI up, fool! :x

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[QUOTE="swatsickle"]She said you're too nice. You make it too easy for her to get something. When you are 'too nice,' you really aren't providing her any challenge. You're basically 'easy mode,' and she wants to play 'normal mode' and maybe even 'hard mode' unless 'hard mode' is 'too mean.' You treat her like a princess because you don't want to lose her, but really, it turns her off. Become 'normal mode,' provide a little more 'unpredictibility,' a little more 'excitement,' a little more 'challenge,' a little more 'fun.' You see, girls don't want to be a 'princess,' they want to 'fight' a little bit too.

That is awesome!
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#33 senses_blank
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Well i really dont have an answer to that. I know what you mean and yeah it does seem like girls actully like being treated bad. The only thing i can figure is that girls want what they cant have. Well that could best be explained that girls like to feel like they have to work for your affection instead of you just starting out with it.

Another assumption is that girls want to feel like they have space. They dont want a guy who is always on their back asking how they are and always trying to make them happy. Sometimes you just need to blow a girl off. Like if she texts you dont text back, if she calls you dont answer. I cant tell you why this helps but it kind of seems to. Idk im not the best with girls consideing ive only had one for the past 6 months.

You have to be nice but you want to the girl to want to talk to you. And to accomplish this....you have to be a little mean.

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#34 nicknees93
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Dude, I used to make the same mistake of being really nice to a girl. Honestly, they see you as being a p****. When they are little they learn that when a boy is mean to them they really actually like them. Although it seems juvenile, the rule applies throughout life. Nice guys finish last bro.
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#35 soulless4now
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You need to be more rebellious. After that you are an epic win with teh ladies.

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perhaps you should switch to boys.

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#37 Ceraby
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Don't sweat it, that's high school. Those girls still haven't learned that the jerks are jerks and they really want a nice guy.

Roxas12934

so i guess i should just wait until they realize these things?

Don't wait. Find an older, more mature girl who already knows those things and will appreciate you for your nice-ing ways. :lol:

Or you could always follow modestkruat's advice and switch to boys...

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#38 dramaybaz
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Learn from Stewie!

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#39 clyde46
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I fall into that trap all the time. I always come across as too nice, I dont know how to be not so nice without being mean if that makes any sense.

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#40 markop2003
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If you give her everything she want's then she want apreciate you and in the end you'll fall into the friend zone at best
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#41 Dante2710
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you are doing it all wrong