@kadin_kai said:
@Maxpowers_32: Which part of the film did you find offensive? What part did you think annoyed fans and what sort of political agenda do you think they were pushing for?
What I mainly found offensive was killing John Connor in the beginning. The whole point of the 1st 2 movies was protecting him and he was also instrumental in the more recent ones. I really enjoyed the Terminator TV show and remember them talking about "what would future John would do". So it almost made it feel like the most of the franchise had been for nothing since they've been protecting him for all the movies and then they kill him with no fanfare or anything. That really hurt. Who would greenlight that idea? I'm sure others have pointed this out, but if they stopped Skynet where did this Terminator that killed John Connor come from? In T2 it was clear they only sent back 1 Terminator and 1 protector.
Then to make matters worse they basically replaced him with some Mexican girl who I found really annoying. Since they did so much in Mexico they put a lot of movie in Spanish with English subtitles, which also got really old really fast.
What I think annoyed fans was that instead of Arnold being this awesome Terminator like in the 1st 2 movies he had this weird relationship with some woman and her kid and was designing drapes! I know he supposed to be a different Terminator, but if you watch the way the Terminator is portrayed in the 1st 2 films can you picture him designing drapes if he's not going to be a killing machine? Seems like they took the robot chicken sketch with Arnold being an adopted dad to John and put it in the movie.
This is not a political forum so I don't want to do too much on the political side, but they seemed to be attacking the very notion of motherhood (womb conversation), borders (they smuggled the Mexican John Connor replacement across the border in incredibly boring scenes), and men (basically an all female cast). If they were going to have a female protector character, why not have one like the one from the TV (I think Cameron was her name) or T3? The other movies all had a balance, this one was like the all female ghostbusters and I wasn't expecting it.
On top of all that, I couldn't see anything in the helicopter/water scenes because it was so dark. I have an 82" QLED TV and rented the movie in 4k and it was still difficult to make out what was happening.
The abilities of the new Terminator were cool, but the shapeshifting were underutalized. I also like the idea of an augmented person (I'm a huge Deus Ex fan), but it seemed weird to send someone back that could pass out without getting drugs. There were a few interesting fight scenes, but the acting was bad and the plot was just horrible. How could anyone read the script or watch the movie and think a Terminator fan or the general public would like it?
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