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zionist israel gets a free pass on everything and if you question them you are called anti semitic and hateful
Well you are anti-semitic, and just racist in general, and hateful. That's your shtick. You're OT's resident KKK member basically. Man up and embrace it.
He's all of those because he questioned Israel ? You're being unfair.
True, specially considering a lot of Palestinians are also semitic. He could be anti-zionist but I don't see anything wrong with that, zionism must disappear.
wow, the truly ignorant can type. Im amazed.
Care to elaborate? I hope that you realize that there are anti-zionist jews and israelites and that the semitic ancestry also includes arabs.
bringing up anti Zionist Jews doesn't mean a whole lot, it doesn't tell you much about Zionism , Jews or Israel , in WW2 there were people in Britain who cheered on for the Germans who flattened their country, Im assuming then that the Germans were great friends of the British people? doesn't really work that way. Besides those ultra orthodox types still want the entirety of the land of Israel , with the non Jews leaving or being non citizens at best, they are just waiting for the messiah to arrive.
That you decide to use them as some sort of defense, shows you know nothing about Jews , or about Zionism for that matter. I suggest you do a bit of studying before talking about groups of people you know nothing about, just a bit of advice.
bringing up Arab's semitic ancestry (and they are of course semites) is a dumb play on words that really ignores the origins of the term anti semitism, the term itself was first used (as far as I know) by a 19th Century German publicist by the name of Wilhelm Marr, who used the term to specifically describe hatred of Jews based on their race (their semitism , so to speak). It did not include Arabs or any other semites. The term still has this meaning and if you don't like it , go argue with the dictionary and the corpse of Wilhelm Marr. This shows you don't even know the basic meanings of the term you used.
I'm using the lingusitic/historical origin of the word. If you want to use a specific meaning then go ahead but the way I used it is correct historically and semantically. You can't expect everyone to use your preferred term just because you want it.
Likewise I'm using the zionist term in my own way as a way to describe the current notion that Israel is somehow entitled to the land and that they are a superior race chosen by God. That makes the zionist movement almost a racist movement. Of course at some point it could have meant something different but not from my perspective right now.
Also how come intelligent knowledgeable jews like Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein agree with me? These people have studied and specialized themselves in this conflict more than all the people here put together and they have similar views. Are you going to treat them as ignorant too?
no, youre using the meaning you want to suit yourself, I merely quoted from the dictionary. In fact, here is the definition from the Oxford dictionary
"Hostility to or prejudice against Jews". (and I suggest you go look yourself)
that is the generally accepted meaning of the term , again , if you don't like it, go argue with the dictionary.
again , why hide behined Jews like that? are you unable to either grasp the topic at hand or unable to articulate your ideas? seems to me so , and what I said regarding this "well , if a tiny portion of group A supports group B , then obviously group B is right" . But since youre using this tactic, Im going to do the same.
"A small minority of Americans believe the 9/11 attacks were justified and correct, obviously this means the 9/11 attackers were right and also great friends of the United States"
sounds ridiculous? yeah I thought so , all of a sudden when I flip this dumb tactic on another people it doesn't make much sense
Interesting where you got that from , Ive never heard any Jew consider himself to be racially superior to anyone (and as a Jew,I know a lot more than you about this), and apparently no other people feel entitled to some piece of land in the world....nope the English do not feel entitled to England, and the Chinese don't care about China...
Again , study a bit before you talk.
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