Gun control....seriously?

no the best possible solution is to give everyone guns because then theyll just shoot at bad guys and stuff

what could go wrong?

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="redstorm72"] assualt rifles (even if they are only semi-automatic)Verge_6

Haha, your now the second person to completely ignore the majoirty of my post to instead focus on a small and completely irrelevant semantic error. If it makes you feel better, I meant "assualt weapon" (even though "semi automaitc assualt rifle" is pretty much axactly what an assualt weapon is).

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="redstorm72"] assualt rifles (even if they are only semi-automatic)redstorm72

Haha, your now the second person to completely ignore the majoirty of my post to instead focus on a small and completely irrelevant semantic error. If it makes you feel better, I meant "assualt weapon" (even though "semi automaitc assualt rifle" is pretty much axactly what an assualt weapon is).

Define "assualt weapons" for me.

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] Please stop this, people.Wasdie

Haha, your now the second person to completely ignore the majoirty of my post to instead focus on a small and completely irrelevant semantic error. If it makes you feel better, I meant "assualt weapon" (even though "semi automaitc assualt rifle" is pretty much axactly what an assualt weapon is).

Define "assualt weapons" for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

More gun threads?

Well the good news is guns are not going anywhere anytime soon from the hands of citizens. I think we need to enforce more gun freedom, and proper gun education

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

America needs to change massively about their mentality on guns before gun control or even a ban is possible. It should be a hobbyist thing, this buying guns for your safety illusion need to get adressed.

67gt500

, I meant "assualt weapon" (even though "semi automaitc assualt rifle" is pretty much axactly what an assualt weapon is)redstorm72

However, I'm sure your "assault weapon" definition would define the former as an evil tool of death and destruction, while the latter is A-OK. This is because it's hilariously dependent on cosmetics, and that's what you're basing your fear on. You're not concerned of the slew of semi-auto hunting weapons that tens of thousands of hunters like your father use because they don't look scary.

I highly advise watching this.

The founding fathers created the 2nd amendment for the event that if another American revolution were to happen. The citizens would be armed and ready.DJ419

No, they didn't. As the "Whiskey Rebellion" of 1791 proves, the Founding Fathers, right from the start, were perfectly willing to violently put down armed insurrection.

lol cowboys :P

[QUOTE="redstorm72"], I meant "assualt weapon" (even though "semi automaitc assualt rifle" is pretty much axactly what an assualt weapon is)Verge_6

However, I'm sure your "assault weapon" definition would define the former as an evil tool of death and destruction, while the latter is A-OK. This is because it's hilariously dependent on cosmetics, and that's what you're basing your fear on. You're not concerned of the slew of semi-auto hunting weapons that tens of thousands of hunters like your father use because they don't look scary.

I highly advise watching this.

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

America needs to change massively about their mentality on guns before gun control or even a ban is possible. It should be a hobbyist thing, this buying guns for your safety illusion need to get adressed.

67gt500

No. Again, see "Whiskey Rebellion" of 1791.

[QUOTE="Slayer_of_Bugs"]Have you read the constitution? 2nd amendment. Fightingfan

Excellent idea. We should get rid of all guns just like we got rid of all drugs. No one does drugs anymore. senses_fail_06

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

no the best possible solution is to give everyone guns because then theyll just shoot at bad guys and stuff

what could go wrong?

blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

no the best possible solution is to give everyone guns because then theyll just shoot at bad guys and stuff

what could go wrong?

Slayer_of_Bugs

[QUOTE="redstorm72"], I meant "assualt weapon" (even though "semi automaitc assualt rifle" is pretty much axactly what an assualt weapon is)Verge_6

However, I'm sure your "assault weapon" definition would define the former as an evil tool of death and destruction, while the latter is A-OK. This is because it's hilariously dependent on cosmetics, and that's what you're basing your fear on. You're not concerned of the slew of semi-auto hunting weapons that tens of thousands of hunters like your father use because they don't look scary.

Umm, ok? I was just using "assualt weapons" (or whatever the f*** you want to call them) as an example of an excessively dangerous weapon that is complete overkill for "protecting" your home and family. I would suggest regulations on any weapon that can gun down a dozen people in seconds. I still don't understand why you have such a stick up your rear about my word usage when it really had nothing to do with what I was saying.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="redstorm72"], I meant "assualt weapon" (even though "semi automaitc assualt rifle" is pretty much axactly what an assualt weapon is)redstorm72

However, I'm sure your "assault weapon" definition would define the former as an evil tool of death and destruction, while the latter is A-OK. This is because it's hilariously dependent on cosmetics, and that's what you're basing your fear on. You're not concerned of the slew of semi-auto hunting weapons that tens of thousands of hunters like your father use because they don't look scary.

Umm, ok? I was just using "assualt weapons" (or whatever the f*** you want to call them) as an example of an excessively dangerous weapon that is complete overkill for "protecting" your home and family. I would suggest regulations on any weapon that can gun down a dozen people in seconds. I still don't understand why you have such a stick up your rear about my word usage when it really had nothing to do with what I was saying.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Yeah because what could go wrong with multiple people firing guns in a dark, smoke filled theater. -Sun_Tzu-

Dumb question. The "fog of war" isn't real.

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]
So you meant an incredibly vague, inconsistent political term (defined as such in said link, which is a huge red-flag in and of itself) that's used to sell regulations. I think you were just as well off using the "completely irrelevant semantic error". A "semi automatic assault rifle" is as much a contradiction as a communist fascist. What's particularly amusing about the term "assault weapon" in the wikilink you posted is the "designed for rapidly firing at human targets from close range," part. My WASR-10/63 was importing for sporting purposes (and is listed as such with the BATFE). It functions exactly as the rifle below it, the VEPR hunting rifle, with hardly any differences in operation and performance.

However, I'm sure your "assault weapon" definition would define the former as an evil tool of death and destruction, while the latter is A-OK. This is because it's hilariously dependent on cosmetics, and that's what you're basing your fear on. You're not concerned of the slew of semi-auto hunting weapons that tens of thousands of hunters like your father use because they don't look scary.

Slayer_of_Bugs

Umm, ok? I was just using "assualt weapons" (or whatever the f*** you want to call them) as an example of an excessively dangerous weapon that is complete overkill for "protecting" your home and family. I would suggest regulations on any weapon that can gun down a dozen people in seconds. I still don't understand why you have such a stick up your rear about my word usage when it really had nothing to do with what I was saying.

What if they are armed with rocket lauchers? Should everyone be allowed to own rocket lauchers?

I have flipped through the last 5 pages of the OT section and have seen every topic but this one. I thought there would definitely be a topic like this since the news of the Chiefs Jovan Belcher's murder-suicide incident.

During the Dallas/Philly game yesterday, an NBC reporter used halftime to pretty much explain how a ban on guns would have prevented this incident, and prevent many murder/homicides to come.

I really don't care either way, but many people's arguments for anti-gun ban was the fact that if Belcher wouldn't have had a gun, he would have stabbed, strangled, hung, ran over with a car etc...I think that's ****.

My take on it is that if there were no guns, Belcher and his girlfriend would still be alive today. Most stabbings, hangings, running over with cars, andchokings take a lot more time, thought and not so easy in a "heat of the moment" episode. With guns, just point and click. It's over. Gun crimes are a lot less intimate. With a knife, you have to get up close and in the persons face. Any time between picking up the knife and walking into the next room to where your victim is can be a deterrence, a redefining moment to where one might cool off or decide maybe homicide is a bad idea.

Bottom line, if there were no guns, you can be sure as **** there would be less homicide and suicides.

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0mega3FattyAcid

Is an assault rifle really overkill for protecting your home if you're under attack by 5 men who are armed with assault rifles themselves? Slayer_of_Bugs

Was wondering how long it would take for the 'House Invasion' post lol.

People will be under the impression that all homes in the u.s. get invaded twice a year.

If you set a gun down on the table and it sits for a thousnad years nothing will happen. Once someone picks it up it's a whole different scenario. The real issue isn't about guns, it's about what others think is best for there fellow human beings and that's a freedom I'm certianly not willing to give up.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] A man in riot gear doesn't simply walk into the movie theater, goes to the front, and fire off a weapon into the air after throwing a smoke canister. Smoke takes awhile to spread. So what is your plan on a situation like this? because if its something I blame, its certainly not guns.Kamekazi_69

I know if I had been in that theater I definately would have been comforted by my wife getting shot by some would-be John Wayne who thinks he's firing at the shooter.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] This was the premier to the new Batman movie. This guy had already been able to walk into the theater inconspicuously because most people were also dressed up in similar attire. As for what my plan would be, there's really not much you can do but take cover, try to get out and hope for the best. There's really not much more that could be done without further escalating the situation. Slayer_of_Bugs

Wouldn't you be happier if he didn't have the guns in the first place?

The second admendment is there to protect ourselves from tyranny......and douchebags.

There will be no ban on guns in America ever. I honestly believe if more "decent" people had guns, and were allowed to protect themselves and others without a penalty, there would be less crazy douchebags running around shooting everyone and everything.

[QUOTE="Slayer_of_Bugs"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Sure in general you could run and hope for the best. Even some testimonies say they thought it was a prank, but the instigation was the moment he fired the gun into the air. I respect your opinion, but I would take my chances with a gun, or someone else with a gun. That "No guns allowed" in the movie theater wasn't enough to stop him. tenaka2

Wouldn't you be happier if he didn't have the guns in the first place?

The second admendment is there to protect ourselves from tyranny......and douchebags.

There will be no ban on guns in America ever. I honestly believe if more "decent" people had guns, and were allowed to protect themselves and others without a penalty, there would be less crazy douchebags running around shooting everyone and everything.

ristactionjakso

I don't. I've seen too many "decent" people with legal guns who don't know the first thing about responsible ownership and use of guns.

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

The second admendment is there to protect ourselves from tyranny......and douchebags.

There will be no ban on guns in America ever. I honestly believe if more "decent" people had guns, and were allowed to protect themselves and others without a penalty, there would be less crazy douchebags running around shooting everyone and everything.

worlock77

I don't. I've seen too many "decent" people with legal guns who don't know the first thing about responsible ownership and use of guns.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

The second admendment is there to protect ourselves from tyranny......and douchebags.

There will be no ban on guns in America ever. I honestly believe if more "decent" people had guns, and were allowed to protect themselves and others without a penalty, there would be less crazy douchebags running around shooting everyone and everything.

Kamekazi_69

I don't. I've seen too many "decent" people with legal guns who don't know the first thing about responsible ownership and use of guns.

As do I, so what is your point? Mine was pretty straighforward.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I don't. I've seen too many "decent" people with legal guns who don't know the first thing about responsible ownership and use of guns.

worlock77

As do I, so what is your point? Mine was pretty straighforward.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

The second admendment is there to protect ourselves from tyranny......and douchebags.

There will be no ban on guns in America ever. I honestly believe if more "decent" people had guns, and were allowed to protect themselves and others without a penalty, there would be less crazy douchebags running around shooting everyone and everything.

Kamekazi_69

I don't. I've seen too many "decent" people with legal guns who don't know the first thing about responsible ownership and use of guns.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I don't. I've seen too many "decent" people with legal guns who don't know the first thing about responsible ownership and use of guns.

Socialist696

[QUOTE="Socialist696"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Well I know men who are responsible gun owners. They are Family men, educated men, never been in any legal trouble, and collect weapons. So whats your point? Kamekazi_69

And where have I done so?

There is no feasible way to remove guns from America. It's too engrained in our culture. The only thing that would come from an attempt would be removing guns from the hands of lawful owners and leaving them with the criminals.

Also, the way to fix gun violence isn't to punish lawful owners.

There is no feasible way to remove guns from America. It's too engrained in our culture. The only thing that would come from an attempt would be removing guns from the hands of lawful owners and leaving them with the criminals.

Also, the way to fix gun violence isn't to punish lawful owners.

airshocker

This

the only people that are punished by strict gun laws are lawful gun owners.