GOP senate candidate: pregnancy from rape is "something God intended"

Conservatives have a major problem when it comes to abortion in the cases of rape. A lot of them don't see how that makes it any different. Franklinstein

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Conservatives have a major problem when it comes to abortion in the cases of rape. A lot of them don't see how that makes it any different. Rhazakna

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Conservatives have a major problem when it comes to abortion in the cases of rape. A lot of them don't see how that makes it any different. Franklinstein

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Conservatives have a major problem when it comes to abortion in the cases of rape. A lot of them don't see how that makes it any different. Franklinstein

Wait guys, I thought the body could shut pregnancy down in cases of rape, or at least legitimate rape.

[QUOTE="cslayer211"]Stupid comment, but the title is really misleading. He never said that rape was "a gift from God", rather that no matter how life begins, it's a gift from God.HoolaHoopMan

I love it when God gives us precious little rape babies.

Serraph105

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I love it when God gives us precious little rape babies.

22Toothpicks

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I love it when God gives us precious little rape babies.

shadowkiller11

Its amusing that people who don't believe in God, are pointing the finger at God because someone was raped.

According to your "non beliefs", rape is just crime commited by man.

According to the religious, rape is also a crime commited by man.

So tell me, how does "GOD" fit in this equation? Because a woman becomes pregnant? Hmmm..... If God doesn't exist though, then how is it a fault of a non existant being?

Did the stork pay her a visit in her sleep? Or was it a mans violent act upon a woman that caused it due to natural acts of the human body?

Politicians sure say the darndest things!

Its amusing that people who don't believe in God, are pointing the finger at God because someone was raped.

According to your "non beliefs", rape is just crime commited by man.

According to the religious, rape is also a crime commited by man.

So tell me, how does "GOD" fit in this equation? Because a woman becomes pregnant? Hmmm..... If God doesn't exist though, then how is it a fault of a non existant being?

Did the stork pay her a visit in her sleep? Or was it a mans violent act upon a woman that caused it due to natural acts of the human body?

norm41x

The GOP keeps digging it's self into a bigger and bigger whole, Romeny has openly supported him in the past, and he still does, he just doesn't support the comment. If Romney doesn't distance himself from this guy, it will no doubt hurt him in the election.

God does not intend for anyone to get raped. Period. It is an insensitive comment and it's simply wrong. I belive in God, but I know God loves people, I am pro life however I am willing to make an exception in rare cases of rape, incest, or life of the mother. Those I can live with.

[QUOTE="norm41x"]

Its amusing that people who don't believe in God, are pointing the finger at God because someone was raped.

According to your "non beliefs", rape is just crime commited by man.

According to the religious, rape is also a crime commited by man.

So tell me, how does "GOD" fit in this equation? Because a woman becomes pregnant? Hmmm..... If God doesn't exist though, then how is it a fault of a non existant being?

Did the stork pay her a visit in her sleep? Or was it a mans violent act upon a woman that caused it due to natural acts of the human body?

Treflis

He's a sh!tbag all right.ghoklebutter

this is highly insulting to actual bags of sh!t

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]He's a sh!tbag all right.wis3boi

this is highly insulting to actual bags of sh!t

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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]He's a sh!tbag all right.norm41x

this is highly insulting to actual bags of sh!t

even they are ashamed of this man

Lmao.

I've been mulling this over for a long time now (this argument isn't new), and I struggle to see how it makes any sense at all.

It seems we are to blankly state that pregnancies resulting from rape are intended by God, but rapes themselves are not intended by God. Mulling that over, it seems hard to logically attribute the results as a gift from God while also holding that the means by which they occurred as an evil act to be abhorred. mattbbpl

iff there is a god, the GOP is perhaps his test to see who falls for their sh!t :P

I've been mulling this over for a long time now (this argument isn't new), and I struggle to see how it makes any sense at all.

It seems we are to blankly state that pregnancies resulting from rape are intended by God, but rapes themselves are not intended by God. Mulling that over, it seems hard to logically attribute the results as a gift from God while also holding that the means by which they occurred as an evil act to be abhorred. mattbbpl

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I've been mulling this over for a long time now (this argument isn't new), and I struggle to see how it makes any sense at all.

It seems we are to blankly state that pregnancies resulting from rape are intended by God, but rapes themselves are not intended by God. Mulling that over, it seems hard to logically attribute the results as a gift from God while also holding that the means by which they occurred as an evil act to be abhorred. Rhazakna

Well after all, God did rape Mary......Jazz_Fan

Yep not shocked that this is coming from the same party that had only one woman on two panels in speaking out against healthcare covering female contraception.. sSubZerOo

don't forget hurricanes are designed to take out the gay people in the south

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I've been mulling this over for a long time now (this argument isn't new), and I struggle to see how it makes any sense at all.

It seems we are to blankly state that pregnancies resulting from rape are intended by God, but rapes themselves are not intended by God. Mulling that over, it seems hard to logically attribute the results as a gift from God while also holding that the means by which they occurred as an evil act to be abhorred. Rhazakna

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I've been mulling this over for a long time now (this argument isn't new), and I struggle to see how it makes any sense at all.

It seems we are to blankly state that pregnancies resulting from rape are intended by God, but rapes themselves are not intended by God. Mulling that over, it seems hard to logically attribute the results as a gift from God while also holding that the means by which they occurred as an evil act to be abhorred. Franklinstein

I suppose you're talking about the Judeo-Christian God. If you aren't, then my apologies.

God intends every human soul to rejoin him in Heaven. It's not as if that's actually happening.

In fact the entire Judeo-Christian drama is the complete and utter human failure to do as God intends. God provides an Eden; it is rejected. God frees His people; it is rejected. God sends a Messiah; He is rejected.

The flip side of all the sin and suffering, is that God can and does provide something good. Each and every one of those pivotal moments in the Judaism and Christianity was born out of a previous failure on humanity's part.

It applies at a microscopic level as well. God intends unconditional love for our neighbours (Jesus's second commandment). Rape rejects that. Any act of sex has a chance of causing pregnancy, as it was intended, and which is an important reason as to why Christianity observes strict monogamy. But if pregnancy occurs from rape, the wrong action would be to abort. Again, it's a rejection of the second commandment.

The folly is to think rape or abortion gratifies the soul. None of them do, which is why God disallows both. No person comes out feeling a better man after a rape. No woman wants to have to make the decision of having an abortion.

Ugh... I'm a pro-lifer but this guy pisses me off...The-Apostle

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Ugh... I'm a pro-lifer but this guy pisses me off...Rhazakna

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Ugh... I'm a pro-lifer but this guy pisses me off...The-Apostle

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Ugh... I'm a pro-lifer but this guy pisses me off...The-Apostle

[One of the least perceived ones (ironically), is the idea that one of the Ten Commandments is not to kill.FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][One of the least perceived ones (ironically), is the idea that one of the Ten Commandments is not to kill.Ace6301

There are no contradictions in the Bible. Just really bad readings of them. FrozenLiquid

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Read about that earlier today. I doubt he would say that if it happened to his own kin...

You're using a Protestant deficiency, sola scriptura. Even stranger, you're trying to extrapolate the sex slave bit from the sola scriptura deficiency. There are many apparent hypocrisies in the Bible. One of the least perceived ones (ironically), is the idea that one of the Ten Commandments is not to kill. And then later on in Deuteronomy God essentially asks the Israelites to wipe out the tribes in the Promised Land to install Israel. Just because rape is not specified does not mean it is not condemned. Like I said, it violates Jesus's second commandment, to love one's neighbour, unless you want to try figure out a way you can rape and love someone at the same time. There are no contradictions in the Bible. Just really bad readings of them. FrozenLiquid

As I understand it, sola scriptura is the idea that all knowledge of Christian salvation is in the scriptures. I'm not extrapolating anything from that. God commands women be spared, and taken by the Israelites. There's no reason to do this, unless you're using them for breeding, which would by necessity involve rape. Is there some extra-scriptural thing that contradicts or justifies this? If not, I don't see what the supposed deficiency of sola scriptura has to do with this.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] There are no contradictions in the Bible. Just really bad readings of them. wis3boi

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More proof that without Christianity and its establishment of universities and advanced education for purposes of justice and reason, we'd all make idiotic replies at each other.

But you may try throw some arguments instead of degenerating the discussion.

Just because rape is not specified does not mean it is not condemned.FrozenLiquid

Raping female prisoners of war was probably a pretty common practice back then; in fact, it's always been a very common war practice. So, it's odd how it didn't occur to God to make it obvious to people that raping female prisoners of war is bad - unless, of course, he had no problem with it in the first place.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][One of the least perceived ones (ironically), is the idea that one of the Ten Commandments is not to kill.FrozenLiquid