Ghosts... yay or nay?

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#1 turtlethetaffer
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Pretty simple question. Do you think ghosts exist or not? I'm really on the fence... the idea seems plausible but at the same time there's not a ton of proof for it... I did once have a strange experience at a friend's house but I can't know for sure.

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#2 Chow_Mein_Kampf
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I don't.

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#3 wis3boi
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Not a snowball's chance in hell

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#4 Jolt_counter119
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Nay.

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#5 dcelw540
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Not a snowball's chance in hell

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lol love that quote!
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#6 Kevlar101
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Ater all the stuff I have been through in my life, and especially today, and stories from all the people in this neighborhood about this one house, then HELL YES.
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#7 XilePrincess
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The idea is about as realistic as God and most can be explained away by science, but I like the idea. I think it's neat.
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#8 br0kenrabbit
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If ghosts existed, we'd be surrounded by them. Lots of people die. Lots of people die under tragic circumstances.

Not a lot of ghosts around.

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#9 Shadow_Fighter
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I guess technicaly anything is possiable but with the amount of people who died, stasticaly there should be more then just a few sighting or a few areas where ghost can be sighted.

If you go with Dante's view on hell based on inferno a snowball actually has near a 100% of exisitng in hell as long as it is at the 9th circle.

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#10 Mcspanky37
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It wuz dem ghosts mahn!

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#11 finalfantasy94
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If ghosts existed, we'd be surrounded by them. Lots of people die. Lots of people die under tragic circumstances.

Not a lot of ghosts around.

br0kenrabbit

they proboly wait till you sleep then do awful things to you:P. Me personally yay.

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#13 br0kenrabbit
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they proboly wait till you sleep then do awful things to you:P. Me personally yay.

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Which is another thing: this ghost only come out at night BS. "Geeze, I don't really know what I saw because it was dark, but it looked like a ghost to me." Ahaha...ungh.:|

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#14 konvikt_17
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for the most part, no.

though there have been a few instances that make me wonder. one, for example, we were in our living room, when out of nowhere we heard this loud werd sound. turns out it was a box of dominoes that had randomly fell in my closet. now the box of dominoes beforehand, were placed in such a postion, that there is no way they could have fallen.

then one night i was home with my sister, and we heard a constant knock on our sliding glass door. we checked around the house. nothing. there are hardly any teens/kids in our neighborhood and no one knew we were home alone.

then recently, i have found the cushion thingy from my 360 headset mouthpiece thing, in our bathroom floor, by the trashcan. for the past 3 days. i am usually the last one to go to bed, as such im the last one in the living room where the headset is. have no idea how the mouthpiece cover gets to the bathroom.

have had several questionable events.

now im not saying ghosts are real, but im also not saying they are not real.

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#15 AlbedoSnake
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I've got a pretty weird view when it comes to that. I'm atheist, but yes, I believe in ghosts. I think it's possible some "echo" (to put it in tangible terms) of the psyche might remain in a place when the living person is gone, even if that "echo" is not necessarily the actual person who died. I obviously have no scientific evidence to back that up, but that's just what I like to think.

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#16 konvikt_17
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oh, we have these little lights around our garden on our front yard. well one day, while my parents were away, i woke up to find them all laid nicely on the sidewalk in front of our house. one light per square.

ive ruled out kids, as we dont have hardly any in my niehgborhood.

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#17 ShadowsDemon
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To a certain degree, yes.
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#18 Allicrombie
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No, I don't haunt people anymore.
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#19 SaudiFury
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no.

the concept of your dead folks coming back to haunt/tell you something makes less sense then other (lesser) supernatural beings that are meant to simply exist like Djinns. At least when talking about Djinns and dust devils they're supposed to exist in and of themselves as beings seperate from the material world. and even then the evidence for the existence of both aside from simple gut feelings and spookin' the $hit out of yourself in the dark is the same... zero.

EDIT:

but do i think both can make for good stories? yeah i think so.

but that doesn't make either of them anymore true.

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#20 KC_Hokie
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Nope...and I love you guys!
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#21 MrGeezer
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Pretty simple question. Do you think ghosts exist or not? I'm really on the fence... the idea seems plausible but at the same time there's not a ton of proof for it... I did once have a strange experience at a friend's house but I can't know for sure.

turtlethetaffer
There's no evidence of ghosts, so I don't believe in ghosts. That said, if you've ever seen or felt or heard a ghost, I'm not gonna go "oh my god you believe in ghosts! You're so ignorant and stupid!" Believe in ghosts all you like, so long as your belief in ghosts doesn't result in you turning into a total jackass.
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#22 sexyweapons
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I think if ghosts did exist their would be some scientific evidence by now.

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#23 juden41
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I don't think they do. They always talk about Queen Mary or something haunting the tower of London, idk, they say there are "sightings," but for the most part, I don't.
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#24 SaudiFury
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I think if ghosts did exist their would be some scientific evidence by now.

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I don't think scientific evidence is even required. the very premise of ghosts doesn't make sense. Even the explanations as to why ghosts exist (when coupled with belief in the afterlife) does not make sense. Because it makes transitioning into the afterlife this confused walk-about.
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#25 starfox15
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No.

Goddamn it.

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#26 krazykillaz
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Ghosts don't exist. Without evidence, there's no reason to believe that they do.
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#27 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

I think if ghosts did exist their would be some scientific evidence by now.

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I don't think scientific evidence is even required. the very premise of ghosts doesn't make sense. Even the explanations as to why ghosts exist (when coupled with belief in the afterlife) does not make sense. Because it makes transitioning into the afterlife this confused walk-about.

No...you look at the evidence. "Making sense" is largely personal and subjective BS. Lots of stuff that is true arguably doesn't seem to "make sense". But when the evidence paints a very clear picture, then it's more likely that your idea of "what makes sense" is simply wrong. It isn't that the existence of ghosts "doesn't make sense", it's that there is no evidence of ghosts. It's that there isn't even evidence for the underlying principles that would be required for ghosts to exist (such as some form of consciousness existing after death and independent of a physical body). If there were evidence that consciousness could exist without death and with no body, and if there was evidence that such consciousness sometimes appears in the form of a ghost, then the correct thing to do is to realize that my idea of "what makes sense" was simply wrong.
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#28 Ace6301
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Sure would be more interesting if they did exist but from what I've seen they do not.
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#29 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

I think if ghosts did exist their would be some scientific evidence by now.

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I don't think scientific evidence is even required. the very premise of ghosts doesn't make sense. Even the explanations as to why ghosts exist (when coupled with belief in the afterlife) does not make sense. Because it makes transitioning into the afterlife this confused walk-about.

No...you look at the evidence. "Making sense" is largely personal and subjective BS. Lots of stuff that is true arguably doesn't seem to "make sense". But when the evidence paints a very clear picture, then it's more likely that your idea of "what makes sense" is simply wrong. It isn't that the existence of ghosts "doesn't make sense", it's that there is no evidence of ghosts. It's that there isn't even evidence for the underlying principles that would be required for ghosts to exist (such as some form of consciousness existing after death and independent of a physical body). If there were evidence that consciousness could exist without death and with no body, and if there was evidence that such consciousness sometimes appears in the form of a ghost, then the correct thing to do is to realize that my idea of "what makes sense" was simply wrong.

then what i said about what 'makes sense' is my own subjective BS. and i was speaking even before i go looking for evidence. If there was evidence for it, i would more then willing eat my words. I could very well BE wrong, i was merely illustrating that on it's face, the premise for the existence of ghosts don't make sense to me.
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#30 PernicioEnigma
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How the hell is the existence of ghosts plausible? I rank ghost right up there with God and Satan on the "probably don't exist" list.
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#31 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Not a snowball's chance in hell

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lol love that quote!

What if hell had frozen over hrrrmmmmmm????

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#32 SirWander
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well here is a simple answer to your simple question: nay, dude.

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#33 Dogswithguns
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Never seen one so. no..
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#34 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

I think if ghosts did exist their would be some scientific evidence by now.

SaudiFury
I don't think scientific evidence is even required. the very premise of ghosts doesn't make sense. Even the explanations as to why ghosts exist (when coupled with belief in the afterlife) does not make sense. Because it makes transitioning into the afterlife this confused walk-about.

The realm of logic and reason doesn't really apply to the supernatural. I don't believe in the whole, "the dead haunt you" theory, but I do believe in the supernatural.
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#35 Michael0134567
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Of course they exist. They talk to me all the time.

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#36 AtlanticRock
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they used to exist... before these guys showed up:

Full-Stream-ghostbusters-27831704-500-20

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#37 BatCrazedJoker
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Until I see one I do not believe that ghosts exist.
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#38 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

I think if ghosts did exist their would be some scientific evidence by now.

ShadowsDemon

I don't think scientific evidence is even required. the very premise of ghosts doesn't make sense. Even the explanations as to why ghosts exist (when coupled with belief in the afterlife) does not make sense. Because it makes transitioning into the afterlife this confused walk-about.

The realm of logic and reason doesn't really apply to the supernatural. I don't believe in the whole, "the dead haunt you" theory, but I do believe in the supernatural.

How do you distinguish between the Natural and Super-Natural if it was to exist?

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#39 IdioticIcarus
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I got in trouble once because apparently in the next room people were talking about the holy ghost, and my niece came and asked me if ghosts were real, and I said no.

But no.

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"] I don't think scientific evidence is even required. the very premise of ghosts doesn't make sense. Even the explanations as to why ghosts exist (when coupled with belief in the afterlife) does not make sense. Because it makes transitioning into the afterlife this confused walk-about. mattisgod01

The realm of logic and reason doesn't really apply to the supernatural. I don't believe in the whole, "the dead haunt you" theory, but I do believe in the supernatural.

How do you distinguish between the Natural and Super-Natural if it was to exist?

If it exists, then surely it is natural :P

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#41 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] The realm of logic and reason doesn't really apply to the supernatural. I don't believe in the whole, "the dead haunt you" theory, but I do believe in the supernatural. wis3boi

How do you distinguish between the Natural and Super-Natural if it was to exist?

If it exists, then surely it is natural :P

Exactly, People use the word "Supernatural" all the time but i don't quite know what they mean....

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#42 AussieePet
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They are real. i heard the Freddy Kruger song 1,2 he's coming for you and a voicee like a monster voice in my room last month when it was a thunderstorm
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#43 wis3boi
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They are real. i heard the Freddy Kruger song 1,2 he's coming for you and a voicee like a monster voice in my room last month when it was a thunderstorm AussieePet

Can I borrow some of your magic mushrooms?

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#44 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

How do you distinguish between the Natural and Super-Natural if it was to exist?

mattisgod01

If it exists, then surely it is natural :P

Exactly, People use the word "Supernatural" all the time but i don't quite know what they mean....

It's a euphemism for "I'm pulling this stuff out of my ass."

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#45 TwoFace-BS
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Nay but dont really care either way to be honest
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#46 trastamad03
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I don't believe in ghost, but I like ghost movies.
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#47 Michael0134567
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They are real. i heard the Freddy Kruger song 1,2 he's coming for you and a voicee like a monster voice in my room last month when it was a thunderstorm AussieePet
You alright, girl?
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#48 tenaka2
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its possible, but there is little proof, its possilbe that something in the environment can record events and some people have the ability to see it.

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#49 SouL-Tak3R
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I love ghost stories, horror movies, and such. But I absolutely do not believe in ghosts. Like someone said before, people die tragically in sick ways all the time. So where are the ghosts?

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#50 AdrenalinDragon
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After watching Ghost Hunters for the first time last night on TV, my belief in believing ghosts are out there has diminished. :(