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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Conversely they could give them meds that correlate with physical form....BluRayHiDef
So what's the harm in either?Â
One option accommodates reality, while the other accommodates a delusion.
It's only a delusion in your eyes because your entire foundation of your argument and reasoning is that trans people suffer from delusions. Your whole point was that if a trans woman was really a woman, she'd be a "woman" from birth as assigned by doctors and everything.You're positioning how you understand the world around you as an objective reality when it's simply not the case.
It gets really tiring listening to people spout off high school sex ed knowledge as if they have any clue of how the human body works. Chromosomes? They can change, they aren't immutable. Hormone levels? Can also change, even naturally by drastic levels. Genitals? They can come out atypical through birth, or seemingly typical external genitalia can hide away atypical internal reproductive organs. Sometimes there's a lack thereof. Some intersex conditions (of which there are many) can make XY women and XX men, and sometimes (albeit exceedingly rarely) they're fertile. These atypical conditions occur sometimes due to genetics, sometimes from hormone levels in utero, etc. etc. Is it so far-fetched that the development of the brain might happen atypically as compared to the rest of the body? Why, it already does, yet why do people deny that it could be a cause for gender dysphoria?
The medical community accepts intersex conditions. They occur, even if people don't want to believe they do. Just like the medical community has accepted that what trans people experience is valid, through mounting peer reviewed evidence and through decades of exhaustive research on finding efficaceous treatments. Psychotherapy didn't work, cognitive-behavioural therapy didn't work, antidepressants didn't work, anti-anxiety meds didn't work, anti-psychotics didn't work, lobotomies didn't work, etc. etc. But regulate their hormone levels within the typical range of the sex they identify with, and symptoms of dysphoria drops. Amend the state of the body to physically resemble the sex they identify with, and once again, dysphoria symptoms are reduced. Help the patient with social integration into the gender they wish to express themselves as, andagain, dysphoria symptoms are reduced. Until at one point, for some at least, the level of discomfort in their body and social role are no greater than the average person. Their dysphoria is virtually eliminated, and they're content with where they are.
Have you even remotely scanned studies from the past twenty years start consistently show more and more proof that there is a biological component that creates gender dysphoria? The biggest delusion in all of human society is that sex exists as a binary, and that sex and gender are rightfully conflated. It's all socially prescribed with little basis aside from tradition and what is understood as "common sense", where knowledge of trans* issues simply are not found, because trans* issues are simply not common. So most people cannot immediately make sense of such things, which is uncomfortable, so they rely on stigmas and tired old statements and arguments that only show how lazy people have gotten in the past years. This isn't the early 90s with Ace Ventura just coming out in theatres. We know a lot more now than we did then, and it's been a long, long time since the John Money experiments.
Some trans folk don't want surgery, and some don't even want hormones. Many of the former can't afford it or are wary of the quality of the result given by the current surgical techniques. I know some who specified to me that unless they can transplant ovaries, a uterus, etc. they're going to just wait and hope that becomes available. Some of the former group are pleased with their genitalia, or at least content enough that it doesn't pose a significant issue for them. But most prefer hormones. I know a few genderqueer folk who don't use them, just as I know some who have used them for a period of time to gaina specific appearance, and just like I know some genderqueer folk who plan on using them for the rest of their lives. Most trans people, if they can get access to it, and if they can afford it, will get hormones. Above all else, this treatment is the most significant for the well being of trans people. Especially transsexuals, who tend to have much higher levels of dysphoria that need treating.
I've approached this post from a more scientific vein, because that seems to be your angle. In truth, even if there wasn't mounting evidence showing trans people's conditions are at least in part biologically founded, it would be a condition at least equivalent to homosexuality. Because men have dicks and women have vaginas, and they have sex for reproduction. If gay men really wanted to have sex with men, they'd be women, right? That's the kind of logic you're spouting, and that's the kind of logic peple used on homosexuals a long, long time ago, along with many of Freud's flawed theories. Fact is, some people are gay and we don't know why, we just take them at their word because it's clear that they're attracted to men, just like lesbians are attracted to women, and bisexual folk are attracted to both. If we allow ourselves to see sexuality as a spectrum, which it well and truly is, why can we not finally admit to ourselves that so is gender and sex, and that we hold innate characteristics that position ourselves along those spectrums?
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