In a few years emails will be birtherism all over again. They will keep bringing it up, and we will just smile, pat them on the head, and say "whatever you say champ, whatever you say".
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In a few years emails will be birtherism all over again. They will keep bringing it up, and we will just smile, pat them on the head, and say "whatever you say champ, whatever you say".
The email scandal is already birtherism 2.0.
Same stubborness, intellectual dishonesty and willful ignorance driving it too.
In a few years emails will be birtherism all over again. They will keep bringing it up, and we will just smile, pat them on the head, and say "whatever you say champ, whatever you say".
The email scandal is already birtherism 2.0.
Same stubborness, intellectual dishonesty and willful ignorance driving it too.
Since you are equating this to the birth fiasco, are you saying she is completely innocent and free of wrong doing when it comes to this email scandal/fiasco? Just a witch hunt, huh? Zero basis for concern and investigation?
In a few years emails will be birtherism all over again. They will keep bringing it up, and we will just smile, pat them on the head, and say "whatever you say champ, whatever you say".
The email scandal is already birtherism 2.0.
Same stubborness, intellectual dishonesty and willful ignorance driving it too.
Since you are equating this to the birth fiasco, are you saying she is completely innocent and free of wrong doing when it comes to this email scandal/fiasco? Just a witch hunt, huh? Zero basis for concern and investigation?
Yes.
She hasn't been SOS since Early 2013.
I'm more concerned with Trumps multiple Fraud Lawsuits, his Rape Investigations, and his past conviction and settlements of discriminatory behavior.
Yes.
She hasn't been SOS since Early 2013.
I'm more concerned with Trumps multiple Fraud Lawsuits, his Rape Investigations, and his past conviction and settlements of discriminatory behavior.
Whether or not you realize it, it says a lot about your character when you cavalierly excuse lying based on which candidate is doing it. Although I shouldn't be surprised I still am when it comes to certain individuals forgiving her actions.
Yes.
She hasn't been SOS since Early 2013.
I'm more concerned with Trumps multiple Fraud Lawsuits, his Rape Investigations, and his past conviction and settlements of discriminatory behavior.
Whether or not you realize it, it says a lot about your character when you cavalierly excuse lying based on which candidate is doing it. Although I shouldn't be surprised I still am when it comes to certain individuals forgiving her actions.
And yet, here you are, doing exactly the same thing.
I guess our characters are the same.
When the alternative is Trump, there is nothing that anyone can post to derail the Hillary train.
Trump made an ass of himself in Mexico, he's an international joke.
@Solaryellow:
It is a witch hunt and the matter was settled. Time to move past that. Her character is no worse than Donald Trump's and it's positively ridiculous how much some of you beat up on her and completely ignore the multitude of character flaws that Trump has.
They both have serious character flaws, but the bottom line is she has the capability of being a positive and effective president. He doesn't. In 4 years we can see where things stand and who else is running for office, but for now her stability in the White House is the important thing to have.
@Solaryellow:
It is a witch hunt and the matter was settled. Time to move past that. Her character is no worse than Donald Trump's and it's positively ridiculous how much some of you beat up on her and completely ignore the multitude of character flaws that Trump has.
They both have serious character flaws, but the bottom line is she has the capability of being a positive and effective president. He doesn't. In 4 years we can see where things stand and who else is running for office, but for now her stability in the White House is the important thing to have.
She is a career crook and liar, not a character flaw. She is running for president for her own self interest as she has done for every political post she ever held.
Yes.
She hasn't been SOS since Early 2013.
I'm more concerned with Trumps multiple Fraud Lawsuits, his Rape Investigations, and his past conviction and settlements of discriminatory behavior.
Whether or not you realize it, it says a lot about your character when you cavalierly excuse lying based on which candidate is doing it. Although I shouldn't be surprised I still am when it comes to certain individuals forgiving her actions.
And yet, here you are, doing exactly the same thing.
I guess our characters are the same.
I'm not excusing a career politician for lying unlike you who is defending her actions by mentioning Trump. She's a proven liar no matter how difficult it is for you to muster the fortitude required to admit such. The F.B.I. said she lied yet you still excuse it.
@AFBrat77: I'm 100% amazed at how utterly blinded Hillary voters are, perhaps brainwashed? How is she fit to be president? Because she's been in politics for a long time? By that reasoning I'm fit to be a F1 driver because I've been driving for a long time. I can't stand the sheer amount of stupidity shown by both sides during this election.
@AFBrat77: I'm 100% amazed at how utterly blinded Hillary voters are, perhaps brainwashed? How is she fit to be president? Because she's been in politics for a long time? By that reasoning I'm fit to be a F1 driver because I've been driving for a long time. I can't stand the sheer amount of stupidity shown by both sides during this election.
That's actually a decent analogy you made.
People do not understand time does not make one qualified. How well you performed a position should hold merit.
Yes.
She hasn't been SOS since Early 2013.
I'm more concerned with Trumps multiple Fraud Lawsuits, his Rape Investigations, and his past conviction and settlements of discriminatory behavior.
Whether or not you realize it, it says a lot about your character when you cavalierly excuse lying based on which candidate is doing it. Although I shouldn't be surprised I still am when it comes to certain individuals forgiving her actions.
And yet, here you are, doing exactly the same thing.
I guess our characters are the same.
I'm not excusing a career politician for lying unlike you who is defending her actions by mentioning Trump. She's a proven liar no matter how difficult it is for you to muster the fortitude required to admit such. The F.B.I. said she lied yet you still excuse it.
Your Character is so poor.
Excusing one politician for lying while criticizing the other.
Pitiful.
Some of the devices that had access to her emails were destroyed with hammers? Thefuq?
At this point Hillary could probably run over a baby and nobody would care.
Not when she's running against the worst person in the world.
I'm not excusing a career politician for lying unlike you who is defending her actions by mentioning Trump. She's a proven liar no matter how difficult it is for you to muster the fortitude required to admit such. The F.B.I. said she lied yet you still excuse it.
Your Character is so poor.
Excusing one politician for lying while criticizing the other.
Pitiful.
I should have expected such a response since the lack of critical thinking and obvious hypocrisy go hand and hand with ole Hildog supporters especially when backed against the wall with verifiable facts. Defend her at all costs. She's not wrong because that guy did something else! Does that about sum up her supporters?
Yes.
She hasn't been SOS since Early 2013.
I'm more concerned with Trumps multiple Fraud Lawsuits, his Rape Investigations, and his past conviction and settlements of discriminatory behavior.
Whether or not you realize it, it says a lot about your character when you cavalierly excuse lying based on which candidate is doing it. Although I shouldn't be surprised I still am when it comes to certain individuals forgiving her actions.
And yet, here you are, doing exactly the same thing.
I guess our characters are the same.
I'm not excusing a career politician for lying unlike you who is defending her actions by mentioning Trump. She's a proven liar no matter how difficult it is for you to muster the fortitude required to admit such. The F.B.I. said she lied yet you still excuse it.
Your Character is so poor.
Excusing one politician for lying while criticizing the other.
Pitiful.
He's right though.
Nothing really new there actually. Apparently also not a new event since Colin Powell told her how to get around it. Nothing really to see here. Generally though if caught people are cautioned and told not to do it again. Nothing shows any intent to pass on the information.
I'm not excusing a career politician for lying unlike you who is defending her actions by mentioning Trump. She's a proven liar no matter how difficult it is for you to muster the fortitude required to admit such. The F.B.I. said she lied yet you still excuse it.
Your Character is so poor.
Excusing one politician for lying while criticizing the other.
Pitiful.
I should have expected such a response since the lack of critical thinking and obvious hypocrisy go hand and hand with ole Hildog supporters especially when backed against the wall with verifiable facts. Defend her at all costs. She's not wrong because that guy did something else! Does that about sum up her supporters?
And Trump lies. I take it you are voting for a third candidate cause if not you're just being a hypocrite.
I should have expected such a response since the lack of critical thinking and obvious hypocrisy go hand and hand with ole Hildog supporters especially when backed against the wall with verifiable facts. Defend her at all costs. She's not wrong because that guy did something else! Does that about sum up her supporters?
And Trump lies. I take it you are voting for a third candidate cause if not you're just being a hypocrite.
You can try asking for my opinion about the other candidate.
I'm not excusing a career politician for lying unlike you who is defending her actions by mentioning Trump. She's a proven liar no matter how difficult it is for you to muster the fortitude required to admit such. The F.B.I. said she lied yet you still excuse it.
Your Character is so poor.
Excusing one politician for lying while criticizing the other.
Pitiful.
I should have expected such a response since the lack of critical thinking and obvious hypocrisy go hand and hand with ole Hildog supporters especially when backed against the wall with verifiable facts. Defend her at all costs. She's not wrong because that guy did something else! Does that about sum up her supporters?
Again, If you support Trump then by your very own standards, your character is the same as mine.
Is Hilliary the first slimy eel of a politician that people have experienced?
It seems like some peoples innocence/ignorance of politics have recently been taken
I'm not excusing a career politician for lying unlike you who is defending her actions by mentioning Trump. She's a proven liar no matter how difficult it is for you to muster the fortitude required to admit such. The F.B.I. said she lied yet you still excuse it.
Your Character is so poor.
Excusing one politician for lying while criticizing the other.
Pitiful.
I should have expected such a response since the lack of critical thinking and obvious hypocrisy go hand and hand with ole Hildog supporters especially when backed against the wall with verifiable facts. Defend her at all costs. She's not wrong because that guy did something else! Does that about sum up her supporters?
Again, If you support Trump then by your very own standards, your character is the same as mine.
My character would be questionable (like yours) if I excused Trump for lying or doing something unethical/immoral/questionable because someone else acted in a similar manner. Hell man, children use that excuse to get away with or justify actions.
I should have expected such a response since the lack of critical thinking and obvious hypocrisy go hand and hand with ole Hildog supporters especially when backed against the wall with verifiable facts. Defend her at all costs. She's not wrong because that guy did something else! Does that about sum up her supporters?
And Trump lies. I take it you are voting for a third candidate cause if not you're just being a hypocrite.
You can try asking for my opinion about the other candidate.
No need. Did you understand my post?
Now China is going to take us over, that's how bad this is. But no. Even Snowden couldn't hurt America's little security blanket, there is nothing to fear but irrational fear.
I should have expected such a response since the lack of critical thinking and obvious hypocrisy go hand and hand with ole Hildog supporters especially when backed against the wall with verifiable facts. Defend her at all costs. She's not wrong because that guy did something else! Does that about sum up her supporters?
And Trump lies. I take it you are voting for a third candidate cause if not you're just being a hypocrite.
You can try asking for my opinion about the other candidate.
No need. Did you understand my post?
Something tells me you don't understand or haven't followed the scope of this discussion which is why you need some clarification.
Something tells me you don't understand or haven't followed the scope of this discussion which is why you need some clarification.
I'm talking to you....not your other conversations and your reply was not in the scope of THAT discussion. You must need clarification.
Something tells me you don't understand or haven't followed the scope of this discussion which is why you need some clarification.
I'm talking to you....not your other conversations and your reply was not in the scope of THAT discussion. You must need clarification.
You are not following otherwise you wouldn't equate some mythical hypocrisy in voting for him with someone who has excused one's actions due to the actions of another and, might I add, answered in the affirmative when asked if she is an innocent person caught up in a witch hunt. You'd have an actual point if I'd be so bold as to excuse any lie he has uttered from his mouth because she lied. Please pay attention.
@dave123321
Trump is putting on somewhat of a ruse and while he might be sincere in some of his positions, he is performing and knows exactly what will fire up the people. Looking back upon those who have run for office and have won office, he is as fit as the rest of them. Politics should teach you that no matter how small and minor of a comment, it will be exploited. That's just how it goes. If you are from the states you will have seen the anti Trump ad showcasing his non pc actions. Specifically, he says "I'd bomb the shit out of them." Considering his opponent is a war hawk, comments like that do not alarm me. When he says "I know more than the generals" I'm not alarmed either because he is playing those who have absolutely zero faith in the Democrats when it comes to the failed policy on ISIS. Politics is the worst game one can play because the goal posts are constantly moving. Sincerity and honesty are in short supply. Ideally though, we'd have two other candidates who are genuinely good for the country rather than what has become the norm: Voting for the lesser of two evils.
@CommandoAgent:
USA should care what the unpopular president of Mexico thinks if we want them to pay for the wall. If they don't and they already stated that they won't, guess who's left with the bill? Rhymes with boo.
Something tells me you don't understand or haven't followed the scope of this discussion which is why you need some clarification.
I'm talking to you....not your other conversations and your reply was not in the scope of THAT discussion. You must need clarification.
Sincerity and honesty are in short supply.
You just excused Trumps lying.
You have terrible character.
You guys still on about "OMG THE e-mails!"? lmao.
Trump is done. Time to cut him up and serve him with some biscuits.
So you would rather have someone who has being careless and mentally unstable like Hillary to win?
if you guys don't like Hillary you should have gone and voted for Bernie Sanders
I think what a lot of people are missing in this whole shitstorm is that Bernie was not a serious candidate at any point. His foreign policy knowledge was shown to be suspect time and time again, his economic policies, while exhibiting well intent, were based in a fantasy land as well. He aligned himself with a ton of dipshit millenial groups who want to silence free expression, and seemed to be banking on people not realizing his striking deficits.
if you guys don't like Hillary you should have gone and voted for Bernie Sanders
I think what a lot of people are missing in this whole shitstorm is that Bernie was not a serious candidate at any point. His foreign policy knowledge was shown to be suspect time and time again, his economic policies, while exhibiting well intent, were based in a fantasy land as well. He aligned himself with a ton of dipshit millenial groups who want to silence free expression, and seemed to be banking on people not realizing his striking deficits.
While I do agree with the foreign policy (though not as bad as Clinton's) and potentially siding with the regressive left.
His economic policies have worked fairly well in the nordic countries. Obamacare is incredibly inefficient compared to the single payer system.
Edit: His stance on nuclear power and GMO labelling is also questionable. As far as I am concerned, he is only one step above clinton, which by all means, is still pretty low. Both beat Trump though... shudders.
Trumps a racist wanna be dictator with an big ego, hes dangerous because he doesn't care about what his actions will do to the rest of the world. Hilary on the other hand doesn't understand email technology too well so she lied a few times to cover up her lack of knowledge of the security risk.
Really though, i rather have a person who made a few mistakes but is overall a good person and stable, than a maniac who wants to become a more powerful dictator than adolf hitler.
Whenever you hear Trump speak, all he talks about is bombing people, invading, destroying things and stealing and exploiting the weak. Sounds like a great person to be in charge of the most important country in the world. I don't think he understands if he acts like a dictator he will be seen as one and eventually will have to answer for his crimes.
You can't convince these trump people that he's dangerous. Just remember if he becomes president that the world tried to warn you. Hopefully he won't start a world war before they can impeach or arrest him for warcrimes or just excessive incompedence.
if you guys don't like Hillary you should have gone and voted for Bernie Sanders
I think what a lot of people are missing in this whole shitstorm is that Bernie was not a serious candidate at any point. His foreign policy knowledge was shown to be suspect time and time again, his economic policies, while exhibiting well intent, were based in a fantasy land as well. He aligned himself with a ton of dipshit millenial groups who want to silence free expression, and seemed to be banking on people not realizing his striking deficits.
While I do agree with the foreign policy (though not as bad as Clinton's) and potentially siding with the regressive left.
His economic policies have worked fairly well in the nordic countries. Obamacare is incredibly inefficient compared to the single payer system.
The UK has that too. The NHS is the largest and oldest single-payer health system in the world. Public healthcare works.
@Yams1980:
Well said, especially about e-mail technology. I've always believed the same thing. Basically, as a boomer in her late 60's she just wasn't well-versed in e-mail technology, and she lied to cover up her lack of knowledge of the security risks, which she thought was covered by what Colin Powell told her.
I bet any of the hypocrites here in OT would have lied also to protect themselves if they were honest with themselves. A mistake for sure, but certainly nothing intentional and unforgivable. She isn't this horrible person people here make her out to be. Unfortunately lying in that situation is especially prevalent in your typical ambitious politician. But most people by nature will try to cover up a mistake that could get them in trouble.
And this should have ceased to be an issue once the FBI concluded the matter. But a lot of people are fooled by Republican fodder that keeps pressure off a Republican candidate who doesn't have any detailed ideas of his own and just puts everything under his secret plan umbrella to make America great. We are supposed to buy into that plan, that only he, an unstable narcissist with average intelligence, can fix America's problems. No. People, Trump is just winging it!
Under ordinary circumstances, we would need serious repercussions...but Trump cannot become president. I'll be voting for Clinton in November, because the alternative is just something that cannot happen.
On a separate not entirely, if there is anyone here who doesn't believe politicians break the law all the time, well...I've got ocean front property in Utah to sell you.
A man that is pro nationalism, anti trade sanctions, protectionist, pro-american can't possibly be president
While a criminal, murdering, traitorous anti-human globalist zealot is the safe choice. Hillary said from her own mouth the White House takes orders from the CFR. Hillary cares about Hillary and that's it, the only person in the world she cares about is her name.
I'm not pro Trump I'm not American but the idea that Hillary cares about the country is literally insane. She sold secrets to other countries many times and there are thousands of deleted emails detailing her illegal behavior but it didn't have classified at the top so no big deal... oh wait it did have the C because they don't say classified? So she's completely full of shit? Aww ok.
Confirmation bias? You guys are fucking nuts, tens of thousands of pieces of damning evidence and none of you retards care. All you do is repeat what the TV says.... bubububu Hillary said she's innocent. Ok, must be true, no way a career lawyer and politician trained in lying in both careers would ever lie, never. Take the confirmation bias and shove it, freaking hypocrites.
Republicans have been creating and attacking the evil cartoon version of Hillary for 25 years, only to be made complete fools of by her each and every time. Normal Americans already don't take the Republican party seriously, and they're not going to start any time soon.
Hillary Clinton is the only qualified candidate in this race.
So we're ignoring tens of thousands of pieces of evidence? Politicians saying "I'd be in jail if I did what you did" to Hillary are just crazy? Every single accusation made about her ever is a "cartoon version" by "complete fools"? There's zero chance a politician and lawyer would ever lie? She's infallible because of her seniority in government?
Under ordinary circumstances, we would need serious repercussions...but Trump cannot become president. I'll be voting for Clinton in November, because the alternative is just something that cannot happen.
On a separate not entirely, if there is anyone here who doesn't believe politicians break the law all the time, well...I've got ocean front property in Utah to sell you.
A man that is pro nationalism, anti trade sanctions, protectionist, pro-american can't possibly be president
While a criminal, murdering, traitorous anti-human globalist zealot is the safe choice. Hillary said from her own mouth the White House takes orders from the CFR. Hillary cares about Hillary and that's it, the only person in the world she cares about is her name.
I'm not pro Trump I'm not American but the idea that Hillary cares about the country is literally insane. She sold secrets to other countries many times and there are thousands of deleted emails detailing her illegal behavior but it didn't have classified at the top so no big deal... oh wait it did have the C because they don't say classified? So she's completely full of shit? Aww ok.
Confirmation bias? You guys are fucking nuts, tens of thousands of pieces of damning evidence and none of you retards care. All you do is repeat what the TV says.... bubububu Hillary said she's innocent. Ok, must be true, no way a career lawyer and politician trained in lying in both careers would ever lie, never. Take the confirmation bias and shove it, freaking hypocrites.
And this is why its best only to leave the law to the professionals.
Anyone who takes the law at face value doesnt understand the legal system. Plain and simple. Taking the law at face value, you might assume Hillary is a criminal, but if you actually look into the freakin' legal system. You will see how Hillary dodged a bullet.
Hillary didnt break the espionage act, that act has concerned itself with intent for a long time now.
I dont like it, but facts are facts. You are dead wrong in nearly your entire post. With the only thing that is likely correct is Hillary is doing this for herself.
Under ordinary circumstances, we would need serious repercussions...but Trump cannot become president. I'll be voting for Clinton in November, because the alternative is just something that cannot happen.
On a separate not entirely, if there is anyone here who doesn't believe politicians break the law all the time, well...I've got ocean front property in Utah to sell you.
A man that is pro nationalism, anti trade sanctions, protectionist, pro-american can't possibly be president
While a criminal, murdering, traitorous anti-human globalist zealot is the safe choice. Hillary said from her own mouth the White House takes orders from the CFR. Hillary cares about Hillary and that's it, the only person in the world she cares about is her name.
I'm not pro Trump I'm not American but the idea that Hillary cares about the country is literally insane. She sold secrets to other countries many times and there are thousands of deleted emails detailing her illegal behavior but it didn't have classified at the top so no big deal... oh wait it did have the C because they don't say classified? So she's completely full of shit? Aww ok.
Confirmation bias? You guys are fucking nuts, tens of thousands of pieces of damning evidence and none of you retards care. All you do is repeat what the TV says.... bubububu Hillary said she's innocent. Ok, must be true, no way a career lawyer and politician trained in lying in both careers would ever lie, never. Take the confirmation bias and shove it, freaking hypocrites.
And this is why its best only to leave the law to the professionals.
Anyone who takes the law at face value doesnt understand the legal system. Plain and simple. Taking the law at face value, you might assume Hillary is a criminal, but if you actually look into the freakin' legal system. You will see how Hillary dodged a bullet.
Hillary didnt break the espionage act, that act has concerned itself with intent for a long time now.
I dont like it, but facts are facts. You are dead wrong in nearly your entire post. With the only thing that is likely correct is Hillary is doing this for herself.
Of course not. The internet is full of basement dwelling law professionals and PhD scientists. The experts simply can't be right.
Honestly, if there was ANYTHING damning the GOP would nail her down with it. She had over HALF of the entire political and legal spectrum combing for anything that could either put her away or disqualify her chances at the presidency. The FBI, headed by a Republican at that, wouldn't even press charges. So we're left with two scenarios:
1) There wasn't anything illegal or damning found so no one could legally kill her political career.
2) Republicans are the most incompetent bunch of legal and political professionals ever seen, considering their inability to stop Hillary with all this 'damning' evidence.
if you guys don't like Hillary you should have gone and voted for Bernie Sanders
I think what a lot of people are missing in this whole shitstorm is that Bernie was not a serious candidate at any point. His foreign policy knowledge was shown to be suspect time and time again, his economic policies, while exhibiting well intent, were based in a fantasy land as well. He aligned himself with a ton of dipshit millenial groups who want to silence free expression, and seemed to be banking on people not realizing his striking deficits.
While I do agree with the foreign policy (though not as bad as Clinton's) and potentially siding with the regressive left.
His economic policies have worked fairly well in the nordic countries. Obamacare is incredibly inefficient compared to the single payer system.
The UK has that too. The NHS is the largest and oldest single-payer health system in the world. Public healthcare works.
Where Bernie erred, however, was pretending all the healthcare would not cost anything. This really put me off.
if you guys don't like Hillary you should have gone and voted for Bernie Sanders
I think what a lot of people are missing in this whole shitstorm is that Bernie was not a serious candidate at any point. His foreign policy knowledge was shown to be suspect time and time again, his economic policies, while exhibiting well intent, were based in a fantasy land as well. He aligned himself with a ton of dipshit millenial groups who want to silence free expression, and seemed to be banking on people not realizing his striking deficits.
While I do agree with the foreign policy (though not as bad as Clinton's) and potentially siding with the regressive left.
His economic policies have worked fairly well in the nordic countries. Obamacare is incredibly inefficient compared to the single payer system.
The UK has that too. The NHS is the largest and oldest single-payer health system in the world. Public healthcare works.
Yeah, the UK's isnt bad. Pretty good actually.
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