Everyone in US under virtual surveillance, all info stored, no matter the post

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#1 mingmao3046
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Interview with a whitle blower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TuET0kpHoyM

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#2 MakeMeaSammitch
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Tinfoil hat

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#3 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Person of Interest anyone?

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#4 Socialist696
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The government can read and store what ever they want. I'll make sure the next post I put up has a picture of my bare ass with the American Flag tatted into it. The government is more than welcome to kiss my flag anytime.
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#5 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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So?

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#6 hartsickdiscipl
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This doesn't surprise me at all. I do appreciate you posting this though, as it helps to know more details. The fact that there are people who think that this isn't an issue is very disturbing. As the speaker in the video said (paraphrased)- You don't get to decide what's right or wrong in the eyes of the central government. You might think that being surveilled isn't an issue because you're not doing anything wrong, but you don't get to decide that. Anything you do can be used against you, and you wouldnt even know that it was "illegal."

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#7 DroidPhysX
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Man, whoever provides the U.S. government with memory storage whether physical or cloud services is raking in some serious cash.
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#8 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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I feel bad for the person who has to go through tons of messed up porn just to get useful info off someone.

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#9 -Sun_Tzu-
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People probably give out more information about themselves on their own than the government actively collects through surveillance.
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#11 DroidPhysX
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I'm willing to sacrifice liberties in order to preserve national defense.Vuurk
atta boy
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#12 wis3boi
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People probably give out more information about themselves on their own than the government actively collects through surveillance. -Sun_Tzu-

this

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#13 Deadpool-n
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Sure, but the government isn't going to check up on everything. It is impossible with how much everyone uses the computer every day. Also what Sun Tzu said. People like to think they are that different from each other by letting out all their info. I don't get it.
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#14 dramaybaz
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Most of the World is. IF you think your social networks conversations are not recorded somewhere, you are mistaken.
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#15 MakeMeaSammitch
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This doesn't surprise me at all. I do appreciate you posting this though, as it helps to know more details. The fact that there are people who think that this isn't an issue is very disturbing. As the speaker in the video said (paraphrased)- You don't get to decide what's right or wrong in the eyes of the central government. You might think that being surveilled isn't an issue because you're not doing anything wrong, but you don't get to decide that. Anything you do can be used against you, and you wouldnt even know that it was "illegal."

hartsickdiscipl

Is bigfoot behind it?

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#16 Fightingfan
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Guess they listen to my music on the cloud, and looking at my porn favorites.
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#17 Fightingfan
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Does the whistle blower law protect military officials? Like lets say I find documented proof America wants to assassinate Castro, can I warn Castro without going to Guantanamo?
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#18 -RocBoys9489-
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Saw this same thing on the RT twitter, and I agree with what hartsickdiscipl said. Of course mainstream US media would never mention this guy.
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I'm willing to sacrifice liberties in order to preserve national defense.Vuurk
*facepalm*

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Does the whistle blower law protect military officials? Like lets say I find documented proof America wants to assassinate Castro, can I warn Castro without going to Guantanamo?

Probably not. It's pretty important for military plans to be kept confidential.
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#21 jun_aka_pekto
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I doubt the government can track me 24/7. I don't carry anything track-able unless my credit cards emit an electronic signal or if I have a tracking device implanted in my butt somewhere.

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#22 -RocBoys9489-
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I doubt the government can track me 24/7. I don't carry anything track-able unless my credit cards emit an electronic signal or if I have a tracking device implanted in my butt somewhere.

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I'm willing to sacrifice liberties in order to preserve national defense.Vuurk
The social contract in full play.
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I hope they enjoy all the posts about Penis in the After Hours
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#25 Planeforger
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The best part about these conspiracy theories is that, whether they're true or not, the rest of the world gets to laugh at how insane the United States seems to be.

I doubt the government can track me 24/7. I don't carry anything track-able unless my credit cards emit an electronic signal or if I have a tracking device implanted in my butt somewhere.jun_aka_pekto

They'd have the technology to track you, but they wouldn't have the manpower or the funding to track even a tiny fraction of the US population.

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#26 comp_atkins
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they're not building this for nothing....

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

"Given the facilitys scale and the fact that a terabyte of data can now be stored on a flash drive the size of a mans pinky, the potential amount of information that could be housed in Bluffdale is truly staggering. But so is the exponential growth in the amount of intelligence data being produced every day by the eavesdropping sensors of the NSA and other intelligence agencies. As a result of this expanding array of theater airborne and other sensor networks, as a 2007 Department of Defense report puts it, the Pentagon is attempting to expand its worldwide communications network, known as the Global Information Grid, to handle yottabytes (1024 bytes) of data. (A yottabyte is a septillion bytesso large that no one has yet coined a term for the next higher magnitude.)

It needs that capacity because, according to a recent report by Cisco, global Internet traffic will quadruple from 2010 to 2015, reaching 966 exabytes per year. (A million exabytes equal a yottabyte.) In terms of scale, Eric Schmidt, Googles former CEO, once estimated that the total of all human knowledge created from the dawn of man to 2003 totaled 5 exabytes. And the data flow shows no sign of slowing. In 2011 more than 2 billion of the worlds 6.9 billion people were connected to the Internet. By 2015, market research firm IDC estimates, there will be 2.7 billion users. Thus, the NSAs need for a 1-million-square-foot data storehouse. Should the agency ever fill the Utah center with a yottabyte of information, it would be equal to about 500 quintillion (500,000,000,000,000,000,000) pages of text."

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#27 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I doubt the government can track me 24/7. I don't carry anything track-able unless my credit cards emit an electronic signal or if I have a tracking device implanted in my butt somewhere.

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What cellphone? The last time I owned one was four years ago. :lol: I don't even carry my work-issued cellphone with me. I found it pointless because I'm normally either at work (no cellphone required) or at home. Beyond those, I'm probably driving which meant I wouldn't answer my cellphone anyway. Even if I did bring a cellphone with me, it probably would be powered off.

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#28 markop2003
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Well it would be idiotic to waste that huge data centre the NSA is building....
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#29 m0zart
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What cellphone? The last time I owned one was four years ago. :lol: I don't even carry my work-issued cellphone with me. I found it pointless because I'm normally either at work (no cellphone required) or at home. Beyond those, I'm probably driving which meant I wouldn't answer my cellphone anyway. Even if I did bring a cellphone with me, it probably would be powered off.jun_aka_pekto

So you're only a part-time agoraphobic.