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#1 LiquidAjax
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Mass shootings, violent children are on the rise, and it happens to be at a time when video games are some of the top entertainment. Do you think there is a link between the two?
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#2 Dylan_11
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No.
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#3 LiquidAjax
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No.Dylan_11
Why not?
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#4 LJS9502_basic
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Yes.
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#5 LiquidAjax
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Yes.LJS9502_basic
why?
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#6 Inconsistancy
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Mass shootings, violent children are on the rise, and it happens to be at a time when video games are some of the top entertainment. Do you think there is a link between the two?LiquidAjax
No. Go look at some other nation (developed) that plays video games (see 'every other f*cking nation) and see if they have as many shootings (hint: they don't)

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#7 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Mass shootings, violent children are on the rise, and it happens to be at a time when video games are some of the top entertainment. Do you think there is a link between the two?Inconsistancy
No. Go look at some other nation that plays video games (see 'every other f*cking nation) and see if they have as many shootings (hint: they don't)

more people here play games that other nations, so its not a fair comparisons
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#8 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Mass shootings, violent children are on the rise, and it happens to be at a time when video games are some of the top entertainment. Do you think there is a link between the two?Inconsistancy

No. Go look at some other nation (developed) that plays video games (see 'every other f*cking nation) and see if they have as many shootings (hint: they don't)

They do, however, have violence. Some have shootings...

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#9 Dylan_11
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]No.LiquidAjax
Why not?

1. There have been mass shootings before video games were prevalent. 2. Violent media has been around long before video games. 3. One could say that all these mass murderers ate breakfast. Why aren't we attacking breakfast?
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#10 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes.LiquidAjax
why?

I really wasn't being serious....however, within the spectrum of mental illness a violent game can be an influence.....but it's not going to influence general society.
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#11 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Mass shootings, violent children are on the rise, and it happens to be at a time when video games are some of the top entertainment. Do you think there is a link between the two?LJS9502_basic

No. Go look at some other nation (developed) that plays video games (see 'every other f*cking nation) and see if they have as many shootings (hint: they don't)

They do, however, have violence. Some have shootings...

I didn't say they have 'no' murders/violence

Homicide rate:

United States 4.2
South Korea 2.6
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Australia 1
Spain .8
Germany .8
Switzerland .7
Japan .3

I said 'AS MANY'

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#13 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] No. Go look at some other nation (developed) that plays video games (see 'every other f*cking nation) and see if they have as many shootings (hint: they don't)

Inconsistancy

They do, however, have violence. Some have shootings...

I didn't say they have 'no' murders/violence

United Staters 4.2
South Korea 2.6
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Australia 1
Spain .8
Germany .8
Switzerland .7
Japan .3

I said 'AS MANY'

They also have a smaller populations....
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#14 CycleOfViolence
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Not directly, no.

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#15 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Mass shootings, violent children are on the rise, and it happens to be at a time when video games are some of the top entertainment. Do you think there is a link between the two?LiquidAjax
No. Go look at some other nation that plays video games (see 'every other f*cking nation) and see if they have as many shootings (hint: they don't)

more people here play games that other nations, so its not a fair comparisons

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-http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/17/ten-country-comparison-suggests-theres-little-or-no-link-between-video-games-and-gun-murders/

I can't find time spent by nation, unless you're going to cite something to back that up.

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#16 JML897
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] They do, however, have violence. Some have shootings...

LJS9502_basic

I didn't say they have 'no' murders/violence

United Staters 4.2
South Korea 2.6
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Australia 1
Spain .8
Germany .8
Switzerland .7
Japan .3

I said 'AS MANY'

They also have a smaller populations....

I'm pretty sure those numbers account for population.

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#18 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] They do, however, have violence. Some have shootings...

LJS9502_basic

I didn't say they have 'no' murders/violence

United Staters 4.2
South Korea 2.6
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Australia 1
Spain .8
Germany .8
Switzerland .7
Japan .3

I said 'AS MANY'

They also have a smaller populations....

Are you stupid? Why would someone collect a statistic that wasn't balanced? It's per 100 000 people.

And even then, Japan is ~half our population while sitting at .3

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#19 AvatarMan96
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="Dylan_11"]No.Dylan_11
Why not?

3. One could say that all these mass murderers ate breakfast. Why aren't we attacking breakfast?

This is the kind of thing I agree with. Why blame video games alone when literally ANYTHING could have influenced them?

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#20 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

I didn't say they have 'no' murders/violence

United Staters 4.2
South Korea 2.6
France 1.1
Netherlands 1.1
Australia 1
Spain .8
Germany .8
Switzerland .7
Japan .3

I said 'AS MANY'

Inconsistancy

They also have a smaller populations....

Are you stupid? Why would someone collect a statistic that wasn't balanced? It's per 100 000 people.

And even then, Japan is ~half our population while sitting at .3

Since you have not said what your statistic encompasses it's pretty pointless.....
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#21 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] Why not?AvatarMan96

3. One could say that all these mass murderers ate breakfast. Why aren't we attacking breakfast?

This is the kind of thing I agree with. Why blame video games alone when literally ANYTHING could have influenced them?

That argument can be used for guns just as easily.....
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#22 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]They also have a smaller populations....LJS9502_basic

Are you stupid? Why would someone collect a statistic that wasn't balanced? It's per 100 000 people.

And even then, Japan is ~half our population while sitting at .3

Since you have not said what your statistic encompasses it's pretty pointless.....

I edited that post a while ago (1 minute after I posted it), can't you scroll up?
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#23 CycleOfViolence
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] Why not?AvatarMan96

3. One could say that all these mass murderers ate breakfast. Why aren't we attacking breakfast?

This is the kind of thing I agree with. Why blame video games alone when literally ANYTHING could have influenced them?

The common factor for all of these massacres are a human, or humans, killing other humans.

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#24 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Are you stupid? Why would someone collect a statistic that wasn't balanced? It's per 100 000 people.

And even then, Japan is ~half our population while sitting at .3

Inconsistancy
Since you have not said what your statistic encompasses it's pretty pointless.....

I edited that post a while ago (1 minute after I posted it), can't you scroll up?

I'm not in the habit of rereading posts......shouldn't you have made a new post? I mean it's not outside the realm of possibility that someone might read posts over and over.....but I'd wager most people don't.
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#25 Bucked20
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It can influence someone just like tv and music can
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#26 Blue-Sky
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No, but culture does.

United States have had a strong history of violence that have slowly decrease generation by generation.

  • The Revolution
  • Civil War
  • Slavery
  • Jim Crow laws
  • Civil Rights movement
  • Gang wars
  • Hip Hop culture
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#27 LJS9502_basic
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But I did scroll up......homicide is not the only form of violence. I assumed when you mentioned violence it would be more encompassing....I guess not.
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#28 LJS9502_basic
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No, but culture does.

United States have had a strong history of violence that have slowly decrease generation by generation.

  • The Revolution
  • Civil War
  • Slavery
  • Jim Crow laws
  • Civil Rights movement
  • Gang wars
  • Hip Hop culture
Blue-Sky
If you study the history of other countries you can find violence as well. But then....where's the fun in that amirite?
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#29 CycleOfViolence
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No, but culture does.

United States have had a strong history of violence that have slowly decrease generation by generation.

  • The Revolution
  • Civil War
  • Slavery
  • Jim Crow laws
  • Civil Rights movement
  • Gang wars
  • Hip Hop culture

Blue-Sky

At the same time we have developed quicker and more effecient ways of killing people on a grand scale. This extends beyond the United States obviously.

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#30 Kats_RK
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ooh yes,yes.Video games makes me steal candy from babies.

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#31 Dylan_11
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[QUOTE="AvatarMan96"]

[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]3. One could say that all these mass murderers ate breakfast. Why aren't we attacking breakfast?LJS9502_basic

This is the kind of thing I agree with. Why blame video games alone when literally ANYTHING could have influenced them?

That argument can be used for guns just as easily.....

How?
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#33 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

No, but culture does.

United States have had a strong history of violence that have slowly decrease generation by generation.

  • The Revolution
  • Civil War
  • Slavery
  • Jim Crow laws
  • Civil Rights movement
  • Gang wars
  • Hip Hop culture

LJS9502_basic

If you study the history of other countries you can find violence as well. But then....where's the fun in that amirite?

I wasn't just listing various events of violence.

I was listing key sources of aggression that are still present today. Many of them between races. The point is, violence is intrinistic with our culture as opposed to a country like Japan were just having tattoos are frowned upon. So violence in media is a byproduct of our aggressive culture, not the other way around.

U.S.'s aggressive culture encrouages violence in media.

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#34 Zeviander
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Obviously. I've been playing Doom II since it came out when I was 8, and I've gone on numerous mass murdering killing spree.
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#35 DeathCl0ck
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Yeah man, you should see all of the bodies chilling out in my garage. Playing Hitman is a really great way to hone your assassination skills.

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#36 N30F3N1X
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Lag does.

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#37 Wolfetan
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Obviously. I've been playing Doom II since it came out when I was 8, and I've gone on numerous mass murdering killing spree.Zeviander

Yeah man, you should see all of the bodies chilling out in my garage. Playing Hitman is a really great way to hone your assassination skills.

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:lol:

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#39 KiIIyou
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Morely discourage.
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#40 shadowkiller11
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="Dylan_11"]No.Dylan_11
Why not?

1. There have been mass shootings before video games were prevalent. 2. Violent media has been around long before video games. 3. One could say that all these mass murderers ate breakfast. Why aren't we attacking breakfast?

This really. Any argument against video games can be easily shot down for multiple reasons.
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#41 SpartanMSU
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No, but culture does.

United States have had a strong history of violence that have slowly decrease generation by generation.

  • The Revolution
  • Civil War
  • Slavery
  • Jim Crow laws
  • Civil Rights movement
  • Gang wars
  • Hip Hop culture

Blue-Sky

Hahahahahahah...wait, you're serious?

Do seriously think, out of all the nations in history, the U.S. has been the most violent? Hell, let's say all nations since 1776. You still look like an ignorant fool.

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Yeah man, you should see all of the bodies chilling out in my garage. Playing Hitman is a really great way to hone your assassination skills.

DeathCl0ck
You're doing it wrong. You should throw them in the dumpster.
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#43 kingkong0124
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it can be an influence, i guess.

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#44 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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No that's stupid. If they "encouraged" violence then none of them would sell. It's fvcking entertainment just like movies and music are and I'd wager there's MUCH worse stuff in both.

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#45 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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If someone is mentally unstable I think it [ALL forms of violent media] can influence them a bit. But for "normal" people? No, and it's silly to place the blame on it as if it does.

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#46 layton2012
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Yes, but only Super Mario, after playing I can't resist the urge to stop on innocent mushrooms and turtles. To be serious, no I have played violent games for a long time now, and I still sometime have trouble hurting a fly, and I would never own a gun.

The NRA just has to won up and face the fact that video games are not to blame for newtown, and frankly we really should not have to blame anyway besides the shooter, and I personally believe we need some for of gun control, why should anyway need an assault weopen or machine gun, you are not using them to hunt.

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#47 NiKva
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No. I play shooters, platformers, and fighting games all the time. You don't see me stocking up on guns, jumping on innocent bystanders, and street fighting with faux martial art. In fact, I have no guns in my house at all, never felt the reason to own one.
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#48 Allicrombie
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so tired of this topic. someone even started one on the PGD Board.
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#49 LostProphetFLCL
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I saw a study that said they do between the ages of 14 and 16.

There's no reason to think otherwise outside that.

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#50 NiKva
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so tired of this topic. someone even started one on the PGD Board.Allicrombie
Now we just need to start it on every other board and maybe we'll be done asking this.