Do you think the US embassy should aid the blind chinese dissident?

Apparently, there is a blind activist in China that has been under house arrest for quite some time. He fled to the US embassy and stated that his human rights were being violated and that he was being inhumanely treated by China. He eventually elected to return to China, but now wants the US to get him and his family out. Should the US help him or should they avoid meddling in China's affairs? If his human rights are being violated, is it an obligation of other nations to assists or not to meddle?

He returned to China, he can stay there. Not a US problem.

Apparently, there is a blind activist in China that has been under house arrest for quite some time. He fled to the US embassy and stated that his human rights were being violated and that he was being inhumanely treated by China. He eventually elected to return to China, but now wants the US to get him and his family out. Should the US help him or should they avoid meddling in China's affairs? If his human rights are being violated, is it an obligation of other nations to assists or not to meddle?

sonicare

America has a poor human rights record, and the last thing it would want to do is piss off the chinese.

No poll, I am disappoint.:P

This is a tough call that the State Dept. will have to mull over.

It's really not any of your business imo. horgen123

Brrr...that's cold.:P

I think it would look good but could hurt our relations with China.

The last thing we need right now is bad relations to ruin China's economy. That would have a global effect that would be devistating.

In order to seek asylum, he would have to be on US soil. He voluntarily left the embassy, so I guess they have no obligation at this point. However, what would the ethical thing to do, be?

In order to seek asylum, he would have to be on US soil. He voluntarily left the embassy, so I guess they have no obligation at this point. However, what would the ethical thing to do, be?

sonicare

I don't believe there would be much the embassy could do, if the Chinese gov't decides to block our access to him.

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In order to seek asylum, he would have to be on US soil. He voluntarily left the embassy, so I guess they have no obligation at this point. However, what would the ethical thing to do, be?

topsemag55

I don't believe there would be much the embassy could do, if the Chinese gov't decides to block our access to him.

He was safe but he left under his own accord. Now we're supposed to go and cause problems for ourselves in order to undo what he did himself?

Nope, sorry bud.

He was safe but he left under his own accord. Now we're supposed to go and cause problems for ourselves in order to undo what he did himself?

Nope, sorry bud.

Jackc8

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In order to seek asylum, he would have to be on US soil. He voluntarily left the embassy, so I guess they have no obligation at this point. However, what would the ethical thing to do, be?

sonicare

I don't believe there would be much the embassy could do, if the Chinese gov't decides to block our access to him.

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I don't believe there would be much the embassy could do, if the Chinese gov't decides to block our access to him.

Pirate700

But should we raise the issue with them or just do what everyone else does and look the other way?sonicare

Not trying to sound callous, just mentioning other issues.:P

If the Chinese offered a better monetary exchange rate versus the dollar, Geithner and Congress might lean toward that, since both sides of Congress want that, and they could say leave the dissident alone for the better rate.

If the Chinese want to keep this guy bad enough, they might even say they'll buy more US debt. Who knows what they might do?

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[QUOTE="sonicare"] But should we raise the issue with them or just do what everyone else does and look the other way?sonicare

To me, if it doesn't affect us, this issue isn't worth getting into. Let China deal with their own people. China is a great economic ally and this one guy isn't worth making headlines over. The US will probably take a beating in the media regardless though. If we did bring him back in, the US would just get blasted for interfering.

In order to seek asylum, he would have to be on US soil. He voluntarily left the embassy, so I guess they have no obligation at this point. However, what would the ethical thing to do, be?

sonicare

The ethical thing?

Hmm I guess one of the american embassy staff could tell him he was taking him to the embassy, but instead just lead him to a random alley and tell him he is safe.

This would both please the chinese government and give the individual a temporary feeling of safety and security.

Morally its the best option.

Walk the talk.....

Yes I do. He returned to China because he feared for his family's safety. It would be good for the US's public image and perhaps continue the movement of change within the Chinese government in regards to how they treat their citizens.

The less pragmatic, more idealistic part of me wishes we would have. That ship has sailed.

Who cares? Listen we can't save them all and we cant be in everyone's business. The last thing we need to do is start issues with a country, who for the most part we get a long with and do a ton of business with.

I've heard that if he makes it to Florida he can stay.

Who cares? Listen we can't save them all and we cant be in everyone's business. The last thing we need to do is start issues with a country, who for the most part we get a long with and do a ton of business with.

xscrapzx

Should China receive Bradley Manning as a refugee in a similar situation? A consequent person would answer both equally, a hypocrite would answer them differently.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Should China receive Bradley Manning as a refugee in a similar situation? A consequent person would answer both equally, a hypocrite would answer them differently.Toxic-Seahorse

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Should China receive Bradley Manning as a refugee in a similar situation? A consequent person would answer both equally, a hypocrite would answer them differently.kuraimen

aid him whilst denying they know of his whereabouts

Should China receive Bradley Manning as a refugee in a similar situation? A consequent person would answer both equally, a hypocrite would answer them differently.kuraimen

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] For many people including me Manning was speaking against and exposing the awful american government specially their disgusting foreign policy. Is a case of perception. In both cases I side with the citizen who wants to expose a bad government for what they are.kuraimen

Ah another fool, who has no grasp on the current issue at hand. Continue your tirade against big bad America, it's only making you look foolish.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] I'm all for exposing governments, but he obtained the info illegally, he didn't even know what he was downloading. He put the U.S. troops in danger by giving those documents out. The cases are nothing alike and shouldn't be compared. Maybe if Manning just spoke out against the government you could compare them, but that's not the case.c0kemusheen

Ah another fool, who has no grasp on the current issue at hand. Continue your tirade against big bad America, it's only making you look foolish.