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Awful news for all those employees that will now lose their jobs. And yes I do like twinkies.
CommanderShiro
Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
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Awful news for all those employees that will now lose their jobs. And yes I do like twinkies.
WhiteKnight77
Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
I'd imagine if they had been negotiated with.....they'd have gone back.[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]
Awful news for all those employees that will now lose their jobs. And yes I do like twinkies.
WhiteKnight77
Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-hostess-to-go-out-of-buiness-20121116,0,3714808.post
The company was already in trouble, having filed for bankruptcy twice in the last decade, and as recently as January of this year. They were demanding 30% wage and benefit cuts, while top executives recieved pay increased.
Blame it on union workers if you will, but that's not the whole story.
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Awful news for all those employees that will now lose their jobs. And yes I do like twinkies.
LJS9502_basic
Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
I'd imagine if they had been negotiated with.....they'd have gone back. no choice. their fault . cya jobsI'm in the UK and tried one... They were terrible, I am so glad we don't have them over here because the aftertaste was down right disgusting, it wasn't even a sweet aftertaste, just a chemical taste.JohnF111
They tasted a LOT better when I was a kid. But all the stuff tastes like that now, like Little Debbie and Dolly Madison, etc.
Or maybe a kids tastebud it doesn't taste that bad. who knows?
[QUOTE="JohnF111"]I'm in the UK and tried one... They were terrible, I am so glad we don't have them over here because the aftertaste was down right disgusting, it wasn't even a sweet aftertaste, just a chemical taste.flazzle
They tasted a LOT better when I was a kid. But all the stuff tastes like that now, like Little Debbie and Dolly Madison, etc.
Or maybe a kids tastebud it doesn't taste that bad. who knows?
Dolly Madison snacks were made by Hostess Brands and yes, they did taste better when I was a kid, The taste changed probably due to being merged with Continental Bakeries. Even Wonder Bread tasted different when I was a kid and had a different texture even.
No, this is new. They had filed bankruptcy earlier in the year, which didn't necessarily mean the end. Now they just fired all their employees and have started liquidating.Not to squish your Twinkies, but this is old news.
Pirate700
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Awful news for all those employees that will now lose their jobs. And yes I do like twinkies.
jimkabrhel
Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-hostess-to-go-out-of-buiness-20121116,0,3714808.post
The company was already in trouble, having filed for bankruptcy twice in the last decade, and as recently as January of this year. They were demanding 30% wage and benefit cuts, while top executives recieved pay increased.
Blame it on union workers if you will, but that's not the whole story.
Funny that the Teamsters accepted the cuts to continue working while the bakers didn't. Go figure.
I will miss the Cherry Fruit Pies though nowadays, there was less fruit in them than there used to be.
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Awful news for all those employees that will now lose their jobs. And yes I do like twinkies.
WhiteKnight77
Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
Can you honestly say you'd be willing to swallow a 30% cut in pay and benefits because the executives in charge of keeping the company healthy ran it into the ground?
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[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]
Awful news for all those employees that will now lose their jobs. And yes I do like twinkies.
worlock77
Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
Can you honestly say you'd be willing to swallow a 30% cut in pay and benefits because the executives in charge of keeping the company healthy ran it into the ground?
Lets see here.....Take a 30% pay cut and keep working or refuse and lose my job and not get paid? Wow...You are right worlock....This is a reall tough choice....I just don't know. :roll:[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]
Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
worlock77
Can you honestly say you'd be willing to swallow a 30% cut in pay and benefits because the executives in charge of keeping the company healthy ran it into the ground?
Ask yourself why the Teamsters took the offer and not the bakers. The Teamsters at least wanted to keep working. Now no one is gonna be working for Hostess, including the nonunion employees at the outlet bakery stores.
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Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
TheWalkingGhost
Can you honestly say you'd be willing to swallow a 30% cut in pay and benefits because the executives in charge of keeping the company healthy ran it into the ground?
Lets see here.....Take a 30% pay cut and keep working or refuse and lose my job and not get paid? Wow...You are right worlock....This is a reall tough choice....I just don't know. :roll:These workers did not lose their jobs because they went on string, they lost their jobs because the people entrusted with keeping the company financially did a piss poor job of it healthy. I know there's no way in hell you, WhiteKnight or anyone else here would just accept a 30% cut in pay and benefits without protesting it. If anyone say they would they're a goddamn liar.
Lets see here.....Take a 30% pay cut and keep working or refuse and lose my job and not get paid? Wow...You are right worlock....This is a reall tough choice....I just don't know. :roll:[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="worlock77"]
Can you honestly say you'd be willing to swallow a 30% cut in pay and benefits because the executives in charge of keeping the company healthy ran it into the ground?
worlock77
These workers did not lose their jobs because they went on string, they lost their jobs because the people entrusted with keeping the company financially did a piss poor job of it healthy. I know there's no way in hell you, WhiteKnight or anyone else here would just accept a 30% cut in pay and benefits without protesting it. If anyone say they would they're a goddamn liar.
I would protest it, but I would take the cut, if it were to keep me employed and the bakers were warned. As I stated twice, the Teamsters took the deal, the bakers were the ones to toss everything out the window.
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Their own fault. They went on strike and refused to go back. Can't say that I feel sorry for them.
WhiteKnight77
Can you honestly say you'd be willing to swallow a 30% cut in pay and benefits because the executives in charge of keeping the company healthy ran it into the ground?
Ask yourself why the Teamsters took the offer and not the bakers. The Teamsters at least wanted to keep working. Now no one is gonna be working for Hostess, including the nonunion employees at the outlet bakery stores.
Teamsters didn't. The union leaders indicated that they'd be will to consider a cut for current workers as long as existing pensions were left in tact, but to my knowledge no agreement was even ever tentatively reached, let alone voted on by Teamsters members.
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Can you honestly say you'd be willing to swallow a 30% cut in pay and benefits because the executives in charge of keeping the company healthy ran it into the ground?
worlock77
Ask yourself why the Teamsters took the offer and not the bakers. The Teamsters at least wanted to keep working. Now no one is gonna be working for Hostess, including the nonunion employees at the outlet bakery stores.
Teamsters didn't. The union leaders indicated that they'd be will to consider a cut for current workers as long as existing pensions were left in tact, but to my knowledge no agreement was even ever tentatively reached, let alone voted on by Teamsters members.
Actually, the Teamsters did vote on it and accepted it.
In September, membership of one of its major unions, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, voted narrowly to accept a new contract with reduced wages and benefits. The Bakers' union rejected the deal, however, prompting Hostess management to secure permission from a bankruptcy court to force a new concession contract on workers.
The Teamsters union, which represents 6,700 Hostess workers, issued a statement blaming mismanagement by Hostess executives for the company's problems. But it also was critical of the decision of Bakers' union, although it did not identify the union by name.CNNMoney
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