Do you know Holocaust deniers?

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#1 Posted by Ezekiel43 (1590 posts) -

There's a particular gaming forum I frequent that is very right wing and conservative. I wasn't surprised to find deniers there, but it makes me wonder how common it is. I think I need to cut off some of the forums I frequent.

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#2 Edited by mrbojangles25 (44043 posts) -

No, because Holocaust Deniers are fake news, a lie perpetuated by the alt left. I deny that Deniers exist. What is really going on is....aliens.

In all seriousness, I really can't comprehend the ignorance it takes to be a holocaust denier. If I were ever to encounter one in person, I just might actually lose my shit on them. Either that or my head would explode from not being able to accept that such ahuman an animal exists in this world.

I can stomach Trump and Pelosi supporters, racists and bigots, chauvinists and sexists....but I just can't tolerate a Holocaust denier. That's like willingly stupid bigotry. Take your agenda, or the alleged agenda "teh Jews" allegedly have (fun fact: they don't) and just accept that it is historical fact that the Holocaust occurred.

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#3 Edited by phbz (4496 posts) -

I knew one but he now accepts it as truth. He's just an odd dude that will go out of his way to make comments telling a Muslim to "go fvck a goat" but considers himself not a racist. To be honest I like him but am pretty sure something is terribly wrong in his head.

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#4 Posted by npiet1 (2308 posts) -

My father doesn't agree with the numbers of Jews that were executed, he maintains that number is exaugurated. He's not racist though married a black women and thinks that they (Jews) worked had to get where they were.

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#5 Posted by MirkoS77 (14210 posts) -

No, I won’t waste time with people like those. They shouldn’t even be dignified with attention, just ignored. The same with Flat Earthers and Moon landing nuts.

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#6 Posted by Master_Live (19550 posts) -

I do not or at least they haven't revealed to myself, thankfully.

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#7 Posted by thehig1 (7297 posts) -

I don't know any in real life, have seen them on forums and comment sections of vidoes supporting that kind of thing.

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#8 Posted by pook99 (862 posts) -

I don't know that holocaust deniers and right wingers have anything in common at all, don't know they have anything to do with the left either, they are typically just crazy people and trying to connect them to one side of the political aisle is just foolish.

I met a holocause denier once when I was working at an overnight deli, he was completely out of his mind and said that the gas chambers were actually just lice showers. These people are nuts, they are worth engaging in conversation though because they say such totally insane things and you will get a laugh from them.

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#9 Posted by phbz (4496 posts) -

@pook99: I saw one on TV saying that they even had a swimming pool at Auschwitz and that it was a luxury resort.

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#10 Posted by Kadin_Kai (500 posts) -

Nope. But during University I did meet a Japanese guy who claimed that Japan did not invade China and all the atrocities were fake. I guess it’s an equivalent.

In many ways I felt so sorry for this guy. In his heart he knew it was true but he has to (enthusiastically) deny the fact. Gosh I hope he is well.

I think if anyone ever meets a denier, we should not be too harsh on him or her. Imagine the pain that this person goes through when he/she denies it.

I can only imagine the battle in his/her brain to cancel facts and speak fiction as if it were true. It’s like waking up in broad daylight only to keep telling yourself it’s night time.

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#11 Edited by Ezekiel43 (1590 posts) -

@pook99 said:

I don't know that holocaust deniers and right wingers have anything in common at all, don't know they have anything to do with the left either, they are typically just crazy people and trying to connect them to one side of the political aisle is just foolish.

I'm not trying to connect them. But that's how those users are. Maybe better descriptions would be edgelords and the total polar opposites of SJWs. People just keep disappointing me.

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#12 Posted by MirkoS77 (14210 posts) -
@kadin_kai said:

I think if anyone ever meets a denier, we should not be too harsh on him or her. Imagine the pain that this person goes through when he/she denies it.

I can only imagine the battle in his/her brain to cancel facts and speak fiction as if it were true. It’s like waking up in broad daylight only to keep telling yourself it’s night time.

I think the pain we should pay more attention to is that which comes from those who've lost their family in the past to these atrocities who are being incredibly disrespected and their sufferings dismissed by these willful ignoramuses who outright deny they ever took place.

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#13 Posted by Baconstrip78 (1380 posts) -

@ezekiel43: I knew two in my life total. Both conspiracy nuts, and have come to be the template I have in my head for conspiracy theorists since they were both so unbelievably alike.

Both worked mundane low-paying service jobs, both never completed college, both had trouble keeping long term friendships and relationships with the opposite sex together, both had abrasive and pessimistic personalities, and both, despite all of their obvious short-comings and failings in life, had MASSIVE egos.

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#14 Posted by Ovirew (9076 posts) -

I met someone who didn't believe most of American history taught in schools. He didn't believe that colonization of America was as bad towards native americans as it was, or that the settlers were at all in the wrong. Granted, maybe some of the groups of Indians were warring and savage, I have no clue, but there's no denying that the colonists came along and basically took the land from the natives and destroyed their tribes and ways of life. The fact that we're still trying to make up for that injustice to this day should say something about that.

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#15 Posted by Gaming-Planet (19962 posts) -

Nope, don't know any.

I thought it was just a meme.

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#16 Posted by Kadin_Kai (500 posts) -

@MirkoS77: Your are right, attention should be paid to the survivors and their families.

However, the topic of discussion is Holocaust deniers here, which I view as more of a mental health issue.

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#17 Posted by foxhound_fox (97958 posts) -

If I did, they wouldn't want to know me.

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#18 Edited by warmblur (2505 posts) -

@ezekiel43 said:
@pook99 said:

I don't know that holocaust deniers and right wingers have anything in common at all, don't know they have anything to do with the left either, they are typically just crazy people and trying to connect them to one side of the political aisle is just foolish.

I'm not trying to connect them. But that's how those users are. Maybe better descriptions would be edgelords and the total polar opposites of SJWs. People just keep disappointing me.

I never realized how many stupid people are out there until I got into politics.

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#19 Posted by Archangel3371 (28116 posts) -

No I do not know anyone like that, thankfully.

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#20 Posted by sealionact (3950 posts) -

I met an old German lady who lived through the war, and she angrily denied the holocaust happened. She said there was no food, people starved and they burned the dead in the crematoriums.

I didn't want to argue with her....just walked away, kind of sickened.

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#21 Posted by Ezekiel43 (1590 posts) -

@sealionact said:

I met an old German lady who lived through the war, and she angrily denied the holocaust happened. She said there was no food, people starved and they burned the dead in the crematoriums.

That's the BS this forum scum told me.

No intelligent German officer would have blurted out, "Burning the bodies means no one will ever know!" That belief is baldly drooling moronic of people who think it's a motivation to spend a huge amount of war resources "hiding" a genocide. The Jews were interned to work on war-time production and increase the resources for the war, not to decrease those resources. Some died during that term of forced labour and needed to be cremated. Many did not die and "survived" the Holocaust. If all the Jews had vanished, no one would have said, "No bodies were found! Guess they never existed in the first place!" but then... all the Jews did not vanish, and in fact they turned around and had enough manpower to conquer and ethnically cleanse a foreign country just a few years later. Strange.

I laughed out loud at the bold part. It was after I said this about the documentary Shoah, among more gruesome stories:

One account is of how the piled bodies looked after being gassed in the chambers. The stronger, more able-bodied victims on top of the others because they tried to climb above them for air. Bodies being trampled, children's skulls crushed.

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#22 Posted by Stranger_36 (666 posts) -

No one in my life is a Holocaust denier....that I know of anyway.

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#23 Posted by uninspiredcup (33637 posts) -

Never came across one, he it in real life or the Internet.

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#24 Edited by jun_aka_pekto (25253 posts) -

No. But, I've seen climate-change deniers and biology deniers. Right-leaning, left-leaning. They're both science deniers.