Do you fear the U.S government?

From what the NSA is doing to the Patriot Act to our 2nd amendment rights being restricted because of psychotic mad man....do you fear the U.S government? Link

According to the link, the NSA has over stepped it's boundaries and abused it's authority over 1000 times since 2008. This includes listening in on phone conversations, reading emails/letters, monitoring google searches, etc. all on law abiding U.S citizens. Obama has had nothing to say about this and he doesn't care that the NSA is doing this. Do you feel that the U.S is becoming more and more like a police state and is only getting worse?

Not really. It's not really efficient at what it does so I don't see the big concern here.

Too grossly incompetent to do anything. A small part of me fears that as technology advances, it'll marginalize their problems and all the power-mongering they've been doing will eventually be seen in action to the detriment of society. A larger part of me knows that they'd still manage to screw it up somehow.

No, I think they make stupid decisions and do stupid things sometimes but as long as I'm not breaking any laws I see no reason to be afraid. 

Concerned about it?  Yes.  Fearful?  No.

Why live in fear?

to our 2nd amendment rights being restrictedLegitGamer3212

No they're not.

There's nothing to fear from a group that can't even decide what they want for breakfast without arguing.

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]to our 2nd amendment rights being restrictedworlock77

No they're not.

I don't know if fear is the right word. But I am concerned about the direction this country is headed regarding our liberty. The federal government is growing too big and they are chipping away at our liberty slowly.

When I was in elementary school in the mid 80's, they used to have people come visit the classrooms and tell us why Russia is bad. "They spy on their citizens, they listen to their phone calls, they read their mail, etc."

I often wonder what those same people would say now.

Not particularly I do fear a reinstatement of a national draft, but while the government as a whole can be detrimental to economics it's unliklely they will come after me personally unless I bread the law which I don't intend to do. 

When I was in elementary school in the mid 80's, they used to have people come visit the classrooms and tell us why Russia is bad. "They spy on their citizens, they listen to their phone calls, they read their mail, etc."

I often wonder what those same people would say now.

 

 

 

br0kenrabbit

They'd deny that we do exactly what the commies did, likey worse than them too

Also I have seen little to nothing being done that infringes on the second ammendment. Nearly everyone is still allowed to own guns with little to no restrictions on just what those guns can do, how many bullets they can hold, nor how many you are allowed to own.

They'd deny that we do exactly what the commies did, likey worse than them too

wis3boi

That or rationalize it: "things are different now, the enemy is among us."

When I was in elementary school in the mid 80's, they used to have people come visit the classrooms and tell us why Russia is bad. "They spy on their citizens, they listen to their phone calls, they read their mail, etc."

I often wonder what those same people would say now.

 

 

 

br0kenrabbit

They'd have all sorts of neat little reasons why such survellance is necessary and why it's not the same thing as that the communists were doing.

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]to our 2nd amendment rights being restrictedworlock77

No they're not.

really? tell that to a New Yorker,,,, or worse a U.S citizen who lives in NYC

Also I have seen little to nothing being done that infringes on the second ammendment. Nearly everyone is still allowed to own guns with little to no restrictions on just what those guns can do, how many bullets they can hold, nor how many you are allowed to own.

Serraph105

that's not true in many states. For example, in NYC they can deny you a $500 fire arm permit for running a stop sign, 1 arrest, etc. This is the case in many states. 

I fear nothing, for I am The Ultimate Warrior!!! *runs away screaming*

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]to our 2nd amendment rights being restrictedLegitGamer3212

No they're not.

really? tell that to a New Yorker,,,, or worse a U.S citizen who lives in NYC

Regardless of how you feel about the 2nd amendment, i fail to see what the patriot act has anything to do with the 2nd amendment.

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

No they're not.

XaosII

really? tell that to a New Yorker,,,, or worse a U.S citizen who lives in NYC

Regardless of how you feel about the 2nd amendment, i fail to see what the patriot act has anything to do with the 2nd amendment.

well one of the purposes of the 2nd amendment is to prevent government corruption

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

well one of the purposes of the 2nd amendment is to prevent government corruption

LegitGamer3212

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

Also I have seen little to nothing being done that infringes on the second ammendment. Nearly everyone is still allowed to own guns with little to no restrictions on just what those guns can do, how many bullets they can hold, nor how many you are allowed to own.

LegitGamer3212

that's not true in many states. For example, in NYC they can deny you a $500 fire arm permit for running a stop sign, 1 arrest, etc. This is the case in many states. 

specifically the stop sign bit. I'm cool with criminals not getting firearms.

I fear nothing, for I am The Ultimate Warrior!!! *runs away screaming*

The_Gaming_Baby

Well one of the purposes of the 2nd amendment is to prevent government corruption

LegitGamer3212

Ok. That doesn't address the point: What does the Patriot act have to do with the 2nd amendment?

No.

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

really? tell that to a New Yorker,,,, or worse a U.S citizen who lives in NYC

LegitGamer3212

Regardless of how you feel about the 2nd amendment, i fail to see what the patriot act has anything to do with the 2nd amendment.

well one of the purposes of the 2nd amendment is to prevent government corruption

No it isn't.

I fear them ruining the internet.

Fear is a strong word, but I am a little concerned about how much information the government is taking in. I don't think there is manpower to do much with it, beyond looking for terrorist plots. 

I'm not naive enough to think that the government hasn't been watching it's citizens for decades.

Nah. While he doesn't give a f*ck about civilian casualties, bombing my densely populated city would go far even for Barry.MrPraline

Ture, but Dick Cheney would do it and laugh the whole time. Probably would give him his final heart attack from excitement.

Fear no, despise absolutely. They are easily one of the most unlikable governments on the planet right now.jer_1

No, I'm Canadian.foxhound_fox

Five Eyes, yo

[QUOTE="jer_1"]Fear no, despise absolutely. They are easily one of the most unlikable governments on the planet right now.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="jer_1"]Fear no, despise absolutely. They are easily one of the most unlikable governments on the planet right now.foxhound_fox

I'm in Australia, so no.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="jer_1"]Fear no, despise absolutely. They are easily one of the most unlikable governments on the planet right now.Makhaidos

[QUOTE="ad1x2"] Get back to me when the US Government is threatening to execute people for blasphemy like in Pakistan (half of this forum would be on death row).InEMplease

And the other half would support it.

[QUOTE="DavesAlt"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]

And the other half would support it.

InEMplease

It should.

That's an awesome signature.

Concerned about it?  Yes.  Fearful?  No.Alpha_S_