no,but i don't want them anywhere near me tbh. i hate it when sexuality is over expressed.
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Not all trans* folks are sexually expressive. Some are even asexual, just like some non-trans* folks.no,but i don't want them anywhere near me tbh. i hate it when sexuality is over expressed.
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no,but i don't want them anywhere near me tbh. i hate it when sexuality is over expressed.
Not all trans* folks are sexually expressive. Some are even asexual, just like some non-trans* folks. Perhaps they are just saying that the only way you know someone is a transgender is through sexual expression or verbal proclamation. You don't need to know their sexuality to hang out nor religion. All those non important facts do is add possibly annoying elements to the otherwise simple easy going interaction. If I never, ever, intend to fuvk that person then do I really benefit/need to know their sexuality? At some point you end up tip toeing around all these people in your little group that it makes it easier just to not hang out anymore.Perhaps they are just saying that the only way you know someone is a transgender is through sexual expression or verbal proclamation. You don't need to know their sexuality to hang out nor religion. All those non important facts do is add possibly annoying elements to the otherwise simple easy going interaction. If I never, ever, intend to fuvk that person then do I really benefit/need to know their sexuality? CreasianDevaili
A person's gender isn't their sexuality though, and it isn't exactly non-important. It's a key part of their identity, same goes for if you were talking about someone's sexuality.
[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Perhaps they are just saying that the only way you know someone is a transgender is through sexual expression or verbal proclamation. You don't need to know their sexuality to hang out nor religion. All those non important facts do is add possibly annoying elements to the otherwise simple easy going interaction. If I never, ever, intend to fuvk that person then do I really benefit/need to know their sexuality? Pffrbt
A person's gender isn't their sexuality though, and it isn't exactly non-important. It's a key part of their identity, same goes for if you were talking about someone's sexuality.
I am well aware that gender does not equate to a preset sexuality. That was why i said there is a need for sexual expression or verbal proclamation. The same can be said that one's friendship to another does not equate to a preset such as what gender or sexuality that they are. As such, it is not a key part of the identity of the friendship itself. I have never, ever, needed to know someone's gender or sexuality to be their friend. Nor has that information ever been a boon or lack thereof detrimental to the friendship. If I wanted to bang them, then yeah that information is needed of course. But aside from that It is not a factor. Can you list something aside from people wanting to walk around like a nascar with logos and stickers all over them? Edit: Do i really need to go into what I mean by sexual expression?I have never, ever, needed to know someone's gender or sexuality to be their friend.CreasianDevaili
I can't imagine why someone would want to be your friend if you can't be bothered to refer to them as the proper gender or respect their sexuality simply because making either of those clear would upset you for some reason.
[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]I have never, ever, needed to know someone's gender or sexuality to be their friend.Pffrbt
I can't imagine why someone would want to be your friend if you can't be bothered to refer to them as the proper gender or respect their sexuality simply because making either of those clear would upset you for some reason.
I refer to my friends by their name. I have never, ever, referred to one friend i've known since a kid as a heterosexual male. Do you do that? So would you refer to your friend Tom, as the transgender born again christian? That is rather strange and somewhat weird. Should I introduce Stacy as the lesbian arm cutting wiccan? I am asking you how one needs such information in a friendship where neither gender or sexuality is a factor. How one respects another's sexuality when sexuality isn't a part of the friendship. Push aside the petty methods or trying to insult me and at least try and act like you can defend your position.I refer to my friends by their name. I have never, ever, referred to one friend i've known since a kid as a heterosexual male. Do you do that? So would you refer to your friend Tom, as the transgender born again christian? That is rather strange and somewhat weird. Should I introduce Stacy as the lesbian arm cutting wiccan?
Obviously not what I'm talking about. These things come up in and affect conversations. If you're having a conversation of relationships/sex with a guy that isn't attracted to women obviously his sexuality is going to be a factor in thatand will probably come up (unless he's talking to someone like you who's going to get bent out of shape when anyone brings up their sexuality as anything other than straight). It's happened to me and I've never brought up any of these topics on my own, and I just had topretend my waythrough the conversation because I didn't feel comfortable making it clear who I was.I imaginethe same thing could happen to a transgender person.I am asking you how one needs such information in a friendship where neither gender or sexuality is a factor.
Because it is a factor. Obviously someone doesn't want to be treated as male if they identify as female and obviously someone doesn't want to be spoken to as if they're attracted to the opposite sex when they really aren't.
How one respects another's sexuality when sexuality isn't a part of the friendship.CreasianDevaili
The opposite was true for the trans women, iirc.LockedgeSo are you saying that they don't experience phantom limb syndrome? That's understandable. As you mentioned, in SRS they are using the equipment that you already have. So in a sense the penis is still there, but in a different form. This way, the brain still receives a signal from it and doesn't attempt to compensate for a lack of signal like the soldiers in the study you mentioned.
I'm personally still trying to get used to the idea that they are out there. Its still weird for me knowing that a woman could be a man (Or was once a man). What bothers me is the idea that one could be flirting with me and I wouldn't know the difference. I don't disrespect them, but I do still find it pretty weird. My friend has a trans friend and showed me his pictures. She asked me if I thought "She" was cute, I said yeah. Next thing I know, I'm being laughed at: "HAHA! YOU LIKE MEN NORM???". So yeah. That sucks.
I'm personally still trying to get used to the idea that they are out there. Its still weird for me knowing that a woman could be a man (Or was once a man). What bothers me is the idea that one could be flirting with me and I wouldn't know the difference. I don't disrespect them, but I do still find it pretty weird. My friend has a trans friend and showed me his pictures. She asked me if I thought "She" was cute, I said yeah. Next thing I know, I'm being laughed at: "HAHA! YOU LIKE MEN NORM???". So yeah. That sucks.
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Haha you like men:lol: something like that?
[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]I refer to my friends by their name. I have never, ever, referred to one friend i've known since a kid as a heterosexual male. Do you do that? So would you refer to your friend Tom, as the transgender born again christian? That is rather strange and somewhat weird. Should I introduce Stacy as the lesbian arm cutting wiccan?
Obviously not what I'm talking about. These things come up in and affect conversations. If you're having a conversation of relationships/sex with a guy that isn't attracted to women obviously his sexuality is going to be a factor in thatand will probably come up (unless he's talking to someone like you who's going to get bent out of shape when anyone brings up their sexuality as anything other than straight). It's happened to me and I've never brought up any of these topics on my own, and I just had topretend my waythrough the conversation because I didn't feel comfortable making it clear who I was.I imaginethe same thing could happen to a transgender person.
I am asking you how one needs such information in a friendship where neither gender or sexuality is a factor.
Because it is a factor. Obviously someone doesn't want to be treated as male if they identify as female and obviously someone doesn't want to be spoken to as if they're attracted to the opposite sex when they really aren't.
How one respects another's sexuality when sexuality isn't a part of the friendship.
If someone starts a conversation up over what turns them on the most, most chances are i've done left the building and going to do something else.
So you just walk away while someone's talking to you? That's kind of rude.
So no. You would never have me talking to a friend about relationships.
How convenient for you. I've gotten stuck in situations where I couldn't simply walk away though.
I expect my friends to know how to handle themselves and their own lives. I also expect them not to bring drama with them which is what relationship conversations often bring.
It doesn't have to necessarily be a relationship conversation, someone could just bring up their significant otherin a conversation about something else. This would be bringing up their sexuality, which is a big no-no for you.Again, I treat everyone the same.
Why?
Then yeah i want you to be female and possibly bisexual for freaky fun!
You sound like a real catch.What I am asking you is simple and you've only offered childish stuff in return. Not good enough. CreasianDevaili
How is respecting someone's sexuality/gender and being sensitive childish?
I disrespect them because they don't appreciate that they have private parts and want to cut it off...... and not because of their sexual orientationhippiesantaSo if you have a massive growth on your face you should accept it even if there is surgery to correct it?
[QUOTE="Lockedge"]The opposite was true for the trans women, iirc.-Toshy-So are you saying that they don't experience phantom limb syndrome? That's understandable. As you mentioned, in SRS they are using the equipment that you already have. So in a sense the penis is still there, but in a different form. This way, the brain still receives a signal from it and doesn't attempt to compensate for a lack of signal like the soldiers in the study you mentioned.
I can't recall if that was controlled for in the study, tbh. But you're right, that could certainly be part of why (and why I wish there were more studies done to replicate it, under different constraints). All the surgeons do is remove the testes and part of the body of the penis in terms of what's thrown away.The glans and all the skin, and everything is kept.
I just find it goes well with supporting the notion of SRS/GRS as a legitimate surgery, as the lack of phantom limb + significant reduction in dysphoria makes it pretty darn worthwhile, imo.
So if you have a massive growth on your face you should accept it even if there is surgery to correct it? I'm talking about "Normal" bodyparts ..... genitalia is normal ..... disfigured bodyparts is different topic[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]I disrespect them because they don't appreciate that they have private parts and want to cut it off...... and not because of their sexual orientationtoast_burner
So if you have a massive growth on your face you should accept it even if there is surgery to correct it? I'm talking about "Normal" bodyparts ..... genitalia is normal ..... disfigured bodyparts is different topic[QUOTE="toast_burner"]
[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]I disrespect them because they don't appreciate that they have private parts and want to cut it off...... and not because of their sexual orientationhippiesanta
Some babies are born with tails, not disfigured just a genetic throwback to when we had tails. Do you think its ok for doctors to remove them?
I don't think its great when you disrespect alot of people full stop. However the line of "treating them like mental cases", you are right there disrespecting people with a mental illness, and I would argue that thinking you should be the opposite sex to what you are physically is a mental illness.
I treat them just like any person. If the person is nice, I treat him nice. If the person is a prick then I treat him like a prick What I don't want to see is a tranny winking and looking at me like I'm a steak or something. I remember visiting the Philippines one time. While commuting, what I thought was a female hooker squeezed my leg. Later, one of the other passengers said it was a he, not a she.
I don't and think people should be left to conduct their own lives as they see fit as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else directly. With that said, it's kind of gross to me and something I really don't understand nor really want to understand. Nice thing though is that I don't have to understand, and frankly just means I have no business worrying about what they do with their own lives.
Like that Buck Angel monster...damn that is just gross and weird lol. All the same if he/she/whatever is happy more power to them.
Nope...do I get it?..not really...but do I care what others do when it doesn't effect other people?...absolutely not.....have at it...
I don't determine if someone is deserving of respect based on sexual orientation or sexual identity.
if anything I've praised them on their terrific hair and make-up, only ones I've dissed are the dudes who dress in dresses and don't try to look the least bit feminine about it like they have their beards and they walk like men they just make horrible ladieslamprey263
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I have nothing against transgender people. In fact, I feel sorry for them. It's sad that someone would have to go through life with the person they are on the outside not reflecting who they feel they are on the inside.
Unfortunately though, there's not really a great way at the moment to turn a man into a woman or vice versa. The person is still their original gender, just with mutilated genitals and screwed up hormones. Perhaps this will improve in the future with advances in medicine.
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