Do you believe that Islam is a violent religion?

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#1 Tigerman950
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The religion of Islam has been labeled as the most violent of all the religious faiths, promoting terrorism and violent acts against innocent Americans. However, this accusation mainly comes from the select few Muslims who are extremists, and find it necessary to kill anyone who is non-Muslim.

As a practicing Muslim myself, I must say that I truly do not believe that Islam is a violent religion. I believe that the Muslim terrorists are wrong, ignorant, and heretic, and have refused to accept the real Qur'an for what it is.

Please let me know, do you believe that Islam is a violent, terrorist religion?

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#2 chessmaster1989
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Simply put, absolutely not.
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#3 nZiFFLe
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maybe if you're ignorant.

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The religion of Islam has been labeled as the most violent of all the religious faiths, promoting terrorism and violent acts against innocent Americans. However, this accusation mainly comes from the select few Muslims who are extremists, and find it necessary to kill anyone who is non-Muslim.

As a practicing Muslim myself, I must say that I truly do not believe that Islam is a violent religion. I believe that the Muslim terrorists are wrong, ignorant, and heretic, and have refused to accept the real Qur'an for what it is.

Please let me know, do you believe that Islam is a violent, terrorist religion?

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Tigerman950
Not at all... Extremists are retards who haven't read the Quran properly. They have misinterpreted the entire faith, twisting it into an excuse to kill people. The problem is that not enough "good" Muslims speak out against it.
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#5 FFCYAN
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I don't believe ANY religion promotes violence. Just because some evil, twisted ******** kill and detroy in the name of God does not make it so. How else are they going to get suiside bombers and extremist folllowers without something profound tokill for?

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#6 cd_rom
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I don't think it's violent at all. I think it's being used in the wrong way by a select few. Any religion could be subject to that.
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#7 samuraiguns
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I subject all religion to that theory.

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#8 BumFluff122
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I believe that those that follow the ways of the terrorists and the extremists make islam a violent religion while those that follow the ways of true Islam make the religion peaceful just as it is with every religion.

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#9 duxup
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At any point in history you see a lot of people using most every religion to be a jerk or do horrible things. I can't say I know Islam well but I'm not ready to buy into the idea that it is particularly a violent religion.

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#10 acxler8
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The thing is that in some Muslim countries, blindly following a religion is given more priority over learning to think BY ONESELF. They stop questioning whatever is taught to them. And so it's easy for extremist organizations to brainwash normal people, and recruit them as terrorists... I feel sorry for those who undergo such a fate. Even though religion doesn't promote such things, it can give rational thinking a setback, if followed blindly.
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#11 dracula_16
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Of course. When it's publicly critisized for being violent, that person is threatened with more violence. Then there's the indoctrination of suicide bombers and the brain washing on palestinian TV...those sure don't help.

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#12 Tigerman950
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Of course. When it's publicly critisized for being violent, that person is threatened with more violence. Then there's the indoctrination of suicide bombers and the brain washing on palestinian TV...those sure don't help.

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Yes but what does that have to do with the Qur'an in general? Just because there's a few bad Muslims (5-10% of them, in fact) who are terrorists doesn't mean the entire religion is violent. In fact, there are terrorists from all religions.

You should really cite the Qur'an if you truly claim that is indeed a religion that preaches hate and terror.

But before you do that, I think I've got something for you:

"Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. " (6:8 )

This verse is basically saying that Muslims must deal kindly and justly with non-Muslims. Do me a favor and try to disprove that one.

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#13 123625
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I beleive like any beleif system it is dependant on the beleiver, but the religion as it stands as itself does not call for needless violence.
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#14 DJ-Lafleur
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Any religion can be violent, really, if misinterpreted. same thing with islam, it's only dangerous when he terrorists misunderstand the whole point of Islam.

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#15 MindFreeze
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Definitely not Islam itself, but it seems violence is a part of much of the 'Islamic culture'.

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#16 pygmahia5
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no. they get a bad rap though and it isn't fair.
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#17 lilasianwonder
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No. Terrorists just make a bad name for the religion.

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#18 warbmxjohn
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No. Like with most Religions, only fanatical lunatics give otherwise decent people a bad name.

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#20 mrbojangles25
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Nope, I know more than few muslims and they are without a doubt the most peaceful people.

Thats why I find the islam-terrorism association so shocking...how can such a peaceful religion become so twisted?

I mean, they taken the concept of a jihad, which is the equivelent of a muslim-on-muslim coup (i.e. if you have a bad muslim leader, its your duty to overthrow him) and totally twisted it.

Also, they are not supposed to kill in the name of their religion, or conversion. They can attempt to convert, but if a person does not they cant force them, hurt them, or do anything bad.

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#21 warbmxjohn
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Nope, I know more than few muslims and they are without a doubt the most peaceful people.

Thats why I find the islam-terrorism association so shocking...how can such a peaceful religion become so twisted?

I mean, they taken the concept of a jihad, which is the equivelent of a muslim-on-muslim coup (i.e. if you have a bad muslim leader, its your duty to overthrow him) and totally twisted it.

Also, they are not supposed to kill in the name of their religion, or conversion. They can attempt to convert, but if a person does not they cant force them, hurt them, or do anything bad.

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It's sad how easy it is to manipulate and pervert religion.
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#22 MFaraz_Hayat
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Not at all. The reason why Islam gives permission of war is because unlike other religions, Islam is not only concerned with the individual's behaviour. It is also concerned with the behaiour of a State. And hence, rules must be put down for war for it is an important part of ruling a state. In fact the rules of war set down in Islam are indeed extremely good. (I have posted this in another thread):

1. A state must try to first establish peace and avoid war.

2. If it cannot be avoided, the state must not be the initiator of the war. (Fight only when they are coming to fight).

3. In the battlefield, it is permitted to kill opponents since they are coming to kill you.

4. If in battlefield if opponents ask for pardon, they are not to be killed and rather escorted to a place of safety(away from battle)

5. In war, women, children, old people and innocents must not be killed. Trees and Streams may not be destroyed. Animal should not be killed (except for food).

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#23 Papitar
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No.

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#24 Tiefster
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No it's not but due to extremist terrorists and even extremist leaders in countries in the Middle East Islam certainly comes off as violent. Every religion has extremists but not all of them make videos of people being beheaded. Even if you don't look at the terrorist acts some of these countries are terrible to women, downright violent and cruel which not was Islam teaches.

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#25 amirzaim
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I would say no 100 percent because Islam is a peaceful religion. Hey, you should read books about Islam and you can find why Islam is a peaceful religion. I'm also Muslim, man...
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#26 Jekken6
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It's not violent, it just has a bad reputation.

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#27 Deihjan
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I don't think any religion is violent, sure there can be some bloodshed from the past, but I mean, which nation doesn't have blood on their hands? And I don't hate muslims, or christians or any other religion, I only hate the extremists, who take it far too serious and don't read between the lines.
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#28 Tiefster
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I would say no 100 percent because Islam is a peaceful religion. Hey, you should read books about Islam and you can find why Islam is a peaceful religion. I'm also Muslim, man... amirzaim
Well theory doesn't always make it into practice. You can read up about Buddhism all you want but it doesn't change the fact that there were sects of warriors.
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#29 shoot-first
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I don't think it is. Just many extremists are probably on drugs. >_>

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#30 Barknip
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Regardless of whether it is the select few muslims who partake in acts of violence and terrorism, it is the fact that islam exists which allows this to happen and gives these people the justification and belief to do it.

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#31 Silenthps
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Yes
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#32 garaa2007
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I do think its a violent religion and forget about the extemists because every religion's got extremists but islam rules are abit violent even though most muslim countries dont go by them now but i will mention some of them :

1) if you fornicate you will be stoned to death

2) if you steal your hand will be cut

3)homo sexuals are killed

4)once you get in islam you cant change to any other religion or you will be killed

those are some of the actual rules of islam mentioned in quran and are applied anf followed in suadi arabia but most muslim countries dont apply these rules but they are real

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#33 DJ-Lafleur
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Regardless of whether it is the select few muslims who partake in acts of violence and terrorism, it is the fact that islam exists which allows this to happen and gives these people the justification and belief to do it.

Barknip

That could be said about any religion, as well, and any tragedies corresponding to a religion. following your logic, Christianity, Judiasm, Hinduism, ANy religion would be violent. Or if an Xbox 360 fanboy kills someone just to get the last 360 in a store, than playing the 360 would be considered violent...

Basically, you can't judge the whole of something based on the absurdity of a handful of it.

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#34 vgm007
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Every Muslim I've ever known was peaceful and benevolent, so no, I don't stereotype them.
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#35 Barknip
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[QUOTE="Barknip"]

Regardless of whether it is the select few muslims who partake in acts of violence and terrorism, it is the fact that islam exists which allows this to happen and gives these people the justification and belief to do it.

DJ-Lafleur

That could be said about any religion, as well, and any tragedies corresponding to a religion. following your logic, Christianity, Judiasm, Hinduism, ANy religion would be violent. Or if an Xbox 360 fanboy kills someone just to get the last 360 in a store, than playing the 360 would be considered violent...

Basically, you can't judge the whole of something based on the absurdity of a handful of it.

Yes, you are right, there is violence in every religion, and people can say that is wrong and in some ways it is. Most religions themselves do not promote violence, however evil people use religion to justify violence. Religion is power and like any power it can be used as much for evil as it can for good.

Islam just happens to be an easier religion to justify violence for.

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#36 freek666
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What religion isn't violent? And please don't say Buddhism, I hardly consider that a religion but more as a philosophy.

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#37 123625
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What religion isn't violent? And please don't say Buddhism, I hardly consider that a religion but more as a philosophy.

freek666
But it is a religion :/
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#38 loseittoo
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I do think its a violent religion and forget about the extemists because every religion's got extremists but islam rules are abit violent even though most muslim countries dont go by them now but i will mention some of them :

1) if you fornicate you will be stoned to death

2) if you steal your hand will be cut

3)homo sexuals are killed

4)once you get in islam you cant change to any other religion or you will be killed

those are some of the actual rules of islam mentioned in quran and are applied anf followed in suadi arabia but most muslim countries dont apply these rules but they are real

garaa2007

I think no other country practices this law except for Saudi Arabia.

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#39 garaa2007
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[QUOTE="garaa2007"]

I do think its a violent religion and forget about the extemists because every religion's got extremists but islam rules are abit violent even though most muslim countries dont go by them now but i will mention some of them :

1) if you fornicate you will be stoned to death

2) if you steal your hand will be cut

3)homo sexuals are killed

4)once you get in islam you cant change to any other religion or you will be killed

those are some of the actual rules of islam mentioned in quran and are applied anf followed in suadi arabia but most muslim countries dont apply these rules but they are real

loseittoo

I think no other country practices this law except for Saudi Arabia.

right and maybe Iran but the point is these are the actual laws coming from the quran and the prophet Muhamad
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#40 freek666
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

What religion isn't violent? And please don't say Buddhism, I hardly consider that a religion but more as a philosophy.

123625

But it is a religion :/

Eh, I refuse to acknowledge it as a full fledged religion. The likes of the Buddha isn't posed as a messiah or any sort of godly being with powers, just an incarnation and he was wise. If I wanted I could make Nihilism a religion, or anything else like that, but really it isnt. Just a system of beliefs and life practices, much like Buddhism, hence I don't consider it a religion. People can call it a religion, I'm cool with that, but I just don't consider it one.

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#41 loseittoo
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[QUOTE="loseittoo"]

[QUOTE="garaa2007"]

I do think its a violent religion and forget about the extemists because every religion's got extremists but islam rules are abit violent even though most muslim countries dont go by them now but i will mention some of them :

1) if you fornicate you will be stoned to death

2) if you steal your hand will be cut

3)homo sexuals are killed

4)once you get in islam you cant change to any other religion or you will be killed

those are some of the actual rules of islam mentioned in quran and are applied anf followed in suadi arabia but most muslim countries dont apply these rules but they are real

garaa2007

I think no other country practices this law except for Saudi Arabia.

right and maybe Iran but the point is these are the actual laws coming from the quran and the prophet Muhamad

You could actually see an Iranian woman without a headscarf so i think that this type of law is not in their country :P

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#42 KungfuKitten
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Depends, like with the Bible, how literally You take the words.
And since it depends on what You make of it, i think it's the people who are violent, not the religion.

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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="freek666"]

What religion isn't violent? And please don't say Buddhism, I hardly consider that a religion but more as a philosophy.

freek666

But it is a religion :/

Eh, I refuse to acknowledge it as a full fledged religion. The likes of the Buddha isn't posed as a messiah or any sort of godly being with powers, just an incarnation and he was wise. If I wanted I could make Nihilism a religion, or anything else like that, but really it isnt. Just a system of beliefs and life practices, much like Buddhism, hence I don't consider it a religion. People can call it a religion, I'm cool with that, but I just don't consider it one.

Are You telling me You distinguish religion from philosophy depending on how reasonable they are? Because that is something nobody agrees on. They're all just a system of beliefs and life practices.
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#44 Shad0ki11
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Islam is a religion of peace.

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#45 123625
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[Are You telling me You distinguish religion from philosophy depending on how reasonable they are? Because that is something nobody agrees on. They're all just a system of beliefs and life practices.KungfuKitten
Pretty much this freek. Religion is mostly defined as a set system of beleifs and rituals. Budhism has all these things.
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#46 Barknip
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Islam is a religion of peace.

Shad0ki11

Yes, im sure they were shouting that when the killed Theo van Gogh.

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#47 darkhorse286
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No. The word "Islam" actually comes from the arabic for "peace" I think.

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#48 freek666
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][Are You telling me You distinguish religion from philosophy depending on how reasonable they are? Because that is something nobody agrees on. They're all just a system of beliefs and life practices.123625
Pretty much this freek. Religion is mostly defined as a set system of beleifs and rituals. Budhism has all these things.

For me there needs to be a supreme being, a Deity, basically a god. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, etc etc all have gods. Buddhism does not, and I would say that a deity is an almost essential part of religion. Hence my belief that it is more a philosophy than a religion based on philosophy.

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#49 123625
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For me there needs to be a supreme being, a Deity, basically a god. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, etc etc all have gods. Buddhism does not, and I would say that a deity is an almost essential part of religion. Hence my belief that it is more a philosophy than a religion based on philosophy.freek666
Have to completely dissagree, God =/= religion.

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#50 freek666
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[QUOTE="freek666"] For me there needs to be a supreme being, a Deity, basically a god. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, etc etc all have gods. Buddhism does not, and I would say that a deity is an almost essential part of religion. Hence my belief that it is more a philosophy than a religion based on philosophy.123625

Have to completely dissagree, God =/= religion.

I'm cool with that bro.